So Alex Hleb, the guy that was shit for 3 years has nailed his colours to the mast, he calls young player of the year Fabregas, selfish, strange that, Hleb scored 2 against Cesc’s 7 and had 4 assists against Cesc’s 17, which incidentally was a Premiership record, so where is here coming from? I think he worked in the same power station that Eduardo lived near when he got his super powers, only Hleb got too much and it cooked his brain, muppet.
Still no one can slag off the chosen one and stay, so well done Hleb, you will get your wish and Cesc won’t complain, so it leaves the doors open to sign a big player for big money, or does it?
The Hleb story, which was an exclusive here on the Grove last week has proved once again that player power works, don’t forget Wenger signed him, he wasn’t from the ranks and at over £11 million, he didn’t come cheap.
Wenger needs to sign a replacement that won’t take years to bed in, my money is on Barry and shift the team around, he may even go for a winger like SWP or he may get Veloso and put Nasri in, whatever he does he needs to do it now, before pre season.
Arshavin, I could go either way on, at least Wenger can’t say he doesn’t have the money now.
Ramsey is saying he hopes to start against West Brom, so maybe he will feature more in the Hleb rather than the Flamster role, whatever he does, he needs to be positive and move fast, maybe YaYa, who knows, you got it …Arsene does.
Someone needs to explain the finances to the boss though, the stadium cost £450 million, not a billion.
We moved to the Grove to compete but now he says we need £24 mil a year for 17 years, bollocks Arsene, sing another song, this one is getting boring.
Expect some movement today Grovers, I have a feeling…
July 8, 2008 at 8:49 am
1st
July 8, 2008 at 8:50 am
2ndddddddddddddddddd
July 8, 2008 at 8:50 am
Does anyone have Rico’s number!
I FEAR SOMETHING IS WRONG!
Well played Shiver…
This is bigger than Nadal beating Federer!
July 8, 2008 at 8:51 am
Thats twice ive come 1st, i reckon he must be away or something
July 8, 2008 at 8:51 am
good morning people… where is the link about hleb bitching about cesc?
July 8, 2008 at 8:52 am
It’s up!
July 8, 2008 at 8:52 am
Shivers - Rico is a she.
July 8, 2008 at 8:52 am
Link
July 8, 2008 at 8:53 am
ok.. got it…what the fuck is wrong with hleb?
July 8, 2008 at 8:53 am
Shivers, Rico is a lady!! I believe her other half has banned her from this site whilst he is off. Could be wrong but she did make an afternoon appearance yesterday!!
July 8, 2008 at 8:53 am
He knows the only way to get a move is to act up…
July 8, 2008 at 8:54 am
rico is the first lady of the grove!!!
July 8, 2008 at 8:55 am
10th?!!!
Morning all, top post. Is that you again Pedro?
So basically Hleb’s making sure he doesnt have to come back to training by slagging all and sundry off…Good riddance and take the dancind duo of fools withca!!
No one slags of Cesc…NO ONE!!
July 8, 2008 at 8:56 am
Geoff is back today Odub!
July 8, 2008 at 8:57 am
I don’t think Hleb was slating Cesc, it seems he was probably asked a question about why Cesc scores more than him & gave an honest answer. Hleb doesn’t like shooting & Cesc does.
July 8, 2008 at 8:58 am
Yes, Pleb is working the press and trying to force the clubs hand. So he’s a complete knob. But he didn’t actually slag Fab4 off. All he said was that Cesc shoots more. Thats hardly a big statement as Pleb couldn’t shoot into a Durex. And its very likely this is a translation so the word “selfish” could have been mistranscribed.
Come one chaps. Read the quotes not the guff offered the media.
But having said all that, we should still sell him and milk the poor sods who want to buy him. I say we should sell him to Villareal, where he could watch and learn how to lace Bobby’s boots.
July 8, 2008 at 8:58 am
Morning all. I thought Hleb and Cesc were friends? Why would he do this? There is no need for this to push his transfer through, or is there?
July 8, 2008 at 8:59 am
yeah GMR I agree with you there… the press are just going to have a field day about it now!!!
July 8, 2008 at 8:59 am
Either way GMR, I dont think his main objective in that interview was to make it clear that he wants to stay.
July 8, 2008 at 9:00 am
Rico, if your reading this then my apologies
July 8, 2008 at 9:00 am
Does anyone else get as fed up as me that everytime this Barnet friendly comes around there are sod all new players to see??
I know you could mention Ramsey but to me he is a good year or two away from being a first team player & if he is being considered for the first team already then that shows how lacking in depth we are as he was only a squad player at Cardiff!!
July 8, 2008 at 9:01 am
Hleb said: “With scoring opportunities he is even more selfish than I am. Given the chance to shoot he always goes for it, unlike me.”
July 8, 2008 at 9:05 am
The only thing we need to worry about Hleb about is the amount of money we will get for him.
15 mill is a good number.
As for players coming in, I would like Barry, but he is going to cost 18 mill which is silly money. I see Blackburn want 17 mill for Bentley, I presume we have a sell on clause so if he goes to Spurs more money will come in.
When is the first pre season match? Cant be long. Lets hope the squad is ready for the Austrian training camp.
July 8, 2008 at 9:06 am
Odub, totally agree, he was slating Wenger (just not Cesc). I don’t know why the media have tried to make it out like he was slagging Cesc when they are friends, thats needless & petty in my book.
But anyone that attended games last season will know how unhappy Hleb was. At times he got the starting position he wanted but as soon as subs were made you could see the frustration in his face that he was moved out wide. Its easy to start having a go at Hleb which everyone will, but the fact is he was never a winger & Wenger wouldn’t play him in his natural position, so is it really that surprising that he wants to leave??
July 8, 2008 at 9:08 am
WTF. I thought Cesc and Hleb were best mates or something.
But whatever. NOONE slags off Cesc. He can go fuck off now.
Where does it say Ramesay wants to start against West Brom? I cant find any reports.
I doubt Arshavin will join arsenal. To expensive, old and unwilling. By old i mean too old for wenger.
July 8, 2008 at 9:10 am
GMR… what the hell did he do when he was played at his fave position?
its not like he was scoring for fun and making assits anyway!!!
July 8, 2008 at 9:13 am
*assists
July 8, 2008 at 9:13 am
GMR you could however say the same about the likes of Eboue,Diaby, Theo, Kolo, Song and to a lesser degree Dudu who were all played out of position last season.
They’re not asking to leave.
I dont think Hleb was ever going to be an Arsenal legend and stay for a long time, just a feeling I’ve always had.
July 8, 2008 at 9:15 am
Choy, go look when Hleb is at his best its always as a provider to an out & out striker. If Hleb had been played behind Henry the season before last you’d probably have seen a completely different player. He excelled for Stuttgart & for Belarus from the middle, when he was moved out wide in Stuttgart his form disappeared & he had the same moan he is having now.
He has never been a free scoring player & if you thought he was then you need to look at Wenger, after all it was him that signed Hleb.
July 8, 2008 at 9:15 am
Nice & to the point Geoff,
до свидания Hleb!
July 8, 2008 at 9:17 am
Hleb should miss out on Barcelona and be sold to Sunderland.
Now thats a quiet place where a guy with Hlebs philosophical outlook on life should find inner peace. And when you add in the philosphical mentorship of Roy Keane he should achieve total inner contentment.
This would be a well deserved place for Hleb.
What’s your say on this proposal to wenger and PHW on selling Hleb to sunderland?
July 8, 2008 at 9:18 am
GMR -that’s interesting you say that. I saw around 10 games last season and I doidn’t really notice this, but I wasn’t especially looking out for Hleb’s demeanour - all I got from him was the frustration at constantly being hacked down by lumpen defenders of limited ability.
What was his position when he played for Stuttgart ? I’ve really considered if he was supposed to be a central midfielder - he obviusly isn’t a DM - so he’s a creative midfielder is he ? Or maybe he occupies the slot behind the lone striker in a 4-5-1 ?
July 8, 2008 at 9:18 am
Odub, Kolo apart, who didn’t really have a position when he joined why would any of those others you listed have a moan at being played out of position at this current time?? None of them would have the opportunity to leave for a club as big or bigger than Arsenal.
Give it a couple of years & if they really start kicking on (especially Theo) lets see if he has something to say about it then!!
July 8, 2008 at 9:21 am
hleb wasnt attacking fabregas, its an explanation not him having a pop, the barca stuff seems like all re-hashed comments just so the press can write somthing about the arsenal.
arshavin wont happen, he said he only wants to play for barca
July 8, 2008 at 9:21 am
Hleb and Cesc are friends they hang around in a group that used to include Flamoany Rosicky and! WG refers to the group as the four musketeers as you can always see them four hanging around together! I think this story has been taken out of context a lot!
Maqitlarge: He couldn’t shoot into a durex that has made my day already! Lol
July 8, 2008 at 9:23 am
Charybdis, yeah on several occasions last season when subs were made & he was moved, he put his head up towards the sky’s as if to say ‘Why me’. It wasn’t professional at all & the guy is paid a fortune to play football so he shouldn’t really be moaning especially to the press. I can however understand his frustration.
He is more a creative midfielder but I think his best form was always in the front of a diamond formation where he had a completely free role.
July 8, 2008 at 9:23 am
hleb is a luxury player we really can’t afford right now!!
July 8, 2008 at 9:24 am
Really not fussed about all this Hleb nonsense, regardless what he may or may not have meant. As pointed out by Obud he wasn’t exactly stating his love for the club whatevver he said. It just adds to the current mood of frustration. I really don’t care, if he goes I don’t think he’ll be missed.
Who’s this De La Red we’re now being linked with? He any good? Probs just another reandom name been linked with us.
July 8, 2008 at 9:25 am
I wonder how much agent influence there is in this story
July 8, 2008 at 9:27 am
When are people going to stop believing what they read in our gutter press? Hleb wasn’t slagging Cesc off, he was complimenting him!
Cesc and Hleb are good mates….we all think Hleb is acting like a twunt but lets keep things in perspective huh?
He did some good things here and gave me more than a few moments where I just stood and applauded. He lacked the ability to shoot soits time for him to go, but the way some people talk about him…jeez you’d think he was a spud!
July 8, 2008 at 9:28 am
maybe he was …!!
July 8, 2008 at 9:29 am
mornin everybody, is today the day for some action?
July 8, 2008 at 9:31 am
Q of S,
Too true, one thing that I have woken up to, especially with the help of this blog, is that the English Press don’t like The Arsenal. Can someone please explain why these tossers don’t like Englands greatest club?
July 8, 2008 at 9:33 am
Ah yes Pierre, the press are just “knockers” of The Club
July 8, 2008 at 9:33 am
Murdoch owns a stake in the Mancs… and he own a majority of the media!
He is an Aussie, right?
Q of S, he has had one good season out of 3 and now he is disrespecting the manager and the fans and demanding a move.
So what if he did a few good things in a season… that is his job. He didn’t win us any trophies though… so he let us down.
Start acting like world footballer of the year when you have something to show for it.
July 8, 2008 at 9:34 am
This time last year I was praying we’d sell Hleb, like most of us, but to his credit he came on leaps and bounds and had a great season. I was at a point where I was pleased to see his name on the team sheet everytime he played…….
….but it was one good seaon, for me thats not enough time to form an eternal love for the player, which is why his leaving now, for me, is no big deal. Thanks for a good season. Now Go, lets move on. Hleb seems to think he’s suddenly bigger than the club. Lets quit feeding his ego and sell him to anyone who’ll have him and pay a decent packet.
July 8, 2008 at 9:35 am
I’m finding David Bentley’s continued link with Sp*rs quite amusing. When Bentley was at Norwich on loan, I remember he returned to Arsenal due to injury and his loan spell was cut short. I was with a few mates in the Highbury Barn having a beer before a Wednesday night game (can’t for the life of me remember who we were playing), anyone else who was there that night will remember it… Basically Bentley was at the bar with who we imagined is his agent and another bloke, they were having a drink. A few lads in the pub started singing songs at him like “walking in a Bentley wonderland” etc - he was loving it and holding his pint in the air. I had a great video i took on my old mobile of people sing “Bentely give us a song” - to which he raised his glass and sang “We hate Tottenham and we hate Tottenham… we are the Tottenham haters” - until his agent told him to pipe down. I would love to post that clip (if i could find it) to a Sp*rs website just so they can see what their Arsenal reject summer signing really thinks of them!
July 8, 2008 at 9:36 am
Murdoch is now a citizen of the USA. I disown him, especially if he has a stake in manure.
July 8, 2008 at 9:38 am
Pedro, i’m not saying he shouldn’t go - i’d rather have someone a bit more direct.
I just object to people reacting to rehashed old quotes in tim pot rags, like the guy had performed fellatio on Robbie Keane in the centre circle at the Emirates!
July 8, 2008 at 9:38 am
That’s a shame if Hleb is pushing for a move – although if he’s said “I want to go to Barcelona” there’s not much room for ambiguity there. I admit I do like watching him play, the way he dribbled, found space, slotted in a pass and unlocked the massed defences we generally played against. I recall reading a lot of match reports applauding his performances and comparing him to George Best with regard to his balance and dribbling ability. I know it’s understandable to get annoyed by what he is quoted as saying but I do feel there is a degree of press invention and hyperbole in their reporting – people forget it’s not the press’ job to inform people of the facts, their job is to sell papers by ANY means necessary.
July 8, 2008 at 9:40 am
oh dear alex… is that the real reason why you are not banging in the goals?
you are such a sweetheart!
July 8, 2008 at 9:41 am
‘When we get scoring opportunities, Fabregas is much more selfish than me,’ he said. ‘Given a chance to shoot, he always goes for it - unlike me.” yer we noticed that Alex, shooting on site only got Cesc 17 assists, selfish bastard!
July 8, 2008 at 9:43 am
whether or not the press are trying to stir up controversy (as they always tend to do anyway), it’s safe to say Hleb is not trying to endear himself to anyone affiliated with AFC.
We can always tell when there’s a slow news day on the Arsenal front because old interviews are reprinted with particular choice snippets being re highlighted and twisted to look like new quotes.
Either way I doubt many on here and amongst gooners as a whole want the likes of Hleb and Ade playing for our club, considering the way theyve carried on this summer, press or no press! I repeat good riddance!
July 8, 2008 at 9:44 am
I don’t know what you expect people to say?
‘Good luck Hleb, you’ve been marvellous!’
People are still angry about his little ice cream meeting… because of players like Hleb, we have taken 3 steps back this summer.
Will we have it in us to compete again next year? It’s going to be a big ask if three first teamers are allowed to leave…
July 8, 2008 at 9:44 am
Your point being what? pierre?
July 8, 2008 at 9:44 am
Pedro, has there been any advancement with Fantasy Grove?
July 8, 2008 at 9:46 am
Please no one stick up for Hleb, if he was half of what some of you are saying he wouldn’t be leaving, if he was mates with everyone, he wouldn’t be leaving, he’s a cunt and I hope he goes.
One good season, just like the other muppet that was friends with everyone, Flamini.
This is the Arsenal people, they should respect that and the fans that cheer them. They don’t give a rats arse about anyone other than themselves.
Does he think he’ll be played in his favourite spot at Barca? who’s he fucking kidding.
July 8, 2008 at 9:47 am
Gnarley… It all starts in a few weeks… When all the firms start advertising, I’ll get everyone together who wants to play and we’ll go from there!
July 8, 2008 at 9:47 am
If he even gets a move to Barca I cant see him being a regular, really can’t. Lets see how he likes that position.
July 8, 2008 at 9:47 am
G’Day Geoff, where you been?
July 8, 2008 at 9:48 am
Ok Pedro, look forward to it.
July 8, 2008 at 9:51 am
“My view of how I should be playing didn’t coincide with the manager’s”
- Unlike Guardiola i suppose? A manager who would positively encourage a strike rate of a goal a season at the Nou Camp? Hleb is a tool and doesn’t realise how good he has it. He soon will when 100,000 catalans start booing him in his first game as they see his shooting-phobia.
July 8, 2008 at 9:52 am
I’m just sitting here getting my tax sorted out, its taxation time down under, so what better way to get through one of lifes great bores than to have Le Grove. Actually I hope the resulting cheque isn’t too boring
July 8, 2008 at 9:53 am
I have no problem with people wanting to see the back of him Pedro…I don’t just don’t like the “story” being reported uncritically.
If you think it’s more press stirring, why not say so upfront?
Do you really think we’ve taken three steps back?
July 8, 2008 at 9:53 am
The thing is with Hleb - and i have always said it, is that while he is clearly a talented player, he just isnt overly effective.
He has plenty of skill, but his end product is not great, he doesnt score goals, and he doesnt actually get that many assists.
And now,he clearly doesnt want to play for us.
Its a shame Rosicky is made of glass, as IMO he is twice the player Hleb is.
Mind you, to be fair, i dont think he was slagging Cesc off, i think it was actually a bit of a compliment, lost in translation!
So, fingers crossed we get YaYa as part of the deal…..
July 8, 2008 at 9:54 am
Fantasy Grove?
July 8, 2008 at 9:55 am
When people are deciding what’s best for the club we should make sure we don’t allow ourselves to be manipulated opinion-wise by the gutter press.
They want us to panic/cry and celebrate when it suits them - i.e. in tune with the “stories” they print about us. If some of the hacks could see the reaction their “scoops” have on us they’d creaming themselves.
July 8, 2008 at 9:57 am
C1966 what happened to your avatar?
July 8, 2008 at 9:57 am
I am not fussed about the story… Hleb said he was moving last week becuase two top ten clubs in Europe were in for him.
As a fan, I found that way more offensive than anything he said about Cesc.
If we lose Ade, Hleb and Flamini… that is more than 3 steps back. We’ve lost a defensive midfielder who was the replacement for Gilberto. We’ve lost Hleb who, despite being ineffective, worked well with Cesc. We may lose a 30 goal a season striker.
Add to that the fact that we were already a thread bare squad last season…
There are no guarantee’s over Rosicky, RvP and Eduardo staying fit. Gallas had a miracle season last year with injuries… we’re not signing a defender.
I don’t mean to be negative, but you have to look at our squad realistically…
July 8, 2008 at 10:00 am
Gnarley - I don’t know, each time I go to my wordpress dashboard my avatar is there bvut when I go back to the Grove it doesn’t show when I post a comment. I assume I’m doing something wrong between wordpress and logging onto the grove. Any ideas ?
July 8, 2008 at 10:01 am
Morning Gnarley I’ve been out and about mate.
July 8, 2008 at 10:01 am
It’s a new channel we’re launching… haha!
We’re setting up a Le Grove fantasy football league.
At least everyone in it will be a football nut… so it could be interesting!
July 8, 2008 at 10:01 am
arsenal fans love Fabregas, so slating him means hleb is defo leaving, but he wants barca ? does he forget fabregas is also a hero in spain , expect him to b booed, hleb’s career will finish at barca in the same way quaresma’s did
July 8, 2008 at 10:04 am
He didn’t slate Fabregas! FFS!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:06 am
C1966, I opned a wordpress blog by mistake, anyway. When you open up to as if you are going to post something, don’t, just access Le Grove & that should be right.
July 8, 2008 at 10:06 am
Why the fuck am I defending Hleb? The mans a twunt. And he’s off.
But still? I think there should be an iq pre-requisitie to be an Arsenal fan.
July 8, 2008 at 10:06 am
morning all.officially hleb can now fuck off to some quiet club in the fucking himalayas.But y would he slate cesc?By the way for you guyz living in england.is the sun a reliable source of info or are they just spreading shit they dont know?
July 8, 2008 at 10:07 am
The sun is very very reliable.
July 8, 2008 at 10:08 am
QoS… you seem very defensive of a player who has taken a big dump on a club that has looked after him well?
I think you are missing the point… Hleb was dead to the fans before today anyway… Most fans will take any excuse to slag him off.
Point is… he wants out and he has disrespected the club.
Don’t defend him…!
July 8, 2008 at 10:10 am
i say if hleb goes we get either ashrvin or d.silva as a direct replacement.Nasri ? cant say much about him
July 8, 2008 at 10:11 am
IQ prerequisite for being an Arsenal fan! Wow!
July 8, 2008 at 10:12 am
I haven’t even bothered reading the link - I’m not saying he didn’t slag of Cesc but I can’t believe anything reported these days especially since the NOTW comments attributed to Wenger which I just can’t believe he actually said.
Can’t understand why you think he’ll buy Barry for the money L’pool have been asked to stump up. Surely you know AW doesn’t buy players who are grossly overpriced solely because they are English (not since Franny anyway)
I think Nasri is Hleb’s replacement no?
July 8, 2008 at 10:13 am
QOS were you there then? every newspaper has picked it up, every blog site has and Sky sports news have, you sound like Neville Chamberlain did when he came back from Germany.
July 8, 2008 at 10:14 am
Gnarley - I’m not quite sure what you mean. When I comment I shouldn’t click the “submit comment” button ? Or should I be in WordPress ? Sorry if I’m a bit slow - I’m not a natural blogger.
July 8, 2008 at 10:15 am
Twunt! I like that word. QoS, my initial knee jerk reaction was Pleb is a dickhead for saying this, but of course he didn’t really say / mean it, same as all that “we are a selling club” bullshit attributed to Wenger the other day, its about time we had some real news to talk about. surely things will move on this week, we don’t want the shit stirrers back among the rest of the squad and doesnt pre season start this friday?
July 8, 2008 at 10:15 am
Not of Hleb Pedro, I don’t care if he goes, I personally think the biggest reason that we aren’t supreme rulers of the universe is because he wasn’t up to replacing superbob and Freddie.
I always felt like he tried - he just wasn’t quite good enough.
But I will defend anyone if the sheep just start laying the hate on him because of something they read in a crappy red top.
July 8, 2008 at 10:16 am
KENYAN GOONER - I AGREE HLEB SHOULD NOW FUCK OFF……
FUCK
Fuck can be a:
Pronoun; that Fucking cat
Noun; The Fucker….
Adjective; That Stupid Fucker
Verb; John Fucked Mary
adverb;Mary is Fucking Fine
So Say “What The Fucks up!!!!!
When Famous People said Fuck
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mayor of Hiroshima; what the Fuck was that
David Letterman; Get the Fuck off my Show
Gen. Custer; Where the fuck did those indians come from?
Issac Newton; that Fucking apple hurt
David Keresh;Were fucked
Bill Clinton; I fucked her. …Yes i Fucking inhailed
John Bobbit, where the fuck did it go!… FUCK FUCK FUCK
Richard Nixon; Burn those fucking tapes
Ronald Reagan; Fuck the Russians
The South; We never fucking lost
the North; We beat the fuck out of them
Hugh Heffner; Ive fucked the best
Challenger crew; Dont press that fucking button..BOOOM
Karl Marx; Boy was i fucking wrong
Osama Bin Ladin: I really fucked up this tme
Saddam Hossain: I should have shut my fucking mouth
July 8, 2008 at 10:18 am
Mornin all.
I’m with you on this GMR, AW buys these players because (presumably) they excel in the team they are currently playing for, so why buy so many players and play them outta position??? He has an abundance of CM’s, but plays them out wide, Rosicky, Diaby, Hleb etc etc………
July 8, 2008 at 10:18 am
MorrowsBrokenArm -you’re taking the piss yeah? About 5% of The Sun’s stories end up being true & that’s being generous!!!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:20 am
I’m keeping the level above insults to specific people Geoff, please pay me the same courtesy.
I disagree with the take on the Hleb story. That’s it. Last time I checked I’m entitled to an opinion. And I always thought the Grove encouraged discussion and debate.
It’s pretty classless to compare a Jewish women with a Nazi appeaser.
July 8, 2008 at 10:21 am
RG;
No worries mate, just having the crack,
July 8, 2008 at 10:22 am
If Hleb’s going to Barca for Yaya - and Bert’s being offloaded to Greece for his playing prospects, 3 year deal, payback for his service to AW and to enable a grab for the kid there we want and to make space for Yaya……………………come on! Bye bye Hleb! What’s the hold up? Nasri’s holiday?
July 8, 2008 at 10:22 am
GILBERTO OFF !!!!!
Arsenal seem to have taken the decision to finally go ahead with transferring one of their most experienced and loyal players.
Gilberto Silva has been, since his transfer from Atlético Mineiro right after he helped his country to victory in the World Cup of 2002, one of Arsene Wenger’s best buys.
But alas time has been catching up with him (he is now 32) managing only 17 appearances during last season after losing his place to the younger Flamini who has since moved on to what he considers the greener pastures of AC Milan.
Arsene Wenger appears however to have decided that Gilberto will not be the one to replace the gap left by Flamini as Arsenal have already send a fax to Greek club Panathinaikos inviting them to London for face to face talks about Gilberto’s transfer.
The meeting has already been set for next Wednesday and Panathinaikos are very keen to conclude what for them will be a major scoop.
It appears the player has already been talking terms with the Greek club and all that remains is to satisfy Arsenal’s demands.
Panathinaikos are offering the player £2m per year in a three year contract which is what the player has demanded. The third year will come into force if Gilberto plays in 50% of the games the year before.
The player’s agent Nicola Arkouri has indicated to the Greek press that his client will consider the offer seriously.
Panathinaikos which now has former Chelsea assistant boss Henk Ten Cate as their head coach are reportedly ready to start the bidding at £1.5m but they may have to increase that if they are to land their man.
July 8, 2008 at 10:24 am
Anyone else started to get the feeling we’re about to see a whole bunch of new signings?
I bloody hope so!
July 8, 2008 at 10:25 am
I can’t be dealing with these subliminal insults and name calling every day!! We had the same shit yesterday and that was bad enough!
As far as I can remember we’re all Arsenal fans arent we?!
July 8, 2008 at 10:25 am
RG… speculative stories, maybe… but you are not allowed to quote unless they are true.
We all love to take opposition player quotes at face value… but as soon as there is an Arsene quote that doesn’t agree with peoples perception of Arsene, it is made up?
So let’s just say Arsene didn’t make those comments.
Where is the denial?
What use is a denial in 6 days?
So if he made them… they are true. If he didn’t make them, we are once again lacking any sort of PR brain.
The NoTW didn’t claim those quotes… they were the AFP’s.
What is the point in having your own club site and not using it, like every other club does… to deny stories or admit them.
July 8, 2008 at 10:26 am
C1966, For a moment there I thought you said not a natural blonde.
Anyway, I think the main thing is to be open in WordPress, then access Le Grove.
I think for your avatar to appear when you comment the “Leave a Reply” box should show a one rectangular box, with “Logged in as” you C1966.
It might take some frigging around, it did for me, coz I’m probably as savy as you when it comes to computers. Hope that helps
July 8, 2008 at 10:27 am
Keita going from Sevilla to Barca means they got him, Marquez, and Yaya, I’ve got a feeling one#s def leaving….Which one though?
July 8, 2008 at 10:28 am
Odub is right… can we keep it on football.
This is a place for discussion… not having digs at each other…
QoS, I agree… too much noise not to be a busy week!
July 8, 2008 at 10:30 am
arsenalkenya nice one of the “fuck”.What is wrong wit the media.lol.Why isnt anyone linking eboue with some club?
July 8, 2008 at 10:30 am
I’ve had the privilege of working with some top models in my work Pedro, a couple of whom are always in the papers…they take the approach that it isn’t worth employing people to deny everything written about them that’s untrue - maybe Arsenal are employing the same approach?
I know from experience that Newspapers are more than happy to claim direct quotes when no such quote exists.
July 8, 2008 at 10:31 am
The alton towers rollercoaster that is life as a gooner rumbles on up then down.
Why just not get rid of Hleb and Ade both are ungrateful c*nts why not cash in on them instaed of doubling Ades wages and opening the flood gates to all.
Like Gallas needs any excuse to throw his toys out his pram!!!!
If it was me in charge id sell :
Ade - 1 good season
Hleb - likes ice cream
Eboue - headless chicken
Gallas - Mardy arse git
Keep at all cost :
Clichy - best left back in the premiership
Sanga - looks at home loves our club
Cesc - would be my captain fantastic
RVP - best striker we have when fit
Theo - would be world beater
July 8, 2008 at 10:34 am
Queen of Suburbia - i know what you mean…. something is going to happen… I can feel it.
It seems like it has been bad news after bad…. what we deserve is a photocall announced for this afternoon, with tomorrows back pages taken up by a picture of a grinning wenger with 5 players all holding up their shirts proudly showing their names and numbers. Hopefully players that we have heard of, all over the age of 14.
Too much to ask?
July 8, 2008 at 10:37 am
AFC53 Great minds and all that, well almost!
I posted the same list yesterday, my keep list was the same, but had Hoyte & Senderos instead of Gallas on my offski list!
I hope you’re all right and something of huge proportions happens on the transfer front, although I think all we’ll get is Nazzzzzzzzzri!
July 8, 2008 at 10:37 am
Careful what you ask for! Those 5 could be Charlie George, Liam Brady………..
July 8, 2008 at 10:37 am
QofS - Thats last statement about comparisons of Jews to Nazzi’s was a bit much wasn’t it ?!!!
I don’t think Geoff was even attacking you, he didn’t call you names and was just just using a bit of satire to rib you………. Geez, lady, chill. You had your opinion, many have different opinions, we all occassionally slate each/explode (I did yetsreday, but we are lovers now !!!) other as we are all passionate about our Arsenal views, but surely adding 1 and 1 together and coming up with 11 is looking at things the wrong way, especially with taht statement ?!
Anyway, Hleb can Feck off, I REALLY do not want Ade to stay, where is the sell Eboue badwagon gone and as usual the over paid, can’t be arsed to work PR Adviser that Arsenal employ could not be botrhered to come to work again today !
MUSHROOMS !!!!!!!!!!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:37 am
So how do I get to le grove via wordpress, I’ve just been typing in the le-grove website address ? I must be at the wrong place ‘cos it does show me as logged in the “name” and “mail” fields yet my avatar has refused to show for ages now.
July 8, 2008 at 10:38 am
QoS… with models and celebs it is a bit different. Any publicity is good publicity type of thing…
With football, you have millions of fans depending on the board to run a steady ship.
Not responding to negative reports is detrimental to the clubs image amongst the fans and the players. That is why ManU, Madrid, Barca, Milan will all issue denials immediately.
If you hear a report of Sneijder leaving for ManU… the next day a denial is issued… The same goes for ManU and Ronaldo… Milan and Kaka…
It is not often footballers or managers have to come out and deny saying something that has been quoted.
July 8, 2008 at 10:38 am
QOS I too work with models and sports stars and they are often very shallow and narcissic, but they are all fine when that same red top is blowing smoke up their arses, or showing a picture of them going to a premier, live by the sword, die by the sword.
July 8, 2008 at 10:38 am
Hell at this point - i’d take 3 new signings!
One thing that was interesting that i haven’t seen anyone else pick up was Rambo was talking about being impressed with Wengers plans for the team…. wonder what AW told him?
July 8, 2008 at 10:39 am
Chary, as long as you stay in the same window… you shouldn’t get logged out?
July 8, 2008 at 10:41 am
Chary go to your dashboard and click on previous posts you’ve commented on on Le Grove. That’s what I do, and the Hulk appears each time.
July 8, 2008 at 10:41 am
QoS - Wenger told Ramsey he will not sign any good players, he will get loads of games until he gets good and then at any time he will be allowed to DEMAND a transfer to his dream club whilst in the middle of a new contract……. the usual stuff really.
July 8, 2008 at 10:42 am
I do show as logged in but no avatar - weird, but a persistent and vaguely annoying problem.
July 8, 2008 at 10:42 am
The once angry but now passive Hulk !!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:43 am
As long as i dont get called a sanctimonious pedant again Pedro!
JOKE!
I still feel that Hleb’s comments about Fab were lost in translation - i actually think he was complimenting him, and suggesting he could improve his own game by being more selfish in shooting opportunities himself.
He will have plenty of time to think about it as he is getting splinters in his back side in Barcelona.
July 8, 2008 at 10:43 am
Highgate Gooner, amen to that, and 2 of the new players holding shirt no’s 13 and 25 would be the icing on the cake!
July 8, 2008 at 10:44 am
Pedro, The Glazers own Man Utd outright, Murdoch has no holding in them at all anymore.
QofS, an individual model cannot be compared to a big business. I understand your point but for a model no publicity (whether true or not) is bad publicity. You only have to look at the likes of Kate Moss & Naomi Campbell to see that, nothing they do no matter how bad affects them for any length of time & infact after stories have broken they end up getting better deals than the ever had before. For Arsenal its a lot different, they are reliant on fans whether they are true fans or gloryhunters & unfortunately how they are perceived in the press is vitally important to certain sponsors etc.
July 8, 2008 at 10:44 am
I suppose that to Hleb anyone who regularly scores is selfish, meaning he definitely has the wrong idea about football. When you’re in a scoring position it is your duty to take a chance, it is not a selfless act to pass the ball, making a martyr out of yourself is selfish.
Instead of trying harder to finish the job off you prefered to pass the ball to safe face just in case your effort was unsuccessful. Now that is selfish.
July 8, 2008 at 10:44 am
CAN WE PLEASE FUCKING SIGN SOMEONE…..
July 8, 2008 at 10:45 am
Pedro, apologies my post has echoed yours but the length of time it takes me to type another 20 posts appear!! ha ha
July 8, 2008 at 10:45 am
Bud - I didn’t introduce that particular topic -I made my point, no need to bring it up again. Ta.
Re: the point about models, I wasn’t neccesarily agreeing with the strategy, just trying to introduce a possible reason why Arsenal don’t immediately issue denials. I’d hoped that Arsenal TV would give us better access and provide a forum to rebutt the red top crap.
I’d love to see a show where the clubs PR officer would sit down discussing the Arsenal news in that days paper and say “Wenger didn’t say that” or “Yes Alex really loves the ice cream” but they haven’t. Which frankly is why I should be running the club
July 8, 2008 at 10:45 am
Matt - Don’t push it, I know you only like arguing with me because the making up is so fine !!!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:46 am
It is happy hour all day at Le Grove…
A big old gooner love in!
Happy thoughts everyone!
Well, in the interview I transcribed without google translation last week… Hleb said Cesc was his idol!
So make of today’s quotes what you will.
I don’t personally care… he is still a greedy cunt ferret whatever he says…
July 8, 2008 at 10:46 am
haha… bud, that is rank!
July 8, 2008 at 10:47 am
Thats incredible!!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:47 am
Patrick 7 - to be honest I would kill for Liam Brady and Charlie George to be re-signing for the Arsenal!maybe if the other three is made up of Adams, Wright and Jennings we could be on to something!
Jennings
Clichy
Adams
Toure
Sagna
George
Cesc
Ramsey
Brady
Van Persie
Wright
July 8, 2008 at 10:47 am
And I am trying to stay that way Bud for another 2 weeks, at least by then we’ll know if there are any new signings coming.
I’m still perplexed by AW’s admission that he doesnt need defenders, or was that paper talk as well?
July 8, 2008 at 10:48 am
But you did comment, so if I wish to comment I will and I did….. Ta !
The PR officer died 3 years ago, but is still recieving full salary and benefits……. it’s the only answer to his/her lack of workload
July 8, 2008 at 10:49 am
QOS I really don’t care if you”re Jewish or not, why do people either use the race or religion card, you were being compared to a British prime minister, not a Nazi sympathisor.
He said that Hitler wasn’t planning to invade anyone, which was burying his head in the sand, just like anyone who believes that Hleb wants to say.
July 8, 2008 at 10:51 am
I don’t like it Odub…. its like you have been sucked in by a cult or something…… the spirit and sharp tongued acidity has been sucked out of you, it hurts me to see it !!!!!!!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:51 am
Pedro/Odub - I’ve tried that. No luck, it could be ‘cos I log in from 2 different places but I think my disapperaring avatar will just be one of those little unsolved mysteries.
July 8, 2008 at 10:53 am
I guess I’m mellowing with age Bud….Yeah right!! I’m waiting for preseason and all hell will be let lose again!!
I can’t have Ethan taking my chief ranter title for much longer!
BREAKING NEWS on Arse.,com…….. New website coming soon!!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:54 am
Not to you though! I was compared to a Nazi Appeaser. I explained why I found it offensive. That should be the end of it.
I’m asking politely Bud, please do not raise it again, I find it offensive. Thanks.
July 8, 2008 at 10:54 am
+1 Geoff, there was no mention of Chamberlain being compared to someone based on their nationality, please do not use your race, religion or gender for the purpose of gaining special deference.
July 8, 2008 at 10:54 am
HG - yes, or thereabouts, but I don’t think their legs would carry them any more at the current pace of the EPL!
July 8, 2008 at 10:55 am
ad rather new player comming soon.
July 8, 2008 at 10:55 am
LOL Bud…. i Can feel the love…..
July 8, 2008 at 10:55 am
Cool….. will be live SOON……… fucking piss up, brewery and Cant come into mind !!!
They still haven’t posted 9 yet in their list, they are still on Pat Jenning No 10 (how?)….. good keeper, but a Spud at heart……….. disgusting !!!!!!!
July 8, 2008 at 10:57 am
You introduced it Geoff, not me.
I don’t see why people want to talk about that, i’d rather talk about Arsenal.
July 8, 2008 at 10:59 am
Why don’t you go somewhere else, I’m getting tired of having to explain myself.
July 8, 2008 at 11:00 am
Exactly QoS… ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL!
So Barca have signed:
Alves
Keita
+ Ade
+ Hleb
They’ve not done too badly?
Does Laporta spend his own cash?
July 8, 2008 at 11:00 am
Where do you get off QoS……… do you know my religion and background, No…. I could tell everyone about my Nan I never met and a POW camp, but why, that was generations ago, never forgotten, but it does have no bearing on the world I live in today. This is an Arsenal Blogsite, not a place for me to look for religious and poitical belligerence that does not exist !
July 8, 2008 at 11:01 am
Was that directed at me Geoff? I put a +1 supporting your view.
July 8, 2008 at 11:01 am
charybdis,
i have that sometimes log out of wordpress and log back in
July 8, 2008 at 11:02 am
Apart from QofS who else has upset you Geoff??
At least we all know where the transfer fund has gone this season, it went to Rippleffect so they could build us a new website which will be mainly blck text on a white background, but please be reassured there will be some ‘Arsenal red’ involved!! Well thats lucky as we seem to be turning into the spuds with all this white everywhere!!
July 8, 2008 at 11:04 am
Finest, it was a mistype… It wasn’t directed at you!
July 8, 2008 at 11:04 am
No one else it was a typo!
July 8, 2008 at 11:05 am
can anyone actual get a link in newsnow to work,
i am intertested to see what arsenal insider are saying about eth actual hleb interview
http://www.arsenalinsider.co.uk/player-comments/breaking-news-that-hleb-interview-in-fullthe-proof-that-tabloids-lie/
July 8, 2008 at 11:06 am
His site is down Chris…
July 8, 2008 at 11:06 am
conspiracy….;-)
July 8, 2008 at 11:06 am
So, at a time when there is little contemporary football news, do you think CG9/10/11 will get into one of the remaining 9 spots of the Top 50, anyone??
July 8, 2008 at 11:08 am
……or has the former Popstar of Highbury been forgotten by the Wnger invasion of stars?
July 8, 2008 at 11:08 am
nelson vivas, i told you before gnarley…its gonna happen!
July 8, 2008 at 11:08 am
*Wenger
July 8, 2008 at 11:09 am
If the spuds manage to sell Chimbonda to Valencia for 8 million you really have to give the person that does their negotiations some credit. No wonder they keep splashing cash when they make so much money selling rubbish like Pascal.
I thought Valencia were broke??
July 8, 2008 at 11:10 am
CG must be up there with, DB10, TH14, PV04, Pires, Adams, Seaman, Hleb, Adebayor
July 8, 2008 at 11:11 am
On Gilberto… i think it’s better to keep him in the squad until someone else adapts to the DM role… i mean he’s got so much experience and is a great role model for the younger players… and at 32 should have a couple more years in him. He just needs a run of games and i’m certain he can regain his form.
July 8, 2008 at 11:12 am
Valencia are broke, but they are getting £20 million off Arsenal for Villa !!!!!!
July 8, 2008 at 11:14 am
Back to football, I thought I was going to be expelled from le-grove for a second….
hleb’s behaviour has epitomised selfishness, from indulging in a midnight ice cream session before playing at the San Siro to intentionally slapping an opposition player in the face to get himself sent off to prove he was no longer willing to play for the team, he has no right to call Cesc Fabregas selfish.
July 8, 2008 at 11:14 am
I fecking love dreaming !!!!!!!!!
July 8, 2008 at 11:15 am
Well said finest, people are a little precious at times. Are they really offended, or are they just trying to close of an argument using a false moral high ground?
No one group has the right to feel more aggrieved by the second world war than any other group. A life is a life and plenty were tragically lost from all walks of life… plus, why the hell is this getting caught up in an otherwise interesting discussion?
I am not interested in Hleb, he has been off since the end of last year. I would be very surprised if Barca are in for him, he doesn’t have what it takes to succeed there. How is he going to feel about linking up with Thierry again?
Give me a decent player in return though, and that may make me feel better about the whole sage. How about the Mexican lad?
July 8, 2008 at 11:16 am
I think Gilberto should stay, experienced cover at DM and CB, right where we need it the most, problem is he’s sure to only get a 1 yr offer from Wenger, whereas he’s looking at 3 yrs from Panathinaikos (spelling?)
July 8, 2008 at 11:18 am
Here Here Jason……….. if only I could have put it that way, I would be Prime Minister !!!
July 8, 2008 at 11:18 am
I just hate race, religion, colour creed and anything along those lines being mentioned on a forum that draws no attention to such things!
I believe my first day on here coincided with some twat coming on and slating our African players, said person was dealt with sharpish by Geoff & Pedro!
That’s the kinda place Le Grove with, and we’d very much like to keep it that way!
Let’s move on please.
So who do we think Barca will be flogging? They’re bound to let another 2/3 go, would we be interested?
July 8, 2008 at 11:20 am
***kinda place Le Grove is…
July 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
Well I’ve already worked out the new excuse for why Nasri hasn’t signed when the 10 days are up that his agent specified!!
The next excuse will be that Arsenal want to announce it on their new website & not the old one!! Who wants to take a bet on that???
July 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
is it true we got cesc as part of the GVB deal, odub
July 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
Exactly… this is a football site, for Gooners!
It’s more fun.
Barca will let Marquez go, Eto’o, Yaya and Ronnie…
Who would you have in a swap for Hleb?
July 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
Finest I’m sorry you thought it was aimed at you, it really wasn’t, I was talking about both her personalities, me I’m just an Arsenal fan, no one knows my religion or my colour because it doesn’t matter, I had all this shit at the weekend when I dared to question Martins age.
You are a valued member of the Le Grove and I hope you continue to comment.
Actually Odub knows my colour because we shared a Peroni, different bottles of course, but only because I’m a Peroni monster!
July 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
Pedro, are you watching “Home & Away” @ the moment? They don’t play proper footy up there@ Palmy, its bum sniffing country, Thugby league,
July 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
GMR, your bets start at 5 grand, ill pass!
July 8, 2008 at 11:22 am
No Chris….. We stole him fair and square. Barca got the major hump with us !!!!
July 8, 2008 at 11:22 am
sally dies…..
July 8, 2008 at 11:22 am
Bud, Prime Minister, Don’t mention Chambelain.
July 8, 2008 at 11:23 am
Sorry this may be a bit offtrack but one more point about Gilberto and senior players at Arsenal in general… it’s easy to slay Hleb for wanting to leave, but fact is AW dosn’t really give players the chance to finish their careers at Arsenal, even if they’ve expressed the desire to do so. Typical example is Pires, who at 32 was let go on a free transfer. One of the best midfielders in the world not given a 2 year contract at 32! Why, was he that old. I mean surely a compromise could have been made to keep a classy player like him. Anyways, the point is Arsenal is not very loyal to it’s players. Hate to say it, but M.U. have been better to their seniour players than us.