So Alex Hleb, the guy that was shit for 3 years has nailed his colours to the mast, he calls young player of the year Fabregas, selfish, strange that, Hleb scored 2 against Cesc’s 7 and had 4 assists against Cesc’s 17, which incidentally was a Premiership record, so where is here coming from? I think he worked in the same power station that Eduardo lived near when he got his super powers, only Hleb got too much and it cooked his brain, muppet.
Still no one can slag off the chosen one and stay, so well done Hleb, you will get your wish and Cesc won’t complain, so it leaves the doors open to sign a big player for big money, or does it?
The Hleb story, which was an exclusive here on the Grove last week has proved once again that player power works, don’t forget Wenger signed him, he wasn’t from the ranks and at over £11 million, he didn’t come cheap.
Wenger needs to sign a replacement that won’t take years to bed in, my money is on Barry and shift the team around, he may even go for a winger like SWP or he may get Veloso and put Nasri in, whatever he does he needs to do it now, before pre season.
Arshavin, I could go either way on, at least Wenger can’t say he doesn’t have the money now.
Ramsey is saying he hopes to start against West Brom, so maybe he will feature more in the Hleb rather than the Flamster role, whatever he does, he needs to be positive and move fast, maybe YaYa, who knows, you got it …Arsene does.
Someone needs to explain the finances to the boss though, the stadium cost £450 million, not a billion.
We moved to the Grove to compete but now he says we need £24 mil a year for 17 years, bollocks Arsene, sing another song, this one is getting boring.
Expect some movement today Grovers, I have a feeling…
Evening Fine Men out there, if you think I am reading all these blogs and risk a ‘boot off’ Le Grove, anyway, I am not…. I have read a lot, but my time is sparce…… MEN!!!
Great post again Geoff, you and Pedro – well I dont know how you do it?
Old Whippy is coming out with some stuff, isn’t he, and now I think he is trying to justify it all – oh well, is he not a bit copper top, you know, like Duracell, so guess we should expect some more from him soon…………….
I am after sympathy, I have been putting up a blind, and we had a problem over the measurements – we differed with the lenght and width, Then I realised, you men measure your inches very different to us girlies, we are honest, but your inch =
SIX INCHES!!!!
MME – wonder which part of your anatomy uses that equation for lenght and width!!
Ps – I am concerned that my six in a row may get beaten, I may give him some sleeping tablets tonight, then I can sneak on Le Grove in the morning…
Has no one learned from what the press prints? Most of it is twisted bollocks & this has been proven by Hleb’s statement.
twisted bollocks, ouch, sounds more like life in the rugby scrum!
Geoff, I will do, I have a couple of tricks up my sleeve to make them listen but whether it’ll work or not is another matter. Is there any days you definately can’t do just incase I do have some luck with them??
What are you doing GMR?
Pedro, I’m going to try & line up a meeting with Wenger for myself & Geoff. As shareholders we should have some right to ask questions especially as they allow the Arsenal supporters trust time, I don’t see why independant holders should be treated any differently. If I can’t get something lined up with him I’ll try to do something with a director. I have a couple of things lined up to say to try & get the meeting I want, but we’ll see!!
As you & Geoff run a successful blog they might be willing to give us a few minutes if nothing else!!
That sounds like a great idea!
If Arseblog can get an interview with PHW… I don’t see why you couldn’t swing something! Maybe the outgoing Edelman would be a good target…
One thing I garnered from the extended version of the le grove exlcusive on Arsenal insider is that Hleb’s wife checks the fan sites. Probably hasten his departure!
Good evening lady and gentlemen.
I see there’s still about as much activity on the Arsenal transfer front as there’s sense spoken by that BBC fuckwit Mark Lawrenson……………..feck all!
GMR
I would love to see the results of that meeting if you can line it up.
I know some other Arsenal blogs speak of this one with distain, but it is the first one I have started posting on where I have not been told to go and support someone else if I vent any form of annoyance because i was not around in the 60′s and 70′s and used to not challenging.
As far as I am concerned, if things at Arsenal are going well on and off the pitch I will give praise
But likewise if I feel frustrated or dissapointed I will also voice an opinion.
keep up the good work guys
patthegooner, the funny thing is most of those that spout that c*** weren’t there in the 60′s & 70′s either.
Vitalarsenal is one such site where most of them must be quite young, as they’ve been doing supposed fan interviews with the regulars & nearly all of them were saying they wish they could’ve been at anfield in ’89. Funny that because I had nothing but abuse on that site because I didn’t think Wenger was the best thing since sliced bread & I was there in ’89 but my opinions counted for nothing!!
GMR – Don’t let it get to ya fella, fuck ‘em, bunch o’ fecking retards……..
gmr the boxer speaks!!!
hehe..
seriously gmr that would be great if you could set up a meeting … and you can provide us exclusive content.. not stuff like is it true.. is it false kinda thing….
speaking of quaresma.. i wonder who the big club is…
and again where is adebayor and hleb in the pics….
i saw bendtner there.. so he’ll probably be there for the coming season…
we miss you rico!!!
Agreed GMR, I faced the whole of the 80′s which were worse than the 70′s so fuck em
On another note what is worse
Sportingo
Caught Offside
Tribal Football
My choice goes with Caught offside because those
“Arsenal bid for 24m Sign, Could secure the Premiership” stories are getting right on my nerves
thank you choy – be glad when next week gets here
only joking – i am having a lovely week, just miss my Le Grove fix
Gmr, sounds like a super idea.
I’ve just let the chap at Arsenalinsider know where the story was originally found.
What a touchy blogger! I’ve never read a response so immature. I wont be posting there again.
i read this somewhere…
“It is unacceptable for a big club to go 4 years without a league title.” – Arsene Wenger on Real Madrid who have now bounced back and won back-2-back titles.
well karma’s a bitch ain’t it!
That is an amusing quote, I guess that was when he was telling certain players that the grass isn’t always greener!
Right thats my blogging done for the day!! Goodnight all, speak to you all again tomorrow!!
any one speak french?
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=numriser0001lg6.jpg
Looks like “it’s only” Ray Parlour is set to retire……..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7494043.stm
Poor chap, he probably has about £400 to his name after his wife took him to the cleaners.
Lets hope there is a future in media for him!
And Im off again too – not much happening
Sleep Well Grovers
Ethan
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
I JUST HOPE IT IS TRUE
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul8u.html
lol… i reckon anything above 25 mill is great business!!!
GMR Monday and Friday I can’t but no problem with the rest of the week and the following week I can make all week but Monday,
Rico I know about 9 inches! Pedro what’s Arseblog?
Ethan
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PART 2
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/07/08/Serie-A-Galliani-on-Shevchenko-and-Adebayor/
we are the only club it seems who are not loud mouthed!!!
fax comes.. speak to the press..
want a player.. speak to the press…
fax sent.. speak to the press!!!
cnuts
The gemnan newspaper Bild claims that both Barselona and Bayern are after Hleb, and Arsenal expect 19 mln. For this price many of us will give him a lift to the airport. Hleb is my countryman, but I will not miss him since he turned out to be a loser.
http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2008/07/08/juergen-klinsmann/verliert-er-den-kampf-um-hleb,geo=5081740.html
Geoff – Is that the real nine inches!!!!!??????
Rico
I thought you were told off for browsing
I thought you left us for the evening
this blog needs a facebook group! considering the amount of comments, it’d be huge!
we shd let hleb go and buy diego.
patt
He’s in the shower …………… Hoooooorah
Jahs
I am up for a facebook group
Pedro, Geoff are you on there?
lol… yes jahs.. thats a good shout!!!
pedro.. facebook beckons Le Grove!!!
Ethan
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PART 3
REUTERS ARE ALL OVER IT
http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKL086235820080708?rpc=401&
Rico
I am the same, I have got dirty looks all evening from the wife
But as I told her in 98, I can always get another mrs but I can never get another ARSENAL
ok people.. time to leave.. nite all!!
Pat – thats naughty…
But dont forget, the Arsenal will not cook your dinner and do the washing……. And most women don’t understand the love of football that we have, and the total love we hold for our club….. My hubby is a Gooner, and even he doent understand my ‘obsession’ –
But I love your way
Nite choy – positive dreams
Let’s for one minute forget about what we think about our club; positive or negative, the players manager, board etc.
I’ll tell you why;
Coz I want to concentrate on the completely fucked up football world we are a (very insignificant) part of.
We post on here, moaning about lack of investment, the paucity of the squad, the crapness of some players, the inability thru design or whatever of the manager to splash the cash on perceived needed signings etc.
But we are in a football worlod that has (to me anyways) gone effin crackers!
Not only are we in a world where average players are earning obscene wages after doing very little, agents leaking stories to papers, hyping up their clients so much so, that the deluded twats think they have invented a cure for cancer, season ticket prices are at rates that the core fans are priced out and the alternative is to subscribe to effin sky sports who, for me, are a main reason why we are in the effin mess in the 1st place!
We have Uefa/Fifa who are happy to see clubs openly tap up players of other teams to such an extent Michelle Platts says its understandable.
We have players who are sooooooo far removed from the real world (bet half of em dont even realise they need a passport to travel abroad coz some flunky sorts that shit out) they swerve off the effin road coz they gotta get by on a measley £55K a week and think the general mug, I mean public will be sympathetic towards their sad plight!
And then we have players who think after one decent season they deserve to be looked upon as world class legends or they will eff off to some club that their agent tells em will give em the dosh their imense talent so obviously deserves.
And we also have the media chinese whispers. Where one story, never mind how effin tenuous or blatantly bogus has the desired effect of creating a whirlwind of shite aimed at a particular club. Then the story is proved to be bollocks. Seeing the spud Lipton’s effort in todays M*rror just made me piss myself.
Pissed up rant over
I know Rico, but that summer of 98 was fantastic,
I have to admit I was gutted not to get a ticket for Wembley but having watched it in the Highbury Barn and being outisde Highbury just after is an experience which was better than than any Wedding (Sorry Wife)
Obsession is not the word and that is why i used to take great offence when other blogs took offense to me stating my concerns and telling me to support another football club
I thought there might be some alcohol there angry loner
Pat;
haha! Ta mate!
I just wikipediad the 1998 Cup Final
Can anyone else believe that Christopher Wreh started that game for us
Ian Wright was on the Bench
Pat – please dont think i was having a pop, i was on about my obsession, my love for our club – and your views about 98 and ‘the mrs’ – they made me smile,,,
my response was in the same vein, please if i have offended youm i truely did not mean to
No chance Rico, I was not offended at all
Phew -;)
Rico
My wife too is a Gooner, but not quite to the same obsessive levels I am at
I think we are in the same boat
Christopher Wreh……………………………How did that happen
I think we may be Pat, and my oares are not that long,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Right – that really is me done now -
Be Good you all
Night Rico, See you about 2 seconds after the new post tomorrow………….if you are allowed
so we wrote to milan to tell them Kanu Jnr is available for 36mil. hopefully barca start a bidding war and he’s off!
Not many big names in the official pre-season training photos….
That new house of Cesc’s was on Grand Designs I think.
angry
you can rant all you want about the ever changing football world !
but when our club cannot match teams like spurs in spending power , or talent comming in …
you just know we are going to have another one of ‘THEM SEASONS’ !
you know the board are just mizers !
Spurs are going to kick our asses next season ! ON PAPER !
If you cannot see a trend of wenger removing OUR experience and replacing it with low wages & youngsters then i pity you ..
Not sure what your on about with not needing a passport ! ALL our players need passports! thats the problem !
And we are in this Effing mess in the 1st place because we simply didnt re-spend the money on quality players when we let go of the invincible’s ! We would rather replace them with youth who have very little loyalty because they have won nothing at club level and are tempted by more money elsewhere !The system doesnt work !!!
We would rather see wengers transfer kitty’s year after year disappear into the board room bottomless pit , and make the stadium repayments look manageable to any future buyer ! just too make those fiscal reports shine !
And if your english at arsenal you hardly get a game anyhow ! So i think the need for a passport is great at AFC !
Focusing on the facts is helpful ! chevski might of started all this off ! high wages , etc
but look where it got English football ! In 2 or 3 short years the top 4 can really compete on the world stage with AC milan – real – barca ! Look how many clubs where english in the top 8 of the C.L last season !
Our club has a responsibility to produce a team of quality ! When ticket pricing was hiked a few years ago , all ticket/share holders got a great email from AFC stating that
they assured the price hike was to ensure we can sustain a GOOD quality of player for the fans to watch every week , to ensure we will remain a top flight team for years to come !!!!!
That justification now is just a fuckin joke !!!
Wheres our players ??? wheres the 3 top shelf replacements to put our minds at ease ???
did wenger mean 3 top shelf players are leaving ????
flamini – hleb -jens ?
because thats all ive seen happen this season !!
i hope wenger enjoyed his EURO road trip holiday …
there’s too many variables in the trade period for us to know what is going to happen….so many transfers are linked to other ones, it makes it ridiculous!
glad the facebook idea is catching on!
its in ur hands, pedro and geoff though!
which facebook idea?
too many variables in the trade period??
what are you on about ?
ade is leaving 90% .. wenger knows …
either way wenger knows ..
what we hear and what really transpires , is 2 different things ..
He knew hleb was off a lonnnnnnngggggg time ago ..
AND SET UP NASRI …
and ade wants more cash , or he’s off also !
We know the holes that need filling ! sooo FILL THEM ..
not with juniors with REAL NOW players ..
if the spuds can buy players and chevski also !
then surely signings like nasri – benarfa – arshavin … etc
can be completed !
Arsene knows (HAHAHA) who is going and who is staying ..
i mean he is bantering 30+ million for ade , so he must be wheeling and dealing currently .entertaining the thought of ade going for a price !.. hleb leaving and then someone replacing him isnt 3 extra signings …
sure hleb will need replacing so will ade ..
i want closure on squad strengthening ! the 3 players promised !
I know full well it wont happen in all honesty !
but it has nothing to do with variables evo !
it has to do with a tight ass board not letting wenger spend money !
the buck stops with them ! they are the owners !
I find it ludicrous that the share holders come out and say we have given arsene a 70 million transfer kitty … They make it sound like arsene is the owner and money man for the club !!!
ethan – come on bro, you know what im talking about surely?
ok ill explain….to me it seems and potential targets rely on what we may or may not do?
eg. if Kanu jnr goes, Ajax will surely put up huntelaars price if we say we’re interested.
eg. surely the ben arfa and nasri deals were linked to what we did to what marsielle did?
eg. the kleb deal will be linked to any potential manouveres for veloso, toure, anyone else.
eg. bentley/barry – if one moves the other could go anywhere, including us.
need i go on?
Hi to the guys from down under, I am at work and checking the the days comments at the biggest bar in the world. I am getting hooked on this site and it takes up a lot of my time. It makes me happy when skies are grey,
If the Ade/Hleb situation gets sorted out a bit lively we could all be a bit happier a lot sooner, words of total wisdom eh.
agreed el tel, once its sorted everyone will be shedloads happer
Evo
do you really think in a month of sunday’s that anyone on pedro’s magic absurd list will join us ! wenger has always signed players from left field ! We will get a player that is reasonable on the young side 23-24 plays in some European league which no cunt has heard from or has even contemplated being after .. or some up and coming frenchie from division A
pre season training isnt far away …
and you can bet your life evo that wenger knows if ade is staying or not ! ALREADY !
and they wouldnt be shifting figures back and forth if he wasnt leaving !!
He would just say no SALE , END OF !
and thats the end of it …
we will get some under 21 Brazilian striker , or Argentine under 21 ..
what ever , or some eastern block unknown !
when has wenger EVER bought a player of huntelaar’s caliber ?? NEVER !
so get the players in now to start pre season before it gets too late …..
The only way i can see it happening your way is if AFC is skin’t and cant afford
a single player until one leaves !
If that is the case then arsene should be fucking shot for saying we are getting 2 or 3 major signings prior to even the EURO’S starting !
i dont know what i think, however, im pretty sure he will be in the back ground with a list saying, if this person goes that way, then ill get this person….what do you think about that?
Arsene is playing hard ball with both ade and hleb … he isnt letting them go on the cheap !
he is letting them go ! but he is holding out for a good price …
I dont think wenger will ever buy a star player , lord knows we need them !
but i cant see it happening .. Maybe if ade get sold for good money the golden rule might ..might be broken ! for villa .. but i cant see it …
wenger thinks he can get better bargains from elsewhere !
nasri should also be a done deal !? whats the hold up ???
My point is if we had money to get 2 or 3 top class players 1 week after the end of season
then why the delay ???
those said players where being purchased weather hleb or ade was leaving or not !
correct?
i think if arsene hasnt got a plan now he never will !
i think 99% of the media links are totally bogus !
the boss has talked about ben arfa and nasri !
he has also said no to villa and kompany ..
thats fact .. the rest is speculation ..
but if wenger hasnt got 2 or 3 players already lined up i’ll be very surprised ..
(which im starting too get ! )
but i dont think the budget players he’s after will have any bearing on the sale of hleb or ade ..
those players MIGHT be replaced by youth ranks or new transfers when the time comes .but until they leave he hasnt put any plans into action ..
he probably has a list of a few players to replace ade- hleb ..
but to see how many numbers are left available in the squad line up tells me we arent going to get the players we want !
number 8 is available .. plus hlebs and ades numbers
my guess is 3 players …. left to get .. if both are sold .. and nasri in only if not ..
but if the nasri deal stalls any longer maybe wenger will need to go shopping again !
evo: just the idea of making a ‘le grove’ facebook group
yeah i agree that wenger said 2-3 players will come and that was before the kleb/kanu jnr saga.
1 is nasri, i guess the othe is ramsey unfortunately (he is long term, not short term like we had hoped)
so are we on facebook now or something?
Fellas! Fellas! I’ve just heard from BBC World Service that GB is experiencing its worst form of consumer/business confidence since 1992. By the way its sounds like Oz is experiencing its worse case scenario since 1994, or something.
What does that tell you? Well it tells me that if this continues we (both OZ & GB) will go into recession. Gordon Brown reckons it won’t last long, but he would say that coz otherwise he’s out on his arse. Will be anyway, but you all back in Blighty will be the judge there.
So the party is over as far as big spending is concerned with football. So maybe the Arsenal Board are looking @ the Club’s scenario in a more conservative way & saying “we must make responsible financial judement, with respect to the Stadium & ride this “recession”, for use of a better word, out”.
As for the manures of the world, one day, & it may be sooner than later, the debt collectors are going to be a knocking on their door. £850,000,000 plus in debt. I wouldn’t want to be a manure fan. They are in deep shitski
Morning ‘all’,
Blimey chaps (and chapesse) over 500 blogs again!!
GG9 – It’s crap in blighty at the moment, and not just financially wise, and maybe that’s why some of us back here are so pissed off with everything Arsenal, coz we look to them for a lift amongst all this doom and gllom, but if anything it makes things far far worse…………….oh, and fuck Gordon Brown the fucking munta……….phew!
ahaha now i know why manure and the chavs are in deep shitski
george
football will not stop , the revenue will not disappear .
those things affect the housing industries and commerce sectors , but things like football and food- beer-cigarettes . … will never have a fall in revenue .. maybe merchandising might suffer a bit , but as far as that is concerned i’m sure since TH14 and the stars left that has gone by the way side already anyhow !
.. cant see too many people buying a eboue shirt can you ?
Arsenal should not be affected ! im sure the board would like the recession excuse !
but you have people lining up to get your seat at cashburdengrove .
and as that is the clubs on going revenue i cant see any recession affecting football !
My brother – who is slowly turning into a bit of a militant – said all us season ticket holders hould boycott a home game, to show our dissatisfaction with the way things are being run at the club. He says, that way the money grabbing cunts will miss out on a hefty chunk of match day revenue, it’s the only thing these bastards understand……
my solution to todays problem is to hit he pub lads!
im out, catch you in a few hours!
Ethan, fair point, but some of manure’s creditors may not be necessarily football orientated. They have to pay their creditors in turn, so if you have a debt of over £850,000,000, some one is going to come a knocking for their “pound of flesh” or more to the point, what they are owed.
Most manure supporters who live on Goverment benefits can’t relate to having to pay their debts, & I bet they are the ones who give the most shit when they brag about Manure the greatest.
DDM, the only thing keeping Oz going economically at the moment is China. And as for the weather where I am, its horrible.
gg9 – A friend of mine who’s a Mechant Banker (!), told me that ManUre’s current debt is unsustainable under it’s current terms and conditions. Basically they only make enough profit to service the loans, NOT repay them! Therefore spending 50m on three players has to come directly from the owners or from further loans! So, like you say, with everyone going to feel the pinch sooner rather than later, those banks are gonna wanna get their money back at some stage…………now that’s scarey!
……& old red nose will just walk soon with his retirement benefit full, & won’t give a toss about what he’s left behind. LOL
Last??
Not quite Dennis! Rico…yes!
Swine!
Morning all!
So milan are interested again after saying they were to poor, arsene wouldn’t speak, they liked eto’o more, they like shevers more, they like ronaldinho more, the price was too high and Ade doesn’t like ice cream.
Do you think if we said they could have him they’d still be interested? Kind of like a kid who want another kids toy?
Wankers…
I am not even reading the story…
Pedro – Agreed, i can’t be bothered with this nonsense, it’s like a fecking game at the moment…………..yes we are, no were not, yes we are…………pathetic!
Have AC Milan got any players that we could be interested in?
george
its not man U that really need to make whole sale changes !!
they , in all honesty are odds on to win the league again this term , although chevski’s new personnel isnt to be sniffed at so far !
its AFC that need to find some cash and upgrade quickly ! or miss the bus i feel !
Morning all,
What’s the story?
Oh, milan want ade, not they don’t, yes they do, not they don’t, yes they do…
That type of thing…
Oh, and the mancs are having trouble servicing their debt…
Well can they make up their bloody minds and we get some dosh and move on ffs!!!
Bo ho ho re manure! We’ve all got blinking cash problems! They think they’ve got problems, we cant even afford to pay attention at AFC talk less of buying new players!
Rant over….. happy thoughts… 1998/99 season, cuddly little animals, and 6 chilled bottles of guiness….ah sweet!
Well those fecking gypo’s from Milan got Falmini for ‘free’, so they can fecking cough up for John Travolta or feck off……………
Peace be upon you all my fellow Grovers.
i think the boss is open to offers ! there are figures floating around and when figures are in the air , im sure its a signalled intent that arsene is giving ade what he wants !
and make some cash surplus for the boss at the same time ..
im sure we are skint !
and im also sure we wont get any players that will set the house on fire this term !
Where the NEW POST at?
I wanna be first!!!!
And on to you Dennis me old china!
I just wrote it and Pedro is formatting it so any minute now!
Ethan,
I know what you are saying, & you are right, but manure will have to pay the money back, & its a bloody lot. If they win 3 more titles in a row, their debt wil probably blow out even more, & in an economic downturn, well who would want to take them on, i.e buy a financial basket case?
If we end having yet another season on a shoe-string thin squad, and AW comes out with his normal “we lacked maturity’ or “we lacked experience” excuses i’m gonna fucking scream…………isn’t it his experiment and the clubs policy to field a bunch of untried, cheap nobodies……..
Yeah but we always seem to have mental strength!!!
Grovers you’ll like todays post as it covers all these points.
Pedro, re manure debt, I know its old news but I like to hoe the boots into them. You could say I don’t like them
Oi, are you picking on me already Odub, you big hunk o’ luuuuuuuuuuurve…….
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