Arsene Wenger or Howard Hughes? Legends play Champ Manager!

Let me explain, you are all thinking Arsene has lost the plot and we should be employing Gus Hiddink right? And that his intransigence at being abroad commentating instead of dealing with club issues is the equivalent of Nero fiddling whilst Rome burned.

 

And Adebayor and Hleb must be respected if they want to leave for more money and what we want doesn’t count for shit as we’re just stupid sheep like fans.

 

That he said we didn’t need a centerback was the worlds biggest denial since the naked emperor paraded his birthday suit, well let me tell you why you’re all wrong.

 

Arsenal, the official magazine has listed 10 potential transfer targets, amongst them are Akinfeev, Van der Vaart and Ruben de la Red.

 

The three wise men Charlie George, Kenny Sansom and Lee Dixon have all said that Wenger has spoken of a new centerback as a priority and have named Richard Dunne and Micah Richards as targets.

 

Charlie even went on to say we should never have let Diarra go, so all you AKB’s out there, go and buy the Arsenal magazine, June issue and burn it, because three of my all time heroes agree with Le Grove.

 

Now surely the Official Arsenal magazine is like Arsenal.com and isn’t allowed to say anything without the managers say so? So it must be true, eh?

 

So we all agree that we need to sign at least 3 players, make an example of Hleb and Ade and stick them in the stiffs, sign Micah Richards and tell Howard Hughes that he doesn’t own our club, we do, and we are fed up with selling our crown jewels and buying babies.

 

It’s time to step up Arsene, no wonder Nasri hasn’t signed, he doesn’t know how many players we’ll have by the time he gets here.

 

Stand up to players and other clubs boss, we need you to act like the Arsenal manager and not a recluse that builds shitty aircraft that take forever and never get finished.

 

Don’t be a Goose, be a leader, a strong one that doesn’t take shit from all the big clubs and all the players you nurtured.

 

For those who haven’t a clue what I mean, the Goose was the worlds most expensive seaplane built by the worlds maddest man, it took forever, it cost billions and was never used, sound familiar?

 

Happy domingo Grovers, Pedro’s birthday comments were memorable yesterday, let’s hope the boss reads this. It’s last chance saloon this week to sign some decent players. 


362 Responses to “Arsene Wenger or Howard Hughes? Legends play Champ Manager!”

  1. Evo in OZ says:

    1st again 2 days in a row?

  2. gunner_fever says:

    2nd and well said geoff …..the arsenal magazine is way better than arsenal.con…….if at all ade and hleb leave i dont care let them fucking leave but wenger should buy those kinda players like david villa,akinfeev,micah richards,arshavin and then that would mean arsenal fucking f.c is back in business big time……….arsene wenger wherever the fuck you are relaxing those goody two shoes of yours better get back to the club and sign,seal and deliver.

    we the fans want justice and by god we will take it.

  3. Evo in Oz says:

    27 days till the barnet game, less than 4 weeks, the bloody cheque book better come out soon!

  4. Pedro says:

    haha! What will the AKB’s say… The Arsenal Magazine is reporting on GOSSIP!

    There will be a few Gooners spitting their cornflakes out when they read that!

    Especially the bit about letting Lassana go!

    Great post though… loving the bit about the burning empire. So true and so irritating!

  5. Geoff says:

    Word has it Wenger sold the cheque book to Barca, because they wanted it!

  6. GMR says:

    Great post Geoff.

    Lately I feel I cannot even be bothered blogging due to everything surrounding Arsenal being so depressing. You just feel you’re saying the same thing over and over again due to the fact Arsenal don’t give a dam about the fans and don’t keep us in the loop at all. Even when new players are signed we don’t get a press conference like every other club, instead we get a few irrelevant lines posted on Arsenal.com.

  7. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Geoff , Top stuff, The way our players are tapped up is disgraceful. Heres this plonker Blatter talking about sorting out Englands woes internationally with the 6-5 rule (more like he wants to stop the EPL’s domination), yet he turns a blind eye to this taunting of our players by these poxy club s who say come to us, we have more money to give to you. Real Madrid & Barcelona why don’t you go phuck yourselves. Your legendary amarda got shat on by Drakey, just come to terms with it, The English have looked down on you ever since.

  8. Gunner8 says:

    Diarra should have never left agreed, look at all he achieved at the euro by moving

  9. dennisdamenace says:

    Any AKB’s out there care to comment on ‘my prority is to keep this group of players together’……………..

  10. Gunner8 says:

    GMR, the board do look at us fans that follow and sing for the club as sheep… …my ex-wife worked at DD’s law firm about 10 years ago and as a transfer was going through with the other DD present, they were sitting and chatting about how sad football fans were, paying their cash to watch players they woould never own etc.

    She relished telling me this although she wasn’t supposed to because she hated me going to football…. …as I always say it’s bettter than going to Church/Synagogue/Mosque/Temple (delete appropriatly)

  11. GMR says:

    Gunner8, I don’t get your point. So what if Diarra never got any time at the Euro’s at least he made the squad but can’t be blamed for the humiliating performance of the french there. Domenech is an idiot, hence why Clichy & Sagna weren’t even included.

    The fact he has an FA cup winners medal to show & our players have f*** all would justify the move in his eyes!!

  12. Evo in Oz says:

    socceroos 1nil down – kewel still looks fit to me, could be worth a cheap purchase perhaps?

  13. timao says:

    Everyone in the wide world could see that Diarra should have stayed – except Diarra. Whadyagonnado? By the way the Goose was awesome! The aviational equivalent of Philip Senderos, could only move in a straight line and never went above six inches in the air. Beyond that I have just three words for AW: Please buy Arshavin!

  14. Gunnar says:

    The Nero comparison is a bit wide of the mark (even alluding to it is unnecessary).

    This is time that other managers would be spending on a beach somewhere. Wenger’s spent June at a football tournament. I think that shows a dedication that you’re not really acknowledging.

    Seems like you’ve succumbed to the silly season hysteria. It happens to the best of us. Why is it last chance saloon, when the window has only just opened?

  15. Gunner8 says:

    dennisdamenace

    I was an AKB until Jan, I knew we needed to sign a player or two to replace Robbin and Tom but no we sold Diarra and then Eduardo was out for the season.

    I realized that while AW is a great man who has achieved so much in his ten years that he is a stubborn old mule that can not see where we need improving… …his persistance with Eboue on the right also baffled, he is the most rubbish Arsenal player since Kowimya.

    So yes I feel lied to and expected some quick dealings so that we could prepare for next year, not as Geoff mentioned yesterday, the August 31st deadline.

  16. Gunner8 says:

    GMR, yes he won a medal that Pompey would have never one without him… …yes he maade the squad but he hardly played and IMHO Flamini was better off on holiday.

    To say you are happier being a big fish in a small pond says a lot about your character… …but we needed him in the run-in showed even more by flimflam’s injury and it was a mistake letting him go

  17. Gunner8 says:

    timao, nice analogy

  18. stonroy says:

    Evo, is Australia playing china right now?

  19. Evo in Oz says:

    any1 got the new kit by the way?

  20. Evo in Oz says:

    stonroy – yep in sydney

  21. Evo in Oz says:

    ARSENAL TALK: Gunners linked with Kranjcar again

  22. Pedro says:

    Gunner8… whilst I understand what you are saying regarding the character flaws of Diarra… I would say it is Arsene’s responsibility to manage those insecurities.

    The boy wanted to play football… he didn’t want to switch benches. We could have loaned him out at the very least or we could have demanded he stay till the end of the season. He would not be disruptive… he is a quiet player.

    Wenger sold him because if he loaned him out… his value could have dropped further.

    If you let players go everytime they ask… you set a precedent… which is clearly being followed.

    Gunnar… 27 days till our first match of preseason… we have lost Flamini… Ade wants out, Hleb wants out and we haven’t signed one first team player.

    There maybe 2 months of transfer window left, but how many players bought on the 31st of August settle?

  23. GMR says:

    Gunner8, I agree we did need him or at least someone else to be brought in. Clearly he didn’t have the right attitude but Wenger should have made him stay until the summer at least.

  24. Evo in Oz says:

    Kleb may want out, but Wenger is playing hard ball on him…we all know that, the info has been around for weeks!

  25. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All.

    What a cracking game last night. I was rooting for the Dutch at kick-off, but by the end I was swayed by the brilliant Russkies.

    RvP didn’t get a look in against a superb defence. The commentary over here is piss-poor. Can anyone tell me and preferably AW, who stood out ?

    Perhaps the DM we need is a Russian.

    And Arshavin !! 4 weeks ago we had never heard of him, now he looks the best thing since Maradonna.

  26. GMR says:

    We need new players for the start of pre season. The CL qualifier could prove difficult this season, I don’t know who’s seeded or not but if Zenit aren’t we could end up drawing them.

    Whats the point of buying players 2-3 games into the season when you could already have slipped up & given an early advantage to your opponents?

  27. Big Raddy says:

    Can I point out that no-one has bought their new players (aaprt from the Spuds). There must be some bidding wars going on for the best players available.

  28. Evo in Oz says:

    there appears to have been 15 deals done in the premiership so far!

  29. Gunnar says:

    Pedro, thanks for the response.

    But most summer signings don’t happen until late July/August. Some of our best transfers have been around the end of close season: Thierry Henry was an August arrival.

    Recently, Eduardo, Sagna came in July. Diarra left Chelski in August.

    That’s just the way it tends to happen.

    I’m not on here to attack the blog, but can you really be sure that Ade wants out, or that either he or Hleb will actually leave. I’m not saying that they won’t go – I don’t know – but speculation gets the better of everyone sometimes.

    I admit Wenger has his flaws, but isn’t it better to wait and see, before writing him off.

  30. Evo in Oz says:

    Do we reckon that Diogo news is real or not?

  31. Big Raddy says:

    Any big signings Evo ? apart from Modric, Santos and Boswinga

  32. choy says:

    good morning people….

    AR SHAVIN.. wow… and that pavluchenko…

    their prices would have sky rocketed!!!

  33. jules says:

    morning all and great article geoff , it’s ok building but WHEN THE FUCK WILL IT ACTUALLY BE BUILT !!???? . Dennis menance , great point about trying to keep the squad togeather . going well is,nt it !! I am so pissed off with this . If Nasri was in London for a medical and agreed terms , WHY has he not signed !!?? The thing is we have seen Villa etc and Arshavin last night , fantastic player , perfect player to replace hleb but deep down you know we won,t get them . And thought now we have a big ground , we would compete for some top players .

  34. Gunner8 says:

    Pedro and GMR

    I agree he needed to be firm for a change, after seeing Gilberto in the few chances he got looking llike he was playing for the other side Diarra was a necessity for us to keep until the summer

  35. Pedro says:

    The speculation isn’t started by the blogs… it is started by the new sites. The blogs just allow the fans to discuss what is going on.

    No one is writing the coach off… I’d just like a response to what I feel is an attack on our club.

    Hopefully we will see a busy July… just not in the sense that 27% of last years first team leaves! I think even the most optimistic fan can see that both players want out…

    The Arsenal PR machine leaves a lot to be desired. To me, there is no benefit in silence… It makes us look weak.

  36. dennisdamenace says:

    Question – How can any manager profess to build a team, and as soon as a relative nobody/unknow puts in ONE good season he either is flogged or he wants away – either way it’s two steps forward three steps back, and my question is the money made from these sales is hardly ever ploughed back into the first team, so where the fuck does it go?

    Oh yeh, wages on 17 year olds!

  37. Big Raddy says:

    I agree Gunnar. I have yet to see any direct quotes from Ade saying he wants out. In fact, the very opposite. As to the Barca story – if a journo asks ‘would be flattered if Barca want to sign you?’ , any positive response is taken az proof that he wants to move.

    Only two weeks ago the Togonator put out a statement confirming his love of Arsenal, and his commitment to the team. If he is leaving, it is because the club want to sell him.

  38. Evo in Oz says:

    Big Rad – those 3 plus Degan to pool and Ramsey to us!

  39. jules says:

    ddm , excactly ! we have actually made profits out of the last two transfer windows haven’t we ?

  40. stonroy says:

    I have to ask this though. What’s with all these newpapers hating Arsenal so much? They defend Man united and call Ronaldo a traitor, but when it comes to Arsenal they try and weaken us with every little thing. For example Clichy going to Italy. Wenger managing PSG… This is fucking ridiculous. Why are we so fucking hated..

  41. choy says:

    big raddy… ade wants out simple… and so does hleb..

    look at what fabregas did…. he sacked his agent….

    you can’t go on 80k a week with one year of brilliance… fabregas has been doing it for 3 years and i think he just got a hike or not….

    same with flamini… if you love the club you will stay …

    having said that.. we are definitely acting like skints…

    we’re trying to race ferraris and porsches with our toyota corolla!!!!

    not that its a bad car…. but you get the point!!!

  42. Evo in Oz says:

    Socceroos are playing like there C side on the pitch!

  43. Geoff says:

    Gunnar apart from Ramsay we haven’t bought anyone Diarra excluded, for nearly a year.

    Anyone with a business brain would be buying before the Euro’s, Wenger himself has said that, anyone with a footballing brain wouldn’t need the Euro’s to see how good a player is, Arshavin for instance, you could see his worth in the UEFA cup, what would he be worth now, same with Villa.

    If you’re happy with our defence then good luck you’ll need it.

  44. Evo in Oz says:

    Pique has left Man scum and gone back to Barca

  45. Gunnar says:

    Exacto, Pedro and Big raddy!

    Arsenal has the worst PR team at any premiership club.

    It doesn’t help that, unlike the Spanish clubs (as well as Manure and Chelski) we don’t give the press any tips about our transfer targets because we can’t afford to go into bidding wars.

    Hence all the crap that gets printed about us. Silly season is damaging for Arsenal, more than any other club and it is something that needs addressing. Of course other teams want our players, but the fact remains that they’re willing to stoop to methods that a club with Arsenal sense of class and dignity would never even consider.

    Our website should be more fan-oriented and set-up to deal with our cloak and dagger transfer policy. And to communicate the necessary message to Barca an their ilk: Something along the lines of, “Back the f*ck off”.

    My point is that I’m not an optimistic fan. It isn’t much fun, but the best thing to do in the Summer is avoid being optimistic or pessimitic about the any rumours. It’s better for your health.

  46. Pedro says:

    Raddy, who said this?

    “We are a new generation, we have to create a new history. I want to be part of this history, so I hope I will be here for next season. At the moment my advisers are talking with the club, so I really hope that everything will be okay.

    “I cannot put a time on it, but I really want to stay here.”

    AC Milans new left back!

    Its the same scenario with Ade. He isn’t going to come out and say he wants to leave… that is tantamount to a transfer request and Ade losing £2.3mill in kick backs.

    They’ve both done their apprenticeships and they want out… its sad… but it’s true.

    That is why I would prefer ready mades to join who give us 5 years of great football then leave… Like Sagna or Thierry.

    I don’t want Arsenal to become the club you go to to learn your trade.

  47. jules says:

    geoff , i don’t get it . i thought wenger highlighted the defence as a problem cl exit and now say’s he dose’nt need anyone !

    choy , more to the point , like i said with our great stadium but no big signing’s

    no point in having a ferrari with a gearbox from dicks auto ,s

  48. Big Raddy says:

    Choy,

    I see evidence for Hleb, but what are you basing your assumption about Ade upon?

    I am not saying he will not leave, after all IF we are being offered £25m for him, it is great money for him. Personally , I think the figure is massively inflated, and again I would ask where it came from? The Sun/Mirror/NOTW ?

  49. Pedro says:

    Gunnar… you are spot on regarding Arsenal.com.

    It takes 2 seconds to issue a denial.

    Arsenal fans don’t want to be told about who we are chasing, but at the same time… we don’t want our hopes raised with talk of a defender (We all know we need) – Then dashed 3 weeks later without good reason.

    Keep it zipped or stick to what you say.

    There is no clarity.

    Does anyone even know if Arsenal have a PR firm?

  50. Evo in Oz says:

    If we get 25 mil or more for kanu jnr, it is truely another cash in! I like him, but you cant turn down that amount of coin!

    It would all come down to what happens with the coin, if it ends up in the bank, then thats the cunts! If we buy 1-2 class players with it, then ka pow! Bang!

  51. Geoff says:

    That’s why we moved to the new stadium, so we compete with the big teams and not get left behind, so why the fuck are we not competing?

  52. Big Raddy says:

    Pedro, the same answer to you…. I want proof not assumption !!

    As has been written extensively, Flam moved for bigger money. He said he would try to get the money from AFC, and when we were £30k a week short, he took a better offer. (who can blame him!!)

    But would he have moved had AW offered a similar wage? I believe he would have stayed.

    As to the ‘game’ played by agents – you are absolutely right. And of course there is a possibilty you are right about Ade. But without evidence to the contrary, I prefer to believe in his integrity.

  53. jules says:

    pedro , its called Hill Wood and partners . silent partners

  54. Gunnar says:

    Not sure. I work in advertising – I reckon I could make the jump. Talk about a dream job eh!

    Although I did hear that Kroenke owns half the site. And that it’s having a massive overhaul this summer.

  55. timao says:

    I’d like to refer to the point I made earlier – buy Arshavin!!! By the way Big Raddy the commentators over here slagged off the Russian defence for failing to defend set pieces – and they did look vulnerable to a ball lobbed in from the flanks..? We don’t need any more of that. That left back Professor Zhirkov looked like a worthy back-up for Clichy. Maybe Colodin is worth having as a 40yd dead-ball specialist, what a shot that guy has! Shame he can’t head the ball in his own box.

  56. Evo in Oz says:

    i wouldnt be surprised if wenger went in for arse shavin – he mentioned him in his interview yesterday

  57. jules says:

    hope so evo , he looks a great player , perfect replacement for hleb if / when he goes .

  58. jules says:

    there we go again , getting our hopes up .

  59. choy says:

    BR… we are basing what we write on blogs as speculation… we do not know for a fact that what is going on.. as I personally have no inside information from the club…

    we read from sports news and so on and so forth…

    now ade was interviewed recently and i was made to believe that he would not like to comment on the current situation..

    now he has told us that he would personally like to stay here.. on arsenal.com

    but I remember TH14 saying something along similar lines….. arsenal forever and stuff like that… this from a man who had broken all club records.. given his best for the club….

    if a person like him could make promises and leave… what guarantee do we have that a flash in the pan one year wonder would not leave..

    when he has always stated that he is in for the money!

  60. Big Raddy says:

    Evo… that would be one hell of a signing. Could he become the first Russian superstar? (you lot are too young to remeber Lev Yashin!)

  61. Evo in Oz says:

    yeah definitely better than kleb, as he actually shoots and scores goals!

  62. Gunner8 says:

    The fact is Pedro they come here to ply their trade and when they leave turn back to dross… …but yeah some consistency would be nice for a change

    offski

  63. jules says:

    get ready for 1.5 million jean jaque weah abib , the 16 yr old from the congo ,

  64. Big Raddy says:

    Thanks Timao.

  65. Evo in Oz says:

    “Andrei has told us that he wishes to change clubs,” said Advocaat. “At present in the way of offers it is quiet.

    “The situation may well change after the game against Holland for the national side.”

  66. Big Raddy says:

    who he, Jules?

  67. Pedro says:

    “There is not a player who could say no to Barcelona. If Barcelona make an offer for me and reach an agreement with Arsenal, I would be delighted to go there.”

    That is one quote I found Raddy.

    Then you have the quotes from Bronzetti… saying Arsenal want to sell to Barca not Milan. For me… all it would take is a 10 second clip from Wenger saying he is not for sale at any cost.

    Case closed until the next round of quotes. Then you reiterate that point.

    Raddy… you were joking when you put the word ‘integrity’ the same sentence as a footballer?

    Bergkamp had integrity… Cesc seems to… but other than that… you are struggling!

    Here is my chance to show I am not bias when I talk about footballers.

    I think Ronaldo has treated Fergie disgracefully. He made him the player he is today and at the first opp… he is off! What a joke… absolutely no class.

    At least Drogba showed a bit of decency. He let everyone know his plans at the start of the year… no gossip, no ambiguity, no fan stress.

    That is how to do it in my book of principles!

    I’d be a shit agent wouldn’t I?

  68. choy says:

    and carlos vela scored again for his country!

  69. Geoff says:

    Don’t forget before the break up of the Soviet Union, Hleb was Russian and would have played for them.

  70. jules says:

    evo , without playing 28 passes ! sign the bloke ! ffs

  71. Evo in Oz says:

    China just had a penalty awarded and scored it, but the ref awarded encroachment and to take it again, so he missed it on the re-take! wanker!

  72. jules says:

    big raddy , our next signing us gooners are desperate for , (was joking )

  73. choy says:

    question of the day:

    When will our club have the ambition to make a 50 mill pound or more transfer deal on a single player?

  74. Zorr0 says:

    If I was a player and had confidence in myself, I would not talk to anyone about signing before the Euros were over.

    Take Arshavin, before the Euros it was Newcastle and Everton who were looking at him. Now, he has all the top clubs in Europe after him and his signing on fee and wages must have gone up by 50%, as for his fee, well Zenit are likely to get 50% more too!

    Now look at Modric. Signs for the scum. Why? He played well enough for some much better clubs to be interested in him now. Serves him right!

    Makes you wonder about Nasri! Maybe he realised he might not get much playing time; how right was he!

  75. jules says:

    sorry , i am being very flipant and negative this am . frustrating though is,nt it ! ?

    just want to win badly next season and not have to tolerate those petulant mancs
    in my face again . Come on Arsene , SORT IT OUT .

  76. Big Raddy says:

    Fair point Pedro. I don’t want to hammer on about this. We shall see.

    Ronaldo …. as I wrote yesterday. I am looking forward to his fight with MU. United have this myth of being a club you cannot fuck with (see, Stam, Horseface, Becks). We shall see.

    But ……. MU came out in the press and were very clear about their feelings about Real’s approach, and how they would respond to a positive reply from the Winker. Now, they are betwwen a rock and a hard place. So how did that help them? If AW continually rebutted rumour in the press, he would look a total dick, if his assurances turned to shit.

    If MU give way – no matter how enormous the transfer fee, the Hard Man SAF’s reputation will be shattered. :-)

    Player power …. we shall see

  77. Pedro says:

    Choy:

    Answer: Never

  78. jules says:

    choy , play station 3 ?

  79. choy says:

    lol.. i just want our club to make a super signing… the hopes will be up.. maybe players would not want to leave…

    success attracts people you know and as a club we’re having very little of it…

  80. Pedro says:

    Arguably though Raddy… Have ManU ever had a player as talented?

    I know that is a controversial thing to say… but Ronaldo is an amazing player.

    He is as big as Beckham regarding marketability and twice as talented.

  81. jules says:

    bang on choy , imagine the lift we would all get if we went out and got someone like villa , that would also be a statement of intent of aspiration/ ambition.

  82. gunner_fever says:

    choy_kwok is right we really need a super signing.

  83. jules says:

    yep , come on wenger show some balls .

  84. Evo in Oz says:

    maybe lehmann will be playing in the friendly against us for stuttgart.

  85. choy says:

    hahah mad jens…. what a character he was!!!

  86. GunnerShabz says:

    am suprised to see david villa linked with spuds

    if spuds do sign him, am going to shoot wenger

  87. choy says:

    gunnershabz… the spuds wanted to sign eto too.. we all know what happened!!

  88. Evo in Oz says:

    i read that villa wants to stay at valencia now, hard to believe seeing their results this season

  89. Geoff says:

    I just wish we buy somebody, as long as it’s not Martens.

  90. GMR says:

    Stam, RVN & Beckham were all kicked out the club, it wasn’t them that wanted to leave. If Man Utd weren’t under the control of the Glazers I think Ronaldo would be stuck in the reserves for the next 2 years, however due to their debts I don’t think they’d be allowed to do such a thing with Ronaldo now. There is no way the banks would allow them to f*** about with a minimum 45 million pound fee.

  91. Big Raddy says:

    True Pedro. But is any player bigger than the club. Especially in MU’s case.

    This is enornous for footabll and I do not understand why not more is being made of it (at least over here!)

    1. Man Utd are the biggest club in the World, both financially and in terms of Fans. Ronaldo is asying he wants to go to play for the better team, how can he justify that.

    2. Ronaldo is unquestionably the best player in the World. He is also the most marketable. How much will MU be affected if he leaves?

    3. How do Real balance the enormous cost of his signing.? OK they will sell a lot of shirts, but you can be sure Ronaldo’s agent will be making sure he has a major slice of that money. And they are mainly Thai copies !

    If Real get the Winker, it shows every other player the power they have over their clubs.

    As to MU ‘nurturing’ him. He was (maybe is) the most expensive teenager ever. He would have made it playing for Barnet !!

  92. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    At the moment with respect to The Arsenal, the tail is wagging the dog. The Club is being fucked about by the players’ egos & agents. So, for me, its time The Club took a stand, made a statement & reclaimed the upper hand. Look @ Barcelona. They have said they don’t need Ronaldinho & Et’o etc, players that 99% of clubs would gladly have. That says that Barcelona is in charge. Ofcourse it appears the opposite with The Arsenal.

    Get strong Arsene Wenger, we all know you have been given carte blanche @ the Emirates.

  93. GMR says:

    Whats the betting that Arsenal have agreed to sell Adebayor & when the real transfer fee gets released it’ll be somewhere closer to 13 million!! Its always the same with Arsenal & then Wenger will tell us all how he has no money.

  94. choy says:

    sounds like adebayor!!!

  95. rico01 says:

    Morning Grovers – great read Geoff

    I wonder how many of us would prefer to still be at Highbury, the good old days when big players signed for us, food and drink not so expensive, and we could all get home easy on a Saturday evening -

    If big stadiums = no ‘big players’ then i for one would still be for Highbury

    I am fed up with Hleb, Ade and Nasri saga, its lasting longer than the lifeline of a Duracell battery!

    Arsene knows – yes, F ALL!!

  96. Big Raddy says:

    True GMR. My point was about the danger of coming out in the press with statements like ” he will rot in the reserves”.

    It has put the club in an impossible situation.

  97. rico01 says:

    And why the F doesnt AW do away with his stupid 1 year contract rule for the over 30s – we would have kept Sir Bobby but for that!!

  98. Big Raddy says:

    Rico, how you have changed ! When you first came on here, you were a ray of positiviity. Now you have become a Grumpy Old Woman. :-)

  99. jules says:

    rico , i hate to say this , but i was thinking that too . highbury , bergy , pires , adams ,
    henry , etc etc , a cheese bagel in the east lower for £2.20 and you could get a pint without walking a mile . more to the point SUCCESS !!!!

  100. choy says:

    duracell battery was top notch rico :)

  101. jules says:

    seriously . i love the new stadium , its great , i just want to not be bridesmaids in the best church .

  102. Big Raddy says:

    I think things went downhill when we got rid of the marching band before the game !!

  103. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Well Big Raddy, that big crocadile that runs round before the home games doesn’t really inspire;)

  104. Evo in Oz says:

    what sucked thou, was no booze at champions league games!

  105. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Evo, did Australia C win, lose or draw?

  106. rico01 says:

    Big Raddy – I am not grumpy, just frustrated. I suppose before I joined all you Grovers I was a bit of a AKB – always thinking that AW would get it right eventually. But you old buggers have made me see things so differently, and very seldom can I disagree with ‘Grovers’ comments that are made –

    I look back on some of the fine players that we have lost, either for free or little money, and then look at those we have bought in, and those ‘used to fill in’ when we suffer injury.

    Look at Gallas – ok we got him eventually, but five years too late
    Cashley – he was worth a lot more than we got for him

    Pires – still playing well in Spain
    Edu – free
    PV and TH – cheap sales, and had they have stayed with us, maybe they would hev not taken a dip in form as they have. You have to be happy in life to perform well
    Same with Petit and Overmars…….

    I could go on and on, but you will think I am more grumpy, I am just very down hearted as players seem to want to leave our fine club and no-one on the board seems to give a damn. So many things need sorting out, and it does not always mean it relates to money….

    I just wish the boss would get the squad together, ask who wants to leave and then sell them. Then use the money and replace them with experienced players and get this club back where it should be.

    Maybe then I will stop moaning!! ;)

  107. Damian says:

    Diarra wasn,t good enough what he was was a good investment cheap good reserve & maybe make it or at the least always a profit waiting to happen at that price it just happened quick so terrific dozens of better options than Diarra

  108. Grove Rider says:

    I do not believe that becks was kicked out at man u. I think the day the boot flew into his face signalled the end of his time there. Also you might remember that he was left out against real in the CL that season when he alledgedly made the phone call to his agent that night to make the move happen.

    Whatever the case real made there money back in 3 months, so it wasnt excatly a shrewd decision from united or fergies POV.

  109. Matt says:

    Arshavin has a £10M buy out clause in his contract – so his value may of gone up – but he is still available for that price.

  110. Big Raddy says:

    I agree Rico about the desire to play for the club. But beyond signing a contract , how can Arsenal guarantee their loyalty ?

    As Pedro says, there is no integrity left in football. Sadly, money corrupts

  111. david says:

    Diarra refused to play in two cup games and refused to go out on loan.

    Evryone is saying season ticket prices are too high but if you are a season ticket holder and you see a player raking £25,000 a week sittng in the stands for two years with his value decreasing would you be happy?

  112. Arse&Nose says:

    Sorry but one guy agreeing that letting Diarra leave as a mistake does not mean that the whole of the Arsenal magazine agrees with everything Le Grove say! It’s nothing new to do interviews and publish the opinions of ex-players, just because their opinion on diarra is the same as yours does not mean they share all of your opinions!

  113. Evo in Oz says:

    george – OZ C lost 0-1.

  114. rico01 says:

    Big Raddy – my point exactly, that is what the board should be doing – asking why these players want to leave – my guess its because of, obviously money, but they want to play with big names, big players etc – when we had DB, PV, Manu etc, we were that club that big players wanted to come to – we need to get back to that status…

    I am not for a takeover by the Russian, but I guess that is what DD means when he says we need an investment.

    Is Stan the man ‘really’ joining the Directors, and if so, will he be handing AW some money to spend this summer…

    Right, no more moaning for me, I promise to be more positive and fall right back in love with Barry Manilow – I mean AW!!

  115. Evo in Oz says:

    Ambitious Bundesliga outfit Wolfsburg are ready to throw their hat into the ring for unsettled Arsenal midfielder Alexander Hleb, according to reports in Germany.

    Barcelona and Bayern Munich are believed to be leading the race to sign the Belarus international, who wants to leave the Gunners.

  116. david says:

    I only want wenger to spend the money he as got, we don’t need major investment just a tweek and a bit of back up.

    £600 million and a winning manager has hardly got Chelsea a million miles ahead of us a couple of points, no cups and shit football..

  117. Big Raddy says:

    I take it Wolfsburg is a nice quiet rural market town….

  118. jules says:

    rico ,

    i feel the same , it is not being negative , just realistic and like me you just want to see your club win . our rants are frustration not negativism if that is a word.

  119. GMR says:

    Arse&Nose, where has Geoff said the whole of the Arsenal magazine agrees with everything le-grove say??

    Why do you bother with this site anyway when you go & slag it off on other blogs??

  120. Evo in Oz says:

    the press is rife with bollocks….

    just had the best roast dinner ever washed down with a bottle of sparkling red!

    Bloody ripper!

  121. Big Raddy says:

    Evo… sounds great.

    Frustration is part and parcel of being a fan. Thank goodness we don’t suport the Chavs. They buy all these superstars and still end up playing boring fotball and winning FA.

  122. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Yes I’ve had 29 years of that with my other footy club.

  123. Arse&Nose says:

    Slagg it off ? I appologise if I have hurt your feelings GMR.

    I read this blog everyday, do i not have a right to have an opinion?
    I agree with some things and disagree with others, thats the whole point of having a debate.

  124. Odub says:

    Afternoon all.

    Hope you had a good one on your birthday Pedro, and you’ve got a thumping hang over!!

    So have we signed anyone yet?
    Has AW made any noises on who he’s signing?
    What’s the latest gos?

  125. Patrick7 says:

    Some big names for others to want to play with?

    We’ve got Cesc, Sagna, Clichey, Eduardo, RVP, Walcott plus the new kids on the block who are the pick of the talent out there coming through and maybe Adebayor, Hleb, Nasri……….. Everybody drools at our football! OK no successes i.e. silverware as yet but another season of that football + success and we’ll have it all!

    We just need that CB…………. Ever the optimist….. Been happy with the football to date, obviously would have been happier with a success or two but far better than watching the coach parked across the goal type football of other teams not too far away!

  126. Odub says:

    …Top post again btw Geoff, where are my manners!

  127. Big Raddy says:

    Rico, our players ARE big mnames. Otherwise why would they be cherished by other big clubs?

    Let’s not put ourselves with Villa, Everton, Blackburn etc.

    There are only perhaps 4/5 teams bigger than us, and sadly they always will be . Man U, Barca, Real, AC Milan, and maybe Bayern.

    The Chavs have more money, the Scouse have more silverware, But we are a bigger club.

    I would put us the same level as Inter.

  128. rico01 says:

    BigR – now thats more like it, and I would hate us to be owned outright, the ‘family’ feel will go –

    The Chavs – what a load of money they have spent, and they have destroyed players by buying them, thats what happens when too many players are in a squad.

    Sidwell
    SWP
    Shev
    Bridge (now better than Cole I think)
    Alex

    I am sure there are more, but all went for the money, and to keep their bums warm on the bench….

  129. rico01 says:

    Big R – they are not big names, they all have only four or five letters in them….

    No moaning :)

  130. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    Big Raddy, Wolfsburg is an industrial city built by the Nazis, a ‘new town’, and was called City of the People’s Car when it was started, referring to the VW Beetle that was built there.
    It has nothing to recommend it apart from the VW factory.
    Hleb would be none too pleased by this move.
    I hope we sell him to Wolfsburg.

  131. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    Would also say that juve are bigger than us, and liverpool probably.

  132. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    mmmmm there is a bit of a lull after yesterdays excitement with Arshavin & co. And of course Pedros birthday.

  133. Big Raddy says:

    True GG9. Any topic you fancy chatting about?

  134. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Yes, where do you live in Denmark?

  135. Geoff says:

    Thanks Odub, sorry for the new bloggers taking a while to get on, I’ve been out for a bit, but welcome to Le Grove, you’re on now.

  136. GMR says:

    Arse&Nose, You haven’t hurt my feelings, I don’t run the site.

    Its you that comes here saying Geoff has said things he clearly hasn’t, so why don’t you try keeping your opinion to things that have actually been said.

    Was it not you who was posting on young guns about how le-grove deleted your comments because you didn’t agree with them??

  137. Big Raddy says:

    AFC, I think, and it is just opinion, we are probably on equal footing to Juve.

    To say we are a smaller club than LFC sticks in my craw ! After all, when was the last time LFC won the league? Mobile phones weren’t invented, nor was the internet. In fact most of the bloggers on here weren’t born !! Does a very, very, very lucky CL win make them a bigger club?

  138. Geoff says:

    Arse&nose of course it does, what makes you think that Arsenal magazine doesn’t agree with everything we write, our posts are both witty and informative, but always bang on. I thought you knew that.

  139. Geoff says:

    Is that true Arse&nose?

  140. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    BigRaddy, all opinion, of course.

    juve are bigger though, although it sickens me to say it, and I’m in my 40s now, so I remember Liverpool being quite good…until ’89ish, and 5CL wins is more than lucky, sadly.

    Have no fear though, by the time we have paid for the Stadium and sold our soul we will be ready to try and catch them up. I figure around 2015 we should be ready.

  141. Arse&Nose says:

    lol yes of course we all agree with you.

  142. dan, says:

    last chance saloon this week to sign decent players? i thought the window closed at the end of august? unless you mean in terms of getting them in for pre season.

    good article yesterday by the way.

    also the 3 wise men as their column is titled , always say plenty in the mag each month, but last time i looked none of them were managing a football team?

    as for the cb comments, it wouldnt be the first time wenger has said one thing and done something different, im sure hed said we werent signing anyone in the window we signed ade walcott and diaby, so it could be a plan like that or something else like he plans to promote nordveit (who the manager and steve bould have both said is ready in terms of ability mentality positioning technique etc but a bit behind physically, perhaps hes spent the summer eating creatine and going to the gym :) ) or use a tall defensive midfielder to givew the defense aerial protection. whatever it is so mething has happened to make him change his mind and the only thing we can do is wait and see..

    no mention of the ade news today?

    what do you reckon? seems to be way too much smoke with no recent denials from club or player for there not to be some substance?

    25 m for a 3 m player whos had 1 great season is good busines but only if we use that cash to improve the team, signing santa cruz seems like a bad step due to his injury record we already have rvp and rosicky in permanent residence with diaby owning a time share in the remaining bed in the sick bay and cant see how wed replace like for like as theres no one about with ades height strength and pace, or ability to always score against the spuds!

    what do you reckon?

  143. david says:

    Preston North End, Blackpool, aand Stoke City are bigger than Chelsea then.
    lol

  144. dan, says:

    oh and im with you 100% on durham being a massive ginger twat, this isnt the first or even 10th time hes talked aload of bolocks about arsenal or people related to the club, i reckon hes a spub and he claims to support some lower league team cos hes too embarrased to admit it

  145. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    david: Preston North End are far bigger than the chavs. FACT.

  146. Big Raddy says:

    GG9. Copenhagen. A beautiful city.

  147. Geoff says:

    The trouble is Dan we always hang on to the hope that Wenger is bluffing, but he never is, we’ve needed a centerback for some time now.

    You don’t have to be a manager to have an opiinion, I’m not!

  148. Big Raddy says:

    AFC. I was talking about their recent win over AC.

    Burnley are bigger than the Chavs….. Fact

    So are Huddersfield, and Wolves !!

  149. david says:

    Wenger is definataly bluffing he said he would keep the team together..

  150. Geoff says:

    It certainly looks that way, why can’t the Senderos’s want out instead of the Helb’s and Ade’s?

  151. 5am says:

    Up with Gus Hiddink should be Carlos Qeuiroz if the manager decides to take the French job after Domenech gets sacked – that way he’d be reunited with Diarra too!

  152. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    BigRaddy, I know you were talking about the win against AC, but they are still bigger than us due to their silverware, and 5CL’s is very impressive.
    Enough about those bin-dippers though, making me feel all sicky inside just typing about them.

    Huddersfield Town for sure, in fact chelsea are not in the top 20.

  153. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    Senderos is on a cushy number, he aint going no-where, and who would want him if he were to go ?
    Ade and Hleb though know they can earn more money at another club.

    Our wage-structure has got to be changed.

    Not rocket science to see that when we had our big earners in the team…Sol, RP, TH, PV, etc., we were bloody well near Untouchable, and now we are running after the ‘promising youngsters’.

  154. GMR says:

    Us fans are always told by AKB’s that we should just wait & see what happens & that the transfer window is open until the end of August. Then come mid season when its all going horrible wrong again & we dare to suggest that Wenger should have bought players all the AKB’s come out saying how easy it is to say that with hindsight.

    Do these people ever realise how ridculous they sound??

    We’ve been waiting for Wenger to keep his word for the past 3 years, isn’t about time he was forced to keep his word?? He treats the fans as mugs, just look at his recent Q&A session with the shareholders, he sat there & lied through his teeth about what he was doing. He has since said he would sign 3 players, that we would be reassured & that he would do that in 3 weeks, again nothing happened. I can accept that maybe 1 of the deals was more difficult than he thought to complete, I suppose its even possible that two of them went wrong, but all three?? I don’t think so.

  155. Geoff says:

    How are AC Milan able go after Arshavin and pay Ade £80k a week? where do they get all their money, they aren’t even in the Champions league.

  156. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    Geoff: Berlusconi.

  157. dan, says:

    that wasnt really what i was trying to say, more that they have to answer aload of questions every month and if every answer concurred exactly with what the manager said it would be pretty suspect at best

    for my opinion richards and dunne have been made out by all the paper hype to be more than they are, there is no way in a million years that richards is worth 15 to 20 million, he obviously is a beast of a man and has alot of pace and is good in the air but his positioning alot of times last season was suspect at best and his pace helped him out of alot of mistakes, dunne wouldnt be a bad buy if we could get him for the tiny fees that are knocking about in the papers but hes hardly world class and was considered a bit rubbish a few years ago so he hasnt been so good for all that long.

    But with that being said he could be just what we need, good in the air, experienced cheap and knows the premier league, wouldnt be completely outraged if he was on the bench if gallas and toure were playing well and hes old enough that it doesnt necessarily mean we have to get rid of promising youngsters due to him being 23 24 and them having no way of getting a chance in the team for ages..

    sort of player that does no harm either way really, same sort of thing i can see us doing for a third choice keeper, wether we like it or not it seems almunia (who i thought had a solid enough season last year, not the sort of keeper who stand out but he didnt really make any massive clangers either) is going to be number one, after getting his new contract etc, much like he did with poom if he doesnt see vito mannone as an adequate third choice hell probably bring in an older keeper for a free or small fee and theyll perhaps battle with fabianski for the second choice spot

  158. david says:

    Spurs seem to do better than us (spending wise) in the transfer window and they make a profit.
    Never been in the Champions league and hopfully never will..

  159. dan, says:

    to be fair gmr we have signed 2 players and nasri is virtually in the bag, wether you consider yourself reassured by ramsey coquelin and nasri is a different matter though!

  160. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    dan: WORD. Don’t know what GMR is moaning about. That’s 3 signings right there.

  161. Evo in OZ says:

    im off to watch the GP and then bed lads, catch you all tomorrrow!

    cheers!

  162. david says:

    But even if they was big names we have lost three more players since Arsene said three players..

  163. GMR says:

    Nasri hasn’t signed & the longer it goes on the less likely it looks.

    I don’t consider Ramsey or Coquelin signings, clearly they aren’t for the first team.

  164. GunnersUnitedFC says:

    looks like we’re not gonna be signing many players.

    “I brought my cheque-book (to Euro 2008) but, having looked at the prices, I’ve realised it isn’t big enough,” Wenger – who is also hoping to keep hold of Alexander Hleb – said in the Sunday Mirror.

    “But I will use my cheque-book first to keep the players I already have.”

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3722269,00.html

  165. dan, says:

    spurs are proof that spending big sums doesnt always buy success like chelseas,

    bent got about 4 goals for 16 million, zokora made a big show of saying hed turned us down 12m for him how glad are we now that he did!

    kp boateng? adel taarabt who some of their deluded fans reckon is better than fabregas cant even get a start and just falls over alot when he gets off the bench,

    thank god they havent sacked commoli yet!

    i know he had some success, berbatov for example, but his flops outnumber the good ones at least 3 -1

    and lets not forget modric has done nothing in the prem yet and they paid nearly twice the original asking price for him (9M) hed already said hed rather go to spain than england so clearly he wasnt considered worth it by the spanish clubs.

  166. GMR says:

    Gunnersunited, I’ve just read that article as well. What a joke, talk about letting us all down again!! Hope the season tickets are going to be reduced accordingly!!

  167. dan, says:

    im not saying they were what we were hoping for when it was said or that theyre particularly reassuring (though if man u wanted ramsey that badly then he cant be bad, though completely unproven…) but he basically has signed 3 players, hopefully there are at least another 3 to come or our squad will have less numbers and less experience than last year

  168. david says:

    But the point is they have spent the money , they have less income, and they still make a profit.

    Our revenue is far higher than theres so where is our money going??

  169. dan, says:

    gmr: nasri is over here having a medical, its been confirmed by the marseille chairman, the arsenal press office seem to take weekends off the lazy fuckers so expect it to be announced next week assuming hes passed

  170. GMR says:

    Come off it, there isn’t a fan anywhere that would be reassured by those signings & if thats who he was talking about then he is clearly taking the piss & deserves the boot immediately.

  171. GMR says:

    dan, Papa Diouf didn’t confirm that at all. You are being misled by articles on websites & newspapers that have taken his quotes out of context. Anyway he was supposedly having a medical on thursday so its got to be the worlds longest one if its still going on.

    Go look at the Marseille website, there is absolutely no news about Nasri’s transfer at all. From all accounts the only thing missing from Samir joining is his signature, that would also be backed up by the players comments of being 99% sure of joining Arsenal. It seems to me he is clearly having second thoughts & thats why I doubt it’ll happen.

  172. dan, says:

    the nasri signing is hopefully a good one, ferguson and man u wanted ramsey enough for him to be in a rage about it and their fans to have some serious sour grapes at him not signing. i dont think their what anyone expected from the way the manager talked (and he does seem to be doing alot more talking this summer than normal) but i still dont reckon its worth getting that pissed about until at least the end of pre season, im not saying akb but the way agents are now , making little press comments trying to get a bit more money here and there, some deals take alot longer than the 2 clubs and even the player might like , no really major transfers have gone through as the players are all either at the euros concentrating on their tournament, playing south american world cup qualifiers or on their holidays

  173. david says:

    Nasri wants more money, Wenger confirmed it when he said about the French league clubs pay as much as the premiership now and with the Euro stronger now the we are not as attractive..

  174. The Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. says:

    GMR: Think that nasri was all but signed, but then another offer came in that has made him stop and think.
    Also with this talk of players leaving he might be dubious about the promises AW might have given him re. wage increases.

  175. gooner 4 lyf says:

    david our money is goin towards paying off the debt for the stadium

  176. Gelbs says:

    Total cunt that Wenger. “My cheque book isn’t big enough.” Of course it isn’t Arsene. What do you expect to get for 3 million pounds? Fucking cunt. Had no intentions of ever purchasing anyone decent. If we have no money to spend, maybe the cunt should put Arsenal first before him. Tell the board to slash his whopping 3.5 million a year down to 500k in order to spend on players. His wages should match those of a Coca-Cola Championship manager. Seeing as he only buys unheard of shits and crappy youth players. “Yes we couldn’t keep hold of Adebayor, or Hleb and Flamini for that matter, instead, we are bringing on Sunu and Freeman and Vela next season. Fantastic potential. And when we lose it be because we lacked maturity…..” Then we will have to appoint a new manager. What a fucking cunt.

  177. dan, says:

    so your willing to believe that pape dioufs comments could have been taken out of context by the media but not wengers? after all the only comment about him not singing a centre back was taken from PART of an answer to a question about a specific player for example?

    of course the player hasnt officially signed but no one else has come out and said theyve made an offer nevermind having one accepted, and the only club supposedly competing is atletico

  178. david says:

    It’s 23 years on a fixed rate loan g4l..

  179. gooner 4 lyf says:

    has any1 thought that maybe aresenal want to anounce all there signings at the same time jus a thought we may be waiting to anounce every1 at the same time

  180. david says:

    They did Ramsey!!

  181. dan, says:

    gelbs thats either sarcasm or youre a complete cock

  182. dan, says:

    and according to the board the loan would still be payable even if we were in a worst case, to get relegated and attendance falls to 20k, so if the payments are that low it shouldnt really be affecting transfers

  183. Gelbs says:

    If Arsenal’s loan is at a fixed rate for 23 years, then surely they are only paying off a small amount (for example 2.5 million a month) which takes it well over 24 million a year. Times that by 23 and you have over 500 million. So the small amount is what Arsenal make ALONE in a single home game. And we have no money eh? What total shit.

  184. Geoff says:

    It’s depressing, why don’t we sell Cesc and Robin and pay off some more debt, that way we wouldn’t expect to win anything.

  185. david says:

    Fizman should stand next Wenger and say “we have a budget of £75million for transfers am I a liar”

  186. Geoff says:

    Dan we don’t slag each other off mate, that what starts the arguing.

  187. Just Stick It In ! says:

    yoo hoo geoff, quite a write up eh? excellent!

    remember last season when arsene did not sign anyone proven? look where it got us.

    but however i am being optimistic here… cesc, clichy, sagna & ade(if he IS staying) will have one year’s experience under their belts, which is positive i reckon.

    having said that, we still DO need to make a significant signing/s(?) to make a statement that we really mean business next season.

  188. LeGrover says:

    everything is shit,
    arsene wenger is a cunt,
    arsenal are tight, we need big signings.

    i was playing fm2007 and affelay is brilliant, lets get him,
    also lets get ariel ortega he is the best in fifa 98,

    and lets get mattheus sammer he was good in sensible soccer. come on arsenal splash some cash!!!!

  189. GMR says:

    dan, I know Papa Diouf’s words were twisted, its not about believing it or not. Never once did he confirm that Nasri was having a medical or that he was in London. Anyway that side of things is irrelevant because I believe that whole deal is complete except for the most important part…..Nasri’s signature. It’s him who isn’t signing & I believe thats because he has doubts about joining us.

    I’ve never heard Wenger say he was going to sign a cb so I don’t understand what you’re saying. He did however say he would sign a player that could deal with long balls down the middle & he said that in the Q&A session so I know 100% he said it. I’m not having ago at Wenger because he hasn’t bought a certain player I’m annoyed because he hasn’t bought anyone (I refuse to believe Ramsey was one that would reassure us). Now Wenger is suggesting he won’t be buying anyone (he won’t say that outright but anyone with an unbiased mind knows what he means) & that he needs his money to keep the squad together, to me thats pathetic.

  190. GunnerShabz says:

    so do u think adebayor is leaving us then for milan or barca

  191. dan, says:

    if we lose aload of players dont replace properly and then win nothing again next season we will probably lose cesc and rvp anyway, i thought last season after losing henry ljungberg (though a shadow of his former self) and others that we did well to challenge and it was most importantly an improvement on the last season.

    we could perhaps have done with another winger or a more aerially capable cb but at the end of the day the january windw wasnt used as it was expected van persie and rosicky would be fit again and no one knew eduardo was going to break his leg or that kolo was going to lose his mind after the acn.

    if this season we dont make many signings or adequate replacements and go backwards then it is definetly time to start questioning the managers position

    but it is no coincidence that 2 of the most successful clubs over the last decade in english football have had the same manager for the whole time.

  192. david says:

    Trophyless!

    What do you mean look where it got us?

  193. dan, says:

    fair enough geoff but saying you want anyone to die particularly someone from the club your supposed to support over a game of football is ridiculous

  194. david says:

    We also had two centre backs at the ANC and Djourou came back from Birmingham injured.
    When Woodgate became available Wenger was way off the pace and embaressed us with a late bid!

  195. Just Stick It In ! says:

    david, i do really want arsene to sign someone who can set the bpl alight but at the same time hope & pray last season’s experience would do cesc etc some good.

  196. david says:

    Cesc has lost his two best friends at Arsenal because we won nothing .

    What good did this season do for him to stay at arsenal?

  197. rico01 says:

    Nasri – he is not ours to include in our signings, and in any case, he is not much better than Ramsey IMHO – still a kid and unproven… Even when he did get five minutes at Euro, did he really shine????

    Sooner a player bigger, stronger and with more experience, the latter especially….

    Now I have said that – what the bet he signs soon!!!

    Answers on a postcard please!!!

  198. dan, says:

    rico, did any of the french team shine? the answer is completely no, yet we know at least half of those players are or were world class, he gt 15 minutes at a time in a team that was as a whole underperforming

  199. dan, says:

    so to say that with champions league and 4 years french league experience ad international caps hes no better than a 17 year old with 22 championship appearances is a bit of a poor comparison?

  200. Geoff says:

    I know Dan and I agree with you, but I think emotion got the better of him.

  201. Just Stick It In ! says:

    i don’t expect cesc to jump ship just because flamoney & pleb did.

    give the boy some credit but if arsene does that’s a different story altogether!

  202. A says:

    rico ramsey is a nobody, not even had a cap for wales. Nasri has played at the top level for marseille in the french league, starring for two years, and getting young player of the year, as well as getting a fair few french caps. There’s a massive difference between the two

  203. Geoff says:

    The thing is if a player says he wants to go Wenger lets them, so if Cesc sees no signings and no silverware why would he stay?

  204. rico01 says:

    thought my view on Nasri would stir, i am just not getting excited until he is signed….;)

  205. GMR says:

    It won’t just be cesc. You can add rvp, clichy & sagna to that list. Never fear though I’m sure there are a couple of 14 years olds that can fill the void!!

    I just think we’re all being too hard on Arsene & the board now. I think they should put up the ticket price 100% to help cover all the debts & I don’t think we should sign anyone for the next 23 years. Who cares about trophies its the taking part that counts!!

  206. Just Stick It In ! says:

    is there any way that we could make cesc thinks he is the saviour that the club has been waiting for? if we manage that, i don’t see any reason he has to move.

  207. Big Raddy says:

    Geoff, you know I am a mild mannered man. But Dan’s response to Gelbs was perfectly justified. He just got in before I did !!

    Does anyone really imagine that AW doesn’t do all HE believes is best to win the EPL ? That you do not agree with his policy is part of the great debate, but to say what Gelbs said was completely unaccaeptable. Emotions running high or not.

  208. Gelbs says:

    Yeah, sign 4 world class signings including Villa.

  209. rico01 says:

    dan & A – honest, you will see from my previous posts, I am desperate for Nasri to sign, its the likes of Ramsey that frustrate – yes he has potential, but in 2-3 years we might benefit from that, we need now!

  210. dan, says:

    well said BR anyways im off, been interesting posting on here this morning and seeing what people whos opinions in general are roughly the other side of the coin to mine (though not in regard to all things and issues i should say) had to say

  211. jules says:

    have you just read this from wenger , i bought my cheque but realise its not big enough crap . i cannot believe this shit excuse , how pathetic . in other words . dont get your hopes up . i have had enough of this . very different from the fans will be happy with what they see . i am so pissed of with this . how embarrasing .

  212. jules says:

    i mean one of the best managers in the world “did not realise “, what a fucking stupid statement , JESUS !!!!!

  213. david says:

    He might have nad a glint i his eye when he said that jules,

    It may have been a tougue in cheek remark to all the players we have been linked with and the cost quoted..

  214. LeGrover says:

    why isnt his cheque book big enough
    hes a cunt
    a liar
    i hate him
    sack the board, we need money or we will be left behind
    sack them all
    lets buy people, we need to spend 200m to catch up

  215. david says:

    Had not nad sorry trying to buy a cd for the workshop at the mo!

  216. jules says:

    well ive had enough tounge in cheek for now , so was the defence needs attention , 2/3 big signings in the next 2 weeks and the fans will be happy with what they see tounge in chhek too ?? I guess so .

  217. ethangunner says:

    legrover

    you are obviously mocking us !
    go find an AKB site that suits you !
    your a stupid little man !!!!

  218. jules says:

    it ‘s a different story every week david , it’s bollocks ,

  219. ethangunner says:

    GMR

    you captured the mentality perfectly !

  220. LeGrover says:

    ethangunner you dont understand I am a real turd, sorry I can’t help myself and I am 6 years old.

  221. jules says:

    just an admission that we can not compete with others in the transfer market .

    had enough , have a nice sunday all , sunshine , couple of beers i think .

  222. TJ says:

    Jules, at least you’ve got a nice Slovak nanny to look at this summer!

  223. david says:

    Go to the box marked silly season at the top jules, all i am saying is Wenger has seen us linked to all those players and PERHAPS made a cheap jibe about the chequebook not being big enough.

    Do you really see Wenger walking into the Russian and French training camps with a cheque book in his hand. I’d rather he was at Arsenal dealing with the situation and had a holiday during a Enland /carling Cup week when all the signings have been made (hoping) and the season is underway..

  224. finestcuts says:

    I have to agree with Raddy, Gelbs post is an absolute disgrace, it’s pureile, it’s vile and utterly indefensible, it’s absolutely disgusting.

    If you don’t like a person, make your points clear but using a patronising and foul tone speaks volumes about the author. Learn some manners and decency,
    or perhaps that is something you can neither comprehend nor appreciate.

  225. Geoff says:

    Sorry guys, I let him on in good faith, he had his 15 minutes, he’s done now, Raddy you’re right I’ll edit the comment.

  226. Confidentgoner says:

    The Russians were very impressive lastnight inspired by Asravin. We can see RVP’s limitations as a midfielder. He did not threaten enough and failed to offer defensive cover. I hope the RVP fans here can dissect his performance in that role properly. I wonder why Basten dropped Arjan Robben who could have provided wing threats from the left. The Dutch coach perhaps was over confident in this match and has paid dearly for a stupid strategy.

    Back to Arsenal. Our options for a promising 09 season are getting narrower. With AW admitting he has a limited budget to strengthen his squad, it is a hopeless case for him to hope to keep his existing players with his shoe string wage structure. That is like saying that I have no money but hope to keep one of the best looking mistress in the world! It is clear that Ade, Hleb are unsettled. Why? Because their Mr. 20% and the players want more money that we cannot afford. I am pretty sure that gunners will say that well we have Nasri, and we can buy adequate replacements for Ade. Sure, but after after one season the replacements will want more money bigger than the wage structure and you go down the same vicious route. And I still think that Nasri is still not a done deal.

    With these developments, I think a guided sale of Arsenal FC to a reputable investor is what we are going to get soon. It is inevitable and we need the cash injection to keep staying among the best in the premiership and in the world.

    Up the Arse!

  227. A says:

    Rico can make a big difference now, he’ll be much better than the likes of diaby playing left mid right now. It will most likely be a year or so before we see the best of him, I expect him to be like Pires in those terms.

    Vela scored again for Mexico last night, nice goal too, he’ll prob take a while to settle though as well

    You’re right david, yet another throwaway comment that the media have taken and tried to make a story out of, and some numpties always bite and take it as fact! It was him joking about with his commentary buddy, not an interview or press conference about transfers!

  228. A says:

    confident robben was injured. I didn’t think VP was found wanting defensively, that’s actually the one area in which I was very surprised and impressed with him, he got back and stopped crosses/counters time and time again, in the first half especially defensively he was very good. His overall performance was pretty average though, then again the whole dutch performance was very average. I think he’s going to come back at the start of next season and after a good pre-season he’ll show he’s one of if not the best forward in the prem

  229. Geoff says:

    I hope you’re right A, but he should be addressing the Arsenal fans, he is after all our manager and spokesman, the only way anyone gets any news is from these sites.

  230. david says:

    If Arsenal swap with barca say Ade / Eto’o or Hleb/Yaya, does that mean Mr 20% gets as much commision as if we sold them on a cash deal to Milan??

  231. A says:

    Arsene has said he doesn’t want to sell Ade and Hleb, and that he hopes to do the Nasri deal after the Euros (whether he meant after France knocked out or the tournament is ambiguous), and that’s that. He hasn’t said anything else because nothing has actually changed. Just because sites choose to ignore his comments doesn’t mean he should repeat them weekly when nothing has changed. Rumours about Ade’s happiness don’t constitute anything actually changing.

  232. choy says:

    wow.. it sure is chaos in here!!!

    did any1 see f1… feck me… the hole on kimi’s car!!!!

  233. Geoff says:

    Ok A you’re right, there’s not much point in me writing again until we have a match on, then whatever Wenger says afterwards, I’ll write about.

    Sorry for my constant speculating and irritation.

  234. A says:

    No, that’s the point – the fans can speculate and gossip-monger and such like all they want, it’s fun. But the problems come when fans take gossip and speculation as fact, as well as the fact they complain that Wenger and arsenal.com won’t join in with the gossiping!

  235. Geoff says:

    That’s why Wenger should open his mouth, that or sue the newspapers, but if the comments are true he needs to fine the player and tell us so we don’t have a shit summer.

  236. norway-gunner says:

    totally agree that wenger should stop wasting time and monye signing 17 year olds who either never play and go to championchip clubs where they become stars and later score crucial goals against arsenal, or develop like cesc and leave for next to nothing to barca… Sign players like Sergio Ramos, Akinfeev and david villa. Also to all the fans: stop talking about flamini replacement!! we have gilberto who had flam’s place to begin with, we have denilson who for me is a player who deserves to be cesc partner in midfield every game, the kid has it all, tackles everything and never stops working, We have song who showed great promise, and don’t forget diaby who could be next viera if he learns to play the ball after winning a tackle and stop losing it all the time, he has the agility to become a great viera. We don’t need more french teenagers to sit on the bench, we need to keep the players we have, and develop some english talent like lansbury and randall, because we all know that the stupi 6+5 rule is going to be enforced sooner or later, or just after next england fiasco in a tournament. Also sell almunia, the guy is not good enough for a stature club like arsenal. Akinfeev would be a good replacement, ommanding his area, good at one-on-ones, brave, young and he is the first choice for russia despite being only 21!!!

  237. A says:

    The only reason the newspapers do it is because they know they can get away with it. Half the time it’s agents/clubs who give them the untrue stories to generate interest/increase value/negotiate new contracts etc. Transfer gossip is not incriminating, as it doesn’t actually attack people extensively etc, noone would ever take libel action against a newspaper as a result. The players are allowed to feel unsure about their future, what they want to do etc, you couldn’t fine them for it! It isn’t a crime for someone to want to move somewhere else, and neither hleb nor ade has even said they want to leave, so what could they get fined for?!
    arsene commented on the hleb situation when the agent reports first came out, along with the lies about him being able to buy out his contract, and put that straight, why should he have to continuously repeat himself especially when everyone just ignores what he says because its more fun, and more profitable (in the media’s case) to do so, and continue to gossip

  238. jules says:

    tj , yes i have , she is sunbathing in her bikini as we write . so back to the garden .

  239. patthegooner says:

    A, I think there is a difference this time with Ade and Hleb

    I that now the Braca link is too strong to be put down as speculation. I think we are talking to them and are looking to get best price if they are to go

    I think wenger wants them to stay but privately he realises that for some reason they both want to play elsewhere and will get as much cash out of it as possible.

    I dont expect Wenger to come out repeatedly to comment on speculation, but when a potential major story arrises like now (Remember the last comments from Wenger were to do with Ade and Hleb to the Milan Clubs) then they should be publicly rubishing and when they dont it only leads me to believe that we are letting them go.

    I think what I am currently fucked off about is that we had a better than expected season, and my morale was up, Wenger then came out with the keep the team together and add the final pieces to the puzzle, and supposedly we were going to be re-assured about that within 2-3 weeks.

    Great I thought, finally for the first time in 4 years I would enjoy the summer and genuinely feel positive about our chances next year. suddenly Flamini has gone, Hleb and Ade are unsettled and we have bought a 17 yr old……….AGAIN

    I know the transfer window is still open, but in my mind you can only make the best of the transfer window if you buy prior to pre-season starting, otherwise it is like a kid missing the first 2 months of school, they are then playing catch up.

    In the transfer market we always seem to be playing one step forward 3 steps back and it fucks me off.

  240. Confidentgoner says:

    A,

    I hope he does. What I do not get is a sense of urgency within the AFC to sign on dependable quality. They may perhaps be doing it behind close doors and no announcements mean they have had no success. Our fingers are still crossed.

  241. Geoff says:

    Norway, sorry you had to wait, welcome to Le Grove!

  242. Big Raddy says:

    There seems to be an impression that we have a divine right to players. Yet we all know nothing is going to happen until after the Euro’s.
    Agents, players andclubs are all jostling to get the best deals. No-one is stupid enough to take the first offer, while there is the possibility of a higher bid from elsewhere.

    Fortunately , if Real really do get Ronaldo, then their budget is spent. But, it leaves MU in pole position to sign Arshavin. If Drogba goes to Milan, the Chavs have got to find a replacement – Villa.

    It isn’t as simple as a wish list.

  243. SIMON MCAHON says:

    OLA GROVERS, just got back from the land of CESC, LOG ON TO MY FAVOURITE BLOG SITE AND SEE THAT THE SAME THINGS ARE HAPPENING AGAIN!!!!
    apart from sisgning another 17 year old ,No NEW SIGNINGS,by that i mean the super class players that our manager promised we would have on board in 2- 3 wekks remember that statement,BOSS!!
    IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ADE will go and we will make a tidy profit,if his comments reported are true about Milan Are True I say FUCK HIM!!!
    Message to you have had one good season ,thats all ,you arrogant cunt!!!!!

    One thing though I am realy getting pissed of with the way Wenger handles the media,
    tODAYS REPORTED CHESNUT IS”
    I HAVE BROUGHT THE CHEQUE BOOK TO THE EURO’S AND REALISE THAT I MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AFTER THE BEST YOUNG PLAYERS ON SHOW.
    I WILL TRY TO KEEP THE SQUAD I GOT HAPPY FIRST
    FUCKING MARVELOUS WHICH MEANS THAT APART FROMTHE WELL DESERVED NEW CONTRACTS FOR CLICHY AND SAGNA , HE MAY EVEN BE CONSIDRING THE GREEDY BASTARD ADEBAYORS DEMAND FOR MORE MONEY,
    FIRST OFF THE PLAYER HE SHOULD BE PAYING A FORTUNE IS CESC give him a kings ransom,HE IS TRULY A WORLD CLASS PLAYER WE SHOULD KEEP HIM HAPPY!
    SECONDLY WHAT ACTUALLY DO OUR SCOUTS DO THEN ?
    Think of the last three years apart from sagna, who have we bought that was a ready made premiership player from day one ?
    PLESE DONT SAY ROSICKY,HLEB, ADEBAYOR, WALCOTT,
    I’M TALKING ABOUT SLOTTING THEM IN AND GETTING SOMETHING FROM DAY ONE NOT HAVING TO WAIT A SEASON OR TWO.
    ALSO I HAVE WATCHED ALL OF THE GAMES AND WHEN SPAIN HAVE PLAYED AND HAVE HAD TO BRING A DEFENDER ON I WATCHED WITH GREAT INTEREST raul albiol From Valencia,
    He looked ,woeful,slow ,cumbersome and couldnt cope with the swedish long ball game ,so lets hope he dosent show up at the grove,
    and finally why is wenger their anyway he can see all the players from every angle sat in his own armchiar, YES I FORGOT HIS GETTING PAID TO WORK FOR FRENCH TV, like he needs the money His priority IS ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB ,He should be aware of that .
    if those two greedy bastards HLEB ,ADE,WANT OUT THEN WHY NOT GIVE US FANS WHAT WE WANT ,GO TO BARCS AND SAY THOSE TWO FOR YAYA, AND ETO’ (WHO IS A WORLD CLASS STRIKER ) WHAT A STAEMENT OF INTENT THAT WOULD BE…… AND ITS POSSIBLE, YOU COULD BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR THAT PEOPLE LIKE NASRI WOULD SIGN IN DOUBLE QUICK TIME THEN..
    I have said in the past that this season is make or break for le boss , i really hope that he makes me eat my words of critisim next season ,,
    BECAUSE WE ARE ARSENAL AND WE DESERVE SUCCESS .

  244. Geoff says:

    Raddy no one is waiting for the Mancs to go first, we ask, they sell or they don’t, we move on.

    We should have bought before the Euros any businessman will tell you that.And Wenger said 2 to 3 weeks, I didn’t, he did. Now he says nothing, it’s boring, the same happened last year.

  245. Geoff says:

    Well said Simon and welcome back!

  246. TJ says:

    Jules, i’ll be around to drink your beer (again) shortly!

  247. rico01 says:

    Meanwhile, back in Gotham City…………………….

    Nothing bloomin changes – However, I have faith in our manager, he will buy

    Arshavin
    Villa
    Eto
    Nasri
    Ben Arfa
    Arda
    Buffon
    Nasri
    Sneijder
    Poldoski

    And the boy from the McDonalds Advert

    Oh – and we sell Ade and Hleb

    Everyone OK with our new squad??

  248. Geoff says:

    I quite like it Rico!

  249. rico01 says:

    Thank you Geoff, I thought you might…

    I have promised not to be a Grumpy old woman, so I am now being positive….

    ;)

  250. A says:

    Latest rumours is that we’ve had an offer rejected for diego, and also rumours that wolfsberg interested in hleb now, would be a great exchange imo

  251. rico01 says:

    A – diegoo stuff was bantered about yesterday………
    Aw needs to spend more if he wants this guy

  252. patthegooner says:

    What do you reckon tonight then guys

    Being selfish, I want Italy to win so Cesc can get on his holidays and be fresh as possible for the start of next season

    Also dreaming, maybe once Villa, De La Red, Silva etc are not longer commited to the cause, maybe Arsene will bounce a couple of cheques

  253. A says:

    why was diego stuff bantered about? i hadn’t seen any rumours about him recently, not sure how i missed that. He’d be a fantastic signing, and can imagine he’ll want to leave wolfsberg to go to a big club sooner rather than later

  254. A says:

    In terms of tonight I really hope spain click rather than italy boring them into submission. As Cesc’s barely played he shouldn’t be tired from the tournament, and would be nice for him to arrive at pre-season fresh having now played much at the Euro’s, but on a high from coming on as sub and banging in the winner in the last minute against Germany in the final!

  255. A says:

    sorry im being really dumb re diego, its bremen he plays for, not wolfsberg

  256. TREZE13 says:

    its Diogo not Diego that we are being linked with right now.

  257. Confidentgoner says:

    Simon,

    Lets not slate players if they feel they can earn more. It is perfectly human. The whole mistake started from not trying to retain Flamini for just 5000 ponds a week. That was what caused us to loose Flamini to Milan, not really because he wanted to move to ‘Milan.

    Players are like consultants and they see the way their colleagues are getting on and go on to their own conclusions. I think personally the board have been looking at some wrong statistics like salary paid out between teams, forgetting that AFC has a large youth squad and that makes our wage bill seem to rise to the top bracket.

  258. rico01 says:

    Italy to win tonight for me – then Russia to beat them to get to the final…..

    Im for Russia to win the Euros

  259. A says:

    Yeah the one that plays for portugeusa or whatever they’re called, though i think thats just bringing back the claims in january by the club that we’d offered for him. I saw rumours today that we’d had a bid rejected for the midfielder diego, and as there was talk about wolfsberg throwing their hat in the ring for hleb, i absent mindedly thought there could be some truth in it if was an exchange. However obviously werder bremen and wolfsberg are different clubs so probably complete bollocks!

  260. rico01 says:

    Treze13 – thats who was bantered about yesterday, the 21 year old who we have bid for, is AW going back with a better offer?

  261. rico01 says:

    Hey guys,

    My other half is a Gooner as you know, but probably only because i am, however for the first time he has come out and said, and probably due to the wine induced coma, that AW is on borrowed time and the club need to put the money in the mouth of the man who keeps saying we can win everything!!!!

    Flickin Heck, I am dumb founded, it speaks!!!!!! :)

  262. rico01 says:

    Wow – this is a peaceful Sunday evening…………….

  263. rico01 says:

    Oh well, I shall just talk to me, what a dreadful game of football this is!!

    Dum de Dum, de Dum de Dum, Dum de Dum de Dum – Ooh, is that the Archers…………………………;)

  264. rico01 says:

    Who said football is a boys game…………………

  265. Abdenor says:

    Evening Rico

    What happened to yesterday’s optimism, some people are going way over the top, this how i see things…….

    Chelsea will go through a major rebuilding exercise next season (too many ins & Outs) , i can’t see them winning the league.

    Quite frankly whatever happens, I don’t see Liverpool being crown champions under the fat bearded spanish waiter’ leadership.

    Man U might loose Ronaldo and will have to go to Japan in december to compete for world club championship…… it’ll be a though season for them i reckon.

    AW will sell Hleb and Ade, purchase a top notch centre back, a world class defensive midfielder , David Villa & Arshavin!

    End result = Champions :D

  266. Abdenor says:

    ………….. and then i woke up!

  267. Abdenor says:

    The game is yet to take off……….. maybe it’ll open up in the 2nd half like the Russia game last night.

  268. rico01 says:

    Evening Ab – is this De – ja -vue, so simple so right, and with them on board, i would be happy… Ab, I am not allowed to be grumpy, BigR has told me off today….. ;)

    Poor game though?

  269. rico01 says:

    Villa does not look so good tonight so far, maybe a bit of magic later…., but I want the Spanish to lose so cesc has a good holibobs – also, my hubby says he wants them to lose because they still Bull Fight – thats good enough for me too…..

  270. Abdenor says:

    Some of the comments were a bit distastefull, AW will prove them wrong and no………… i am not an AKB!

    Luca Toni is a waste of space, his finishing is woefull to say the least!

  271. Ja_Gunner says:

    This referee is af*****ckin idiot.

    Italy will be “lucky” in a major tournament once again.

    Three fouls by Italy not called…..

  272. Abdenor says:

    Here’s a fact for you, Spain have not beaten the Italians for 90 years,……….. Shocking!

  273. Abdenor says:

    What are the odds on Cesc coming on in the 2nd half and scoring the winner, his goal scoring record against the italians is v.good (Juventus & Milan).

    I can’t stand the italians either Ja_Gunner, i want them out!

  274. rico01 says:

    Ab – your view on the mighty boss…………… I just so hope you are right, I always used to believe in him and I want to again. This has to be the transfer season he gets it right again, he did it from 1996 – 2005, he can and surely will regain that cheeky cunning way in the transfer market…… if he does, then I for one will be so so happy…..

    Dont forget, i still think Villa is ours already……

  275. Abdenor says:

    I am with you Rico on Villa, he’s in the bag!………….. AW has no choice but to get it right as the pressure is on!
    I reckon he’ll deliver, he’s at his best when put under pressure.

  276. Abdenor says:

    Fabregas needs to come on, he’s better than the Barca twin midgets.

  277. Abdenor says:

    Villa looks a bit nervous…… shocking cross.

  278. rico01 says:

    Fabregas, his vision could be the thing that Spain miss right now, they need a precision pass, and Cesc can do that so very well..

    Torres is not having a good game… Dreadful pass!

  279. rico01 says:

    Here………………………………ssssssssssssss Cesc…………..

  280. rico01 says:

    So AW is in the crowd, not commentating!!!!!???????????
    Who is he watching then…… ?????

  281. Abdenor says:

    He looks very sharp.

  282. rico01 says:

    Didnt know the Italians have a motorcycle playing for them, is that not cheating…..

    Lambretta!!

  283. paul81 says:

    They showed arsene in the 1st half. He’s sitting in the stand next to zidane.

  284. Ja_Gunner says:

    Come on Spain…..

    Even if Spain go all the way, Cesc wont be tired he is being used a super sub, playing less than 45 mins per game, he wont be tired.

    Get those cheating boring Italians out!!!!!!

    hey dont deserve all this success with the type of uninspiring football they play.

  285. rico01 says:

    Italian cheats – Villa and Torres were naughty then!!

  286. Ja_Gunner says:

    Spain have to realise that they have to take advantage of counterattacks, they cant use their normal slow build up against the Italian 10 men behind the ball crap.

    They have attack with more pace , Villa and Torres both keep on running into heavy traffic with no where to go.

    They dont seem to be learning as the game goes on, they keep doing the same things. They have to change it up somehwat.

  287. Abdenor says:

    I second that Ja -…. Italy are really an awful team to watch, i don’t want to see anymore of them, they’re boring us to death!

  288. rico01 says:

    Hey Ab – Villa has been poor tinight, maybe a few million has been knocked off his price now, JaG – both teams are cheating at the moment…

  289. Abdenor says:

    Lucky boy Buffon…. lucky boy!

  290. Ja_Gunner says:

    What a shot by Senna!!!!

    Why are these damn Italians so lucky, that could easily crept in.

  291. Abdenor says:

    The deal has already been struck Rico!…….. or am i dreaming again.

  292. rico01 says:

    Reports in that Arshavin wants to go to Barca, bloody hell, why does everyone want to go to Barca??

  293. rico01 says:

    Ab. I think it has too, but i guess its only you and me who think that……

    cesc is playing well, he is running things in midfield

  294. Abdenor says:

    Haha…… Luca Toni is playing for Spain apparently……. i read that earlier Rico, they hard ball tactics me thinks.

  295. Abdenor says:

    *playing*

  296. GMR says:

    This game has just convinced me further how much I really wouldn’t want Wenger to waste money on Villa. There are far better strikers out there & I don’t think he’d really add much to what we already have.

  297. Ja_Gunner says:

    GMR if you say that about Villa, what would you say about Torres in this match?

  298. GMR says:

    I’m not basing it on one game though, I’ve been saying all along that I didn’t want Villa its just this game has brought it home even more. We know Torres is an exceptional player & he is a proven premier league player.

  299. Abdenor says:

    What about The Russia & Sweden games GMR?…… he was brilliant then.

  300. rico01 says:

    GMR – the game in general is Shite!! I wouldnt judge any players worth in this match..

    Arshavin to Barca……….. yes repeating myself, why why why……….

  301. paul81 says:

    Luca Toni couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo.

  302. rico01 says:

    Who is that Spanish No10 – AW, if you are watching, go and buy him, he is good!

  303. GMR says:

    I didn’t see those games as I was away, but lets be honest whether you like them or not Italy are a major step up from Russia or Sweden.

    rico, as I said I’m not judging him on this game, I’ve seen plenty of him this past season for Valencia & I really don’t think much of him.

  304. Abdenor says:

    They won’t need him Rico, They want Hleb, have the twin midgets and Deco!

    Where’s he going to fit in?

  305. Abdenor says:

    Who would you replace Ade with if does go GMR?…… there’s no many top forwards around.

  306. TREZE13 says:

    WOO WENGER IS IN THE CROWD………..could only mean one thing WERE SIGNING DAVID VILLA WOOOO………………………..sigh its so hard to be optimistic lately :(

  307. maqitlarge says:

    If Arshavin wants to go to Barca he should play for Arsenal first. That way they’ll notice him…

  308. GMR says:

    To replace Ade I’d go with Eto.

  309. Abdenor says:

    Fair enough mate but there will be huge question mark over his fitness……. sure he’s a better striker but will be a gamble imo.

  310. rico01 says:

    At least Eto knows where the goal is…………….

  311. rico01 says:

    Im off – bored now with the match, nite nite all, sleep tight!

  312. Abdenor says:

    Villa looks very very nervous, can’t even hold the ball up,…… needs to relax mate

  313. Abdenor says:

    Good night Rico

  314. Ja_Gunner says:

    Oh how I hate Italy.

    10 men behind the ball the whole game with just a couple counterattacks.

    Right now they want to go to penalties. They dont have the balls to try to win it.

  315. Ja_Gunner says:

    Cheaters!!!!!! The Italians keep holding up the game.

    Geez

    I agree with Andy Gray, this ref is letting Italy get away with murder.

  316. Abdenor says:

    Dreadful game and Italy have a lot to do with it, We can also cross Mertesacker off the list …..

    http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/06/22/Bundesliga-Mertesacker-pens-new-Werder-deal/

  317. Ja_Gunner says:

    FAbregass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  318. Abdenor says:

    It takes guts to put that in and Cescy boy has it in abundance, good on you Cesc!

    Italy out!!!!!!!

  319. Ja_Gunner says:

    Spain deserve this one!!!!

    Go home you cowardly Italians.

    They didnt even try to win the game in extra time.

    I hate them!!!!!!!!!1

  320. Ja_Gunner says:

    Hey the group of death is DEAD!!!!!!!!!

    If Holland and France are home..then certainly Italy didnt deserve to
    go any further.

  321. Confidentgoner says:

    Cesc did hold his head to score that penalty. Well done !

    Villa was really not impressive and Tores did not have a good game. Not sure if Villa can give prem defenders a hard time as Ade does. There is more to Ade than people give him credit for.. Ask Terry. or Rio Ferdinand.

    Eduardo is a better striker than Villa. Ashravin for me anyday!

  322. Ja_Gunner says:

    I am so happy for Fabregas!!!

  323. paul81 says:

    I wish i wasn’t in moderation. The more you look at fabregas the more you realise what a captain he could be.

  324. Confidentgoner says:

    Villa’s value just went down to pre Euro figures.

  325. Ja_Gunner says:

    Even though Ade isnt the best technically.

    His size and work rate make up for it…….Rio and John Terry fear him. I think the reason why he misses so much is because he always puts himself in good positions..as opposed to Torres who can be nowhere in a match and then pop and score his only chance.

    So I say for the sake of stability we should keep Ade…he should get a chance to prove that the season was not a fluke.

    If he fails along the way next season then he could simply be benched. I dont think Bendter is a good replacement for Ade because even tho he is bigger than Ade he does not use his body the same way, he is more a finesse player so for ppl who say they are same type of player because of their similar size…they are wrong.

    We cant afford to lose 3 first team players. Flamini is gone and I think we should let Hleb go and bring in Arshavin as replacement, Nasri for the future and give Cesc a break.

    We would therefore retain 9 first team players which gives us some stabilty.

  326. Ja_Gunner says:

    Nasri is for the future and to give Cesc some rest.

    If Diaby can improve the defensive part of his game then he should be the one to take over for Flamini.

    Maybe we could use him in more open games(against weaker teams) and then use a more defensive minded player(Gilberto) for tight games until Diaby or someone else takes over full time.

  327. Ja_Gunner says:

    I think getting rid of Hleb for Arshavin is a no brainer, we could use Hlebs fee to get him…

    Then again I am not Arsene nor the board… I have no idea what they are thinking.

    I know Arsene may not like Arshavins age 27…. but thats the reason we should get him because he will make an immediate impact..until Nasri and the rest mature.

  328. patthegooner says:

    I would like Arse-shavin and Nasri, it will give us the ability to rotate and options on the bench that we have been missing,

  329. patthegooner says:

    Right I am off to my bed

    Hoping for a good week in the Transfer Market :)

    Lets see where we are this time next week

  330. Confidentgoner says:

    Good points Ja-Gunner.

    As it stands now Ade is our best striker. Am not talking about potential here but am basing on past performance. To loose him will be a big step back. How many strikers can play the lone striker role? Not many..We should get Ashravin, plus 1 CBs and one DM who will share duties with Diaby.

    Gilberto may sadly have to be dropped.

  331. Geoff says:

    Paul… you are forever out of moderation.

  332. paul81 says:

    Many Thanks Geoff.

  333. A says:

    ja nasri will play out wide, he’s signed to share the roaming playmaker role with hleb and rosicky. Arshavin’s age is what worries me. It isn’t a players age that means he has to adapt to the premiership, it’s how different the league is from most other leagues. Especially the russian league, which is incredibly different to the prem. Arshavin would sign at 27/28, and not settle into the prem until 28/29/30. That’s too late IMO to be a good asset for the money he’d cost. Confident i disagree about ade – VP is our best striker in my opinion.

  334. MeM says:

    My input for today will be to tell everyone that Eto’o is not a World Class striker and is infact more crocked than Rosicky and Van persie. He has an awful temperment and has an ego that not even the great Arsene Wenger could curb. He will demand a starting place even if he is off form. Cry and go on strike. He will disrupt the team spirit and will overall have a negative impact on the team.

    David Villa and Arshavin is the way to go.

  335. MeM says:

    A – Van persie is our best striker but Arshavin would not take two years to adapt. Thats just rubbish. Torres took three days, Eduardo three months.

  336. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    gnarleygeorge9 says:June 22, 2008, 9.11 a.m

    “Your legendary amarda got shat on by Drakey, just come to terms with it, The English have looked down on you ever since”.

    I appologise to the Spanish with this call. This young 21st century version has been well crafted, @ with the ability to bring on a player like Cesc just shows the quality Spain has. GG9 was a pratt.

    Anyway, moving on. How great an advertisement for The Arsenal. Come all you stars who might want to play with the 21st century North London supremos. Look @ the star quality The Gunners have in mid field. SIGN UP! SIGN UP! Oh, & Ade, don’t leave.

  337. ethangunner says:

    MY TEAM ARE STILL IN IT :)
    SPAIN !!

    I knew i should of put some money on it !
    dam ! too late now id never get the odds !

    patthegooner Says:
    June 22, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Good to see you have a rant !
    At least your getting with the program .
    I would go to far as saying our club is in crisis !
    Too many players leaving the 1st 11 for it not too affect our game this season !
    loosing hleb and flamini is a real kick in the nuts , even though you all might not think of them as productive , they were the foundation for ade to look good !

    Not sure why you give him the credit ! , he needed the lost players to make it past the defense as ade couldnt get past a single defender with the ball at his feet !
    I tried to remember someone he beat ! A la TH14 ?! and i cant think of a single time all season ! he relied on theo and hleb , mainly cesc to slot the passes in to the 6 yard box !

    Hate him or not , ade + hleb flamini jens diarra etc .. are a lot of experience to loose when your trying to keep the team together pat !!! I hope we get some serious replacements , id even say nasri isn’t tested ! he didn’t hardly feature in France’s team , which tells me HE STILL ISNT READY , not compared to the likes who we saw on the pitch malouda , ribbery etc … Im sure there are good things to come from him , but at 1st he might be ordinary !!! And definitely not in the starting 11 surely ?

    Its going to be another year of disappointment !

    Ground hog day !!!

  338. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Footnote re Arshavin.

    The thing about Guus is he gets his teams super fit, & is big on being totally organised. Different plans for different situations. He is a Dutch Master when it comes to tactics.

    Which brings me to Arshavin. It is my opinion that the reason for his skyrocketing to star status is due to Guus, not Dick Ardvaak. So if he were to go to Barca, he would be treated as just another cog in their wheel. If Arshavin came to The Emirates, a football genius like AW would continue Arshavins development (hope I don’t sound too AKB, but AW does know his footy). After this tournament, Guus will lose interest with Russia, & Arshavin could just disappear into football oblivion.

    So Arshavin and/or your agent. Do you want the money or become an imortal. @ Arsenal you can have both, @ Barca you will be treated as just another player.

  339. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    I hope Big frank isn’t getting ahead of himself here, but bring it on.

    http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=747583

  340. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Get out the disposable razors & lather up your bum everyone, He could be coming!

    http://www.soccernews.com/arshavin-move-to-arsenal-back-on/3500/

  341. rico01 says:

    morning all,

    if we are to believe The Sun newspaper, Nasri will finally end his transfer saga and sign today/tomorrow and then off for a 3 week holiday prior to pre-season, and we are holding out for 32M for Ade.

    Dont want to see players leave, but 32M?? Just think what AW could do with that…
    He would buy a whole new team,

    How would we spend the money??

  342. rico01 says:

    gnarley, apparently Arshavin wants to go to Barca, seems everyone does.

    I think it is because of the pubs/clubs etc, at THOF Aw does not allow that kind of behaviour, are Ade and Hleb party animals??

  343. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Rico,

    That was the first time I had a good look @ Villa. To me he looks comparable to Eduardo, so we have that spot filled. But Ade’s don’t come round that often. I’m still not convinced about Nick B to be able to carry the necessary load to win the Title this coming season. Later in his career maybe, but not now.

  344. rico01 says:

    gnarley – i think the problem is, Villa burst into Euros with his 3 goals against Russia, and we all went WOW get him, but I agree he is similar to Dudu – and he hasnt got a lot of pace. I am not convinced about Nik either but got shouted at earlier on in the year when I expressed that. he did well in Championship, but hasnt quite sparked in EPL.
    What we need is another Ian Wright, nose for goal and scores. If Ade goes, it will be a shame because he could become a hero at Arsenal, I just think his weaknesses will be exposed at somewhere like Barca – but Hleb, well I think his agent has left him no choice but to leave..

  345. rico01 says:

    Saying that though, I still wouldnt be surprised if Aw has nabbed him already….

  346. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Is there a post today? I thought I saw somewhere that Geoff might not do one until the season proper.

  347. Joaquin says:

    I would be surprised if there wasn’t. How do you feel about Roque wanting a move to arsenal?

  348. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Is that Santa Cruz. Not too sure about that one.

  349. Joaquin says:

    George, Santa Cruz doesn’t really excite me as much as some other potential targets, but he is solid and another big man. He could help fill the void left by Ade with he and Niki B stepping in.
    http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=186783

  350. Geoff says:

    Have no fear Gnarley, it was in response to being told not to listen to gossip, just fact, I’m writing as we speak, so to speak!

  351. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Joaquin. Just read about Santa Cruz. Is he worth £12m?

  352. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Good one Geoff :D

  353. MeM says:

    I see this as our team next season. And our squad. Im free for a bit. i can waste my time…

    Almunia/Fabianski/Mannone

    Sagna/Hoyte
    Gallas/Song/Senderos
    Toure/Djourou
    Clichy/Traore/Pedro

    Walcott/Ramsey/Eboue
    Fabregas/Denilson
    Yaya/Diaby/Gilberto
    Nasri/Rosicky

    Van Persie/Bendtner
    Vela/Eduardo/New Striker

    I cannot see us signing Villa. I would love it, but he will not come to us I feel. After him, there is nobody realistically who is better than the ones we have. I really rate Vela so I would not be surprised to see him and Van Persie starting up fornt in pre season. The guy could break Henry’s goal scoring record and I am very convinced on that. if he stays until he is 32, he will be a true Legend.

  354. MeM says:

    Im going to re-post this after a bit of editing in the new blog-post.

  355. gunner_fever says:

    cant wait for today’s post geoff

  356. Evo in OZ says:

    domingo

  357. Geoff says:

    It’s going up soon boys.

  358. Evo in Oz says:

    looking forward to it bro

  359. Evo in Oz says:

    Zidane tips ronaldae for Real…Good!

  360. Geoff says:

    New Post!

  361. Joshwaaa says:

    Nasri has signed!!! Go on every website except Arsenal.com (lol) where theres a quote from the now offline samirnasri.fr, which is nasri’s official website :)

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