Sorry for the misleading headline, I just wanted to get you here…
Just kidding.
Thanks to the vigilant blogger who goes by the name of Gooner02… we have our first decent defender link of the summer!
Per Mertesacker, the 6ft 6 German international defender has revealed on his own personal website that his dream club is Arsenal, don’t believe me?
‘Arsenal ist mein Lieblingsverein in England. Es ist sicherlich ein Traum, dort mal zu spielen.’
Don’t speak German? Buffoons! Here’s a translation.
‘Arsenal is my favourite club in England. It is certainly a dream to play there some time. ‘
I like the cut of this boys jib!
What did you think when you heard about Cashley and Jermaine?
Anyway, that is good news right? He is what we need? A beast in the air, a German international (43 caps), Champions league experience, 23 years old, played 41 games last season… sign him up Arsene, you’ll love him! Look at his hobbies for Christ sake!
‘If I have spare time, then I go to the cinema. I like to meet with friends.’
Isn’t that sweet? Can you imagine John Terry’s hobby list reading like that?
We don’t need Zapata, he’s the same size as what we have, we need an animal in there, also we need players that want to come, Villa and now this boy, not little shits we have to beg, like you know who, don’t get me wrong, I rate Nasri, but we are Arsenal and shouldn’t have to beg anyone.
We seem to be entering into a period of player power, Hleb, Henry and now Ronaldo, they want to go, and they get their wish, we need to clamp down on this, before it kills the game.
Anyway on the subject of Germans and all that is German, how about this for interesting.
- The Germans have the most profitable league in the world. Fact.
- The Bundesliga has the most players going to Euro 2008. Fact.
- Bayern Munich spent a shed load of money in the summer to get back to the top, and it worked. Fact.
Do you know what else Bayern do? They fuse corporate with hardcore. No I don’t mean a sophisticated porn movie, I am talking about fans.
Arsenal, take note.
The average season ticket in Germany costs 600 Euros, very affordable to most middle class people. The Germans though, understand that a lot of football fans are working class, so they subsidise their certain tickets and put them in the ‘Hardcore’ end of the ground (Behind the goals). The reduced rate of the ticket is subsidised by the corporate companies who sign up for hospitality.
What a good idea! Corporates, families and working class fans all getting along at a successful club!
Could that work at Arsenal? Could this format ‘Bring back the noise’?
Let me know in the comments section!
Happy Friday Grovers!
Why didn’t we loan him out… if we sold him for £5million… and now he is worth £10million, isn’t that bad business?
rico01 or you could just re-mortgage the house for Club Level seats and skip the waiting list!
My cousins sit in the West upper and I sit in the NW corner and the atmosphere is way better… …but the stares we get for signing ias well worth it.
I have had 8 complaints in the last two years and am looking on improving on that tally this season… ….saw one bloke reading the Sunday paper during the game and another using his blackberry!
It is shocking… …the only way I really enjoy the game is away, which is a bit sad.
Milan was awesome
Wandarah
The club dropped the ball with Flamini for sure, but I reckon he was never going to sign again at Arsenal regardless.
Oh he would of done .. but arsenal needed to ante UP !
just like ade .. if he wants more cash .. sorry pal your transfer listed ,
ade is doing a jerry mcguire !
SHOW ME THE MON AAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!
and arsene says ive got my own saying
THERES THE DOOOOOOOOR !
loved your plants in the garden spiel(brilliant ! ) .
BUT ITS MORE LIKE
it’s like removing the most expensive tree in the garden and SELLING THE CUNT ! so all the pretty flowers get more sunlight and can bloom.SO you can sell those fuckers too next season ! Soon youll be known as a nursery …
We certainly did better without him this year.
you mean ade ? in lieu of the best striker to EVER grace the earth
at Arsenal ?
listen TH14 was frustrated with 19 year old players around him … they are better now
and wenger wouldnt re- new his contract over the DD affair at that time !
he said later that DD leaving shook him up and he considered leaving ..
Wenger came clean in a RARE ! interview !
my guess is TH14 spoke with arsene and arsene didnt re-assure him !
So he left .. Or his wife problems , but regardless he’s gone ..
and our front line thru injury or ade was a MESS ! ..
sure he got some goals under his belt . someone had to score em !
no other fucker was fit long enough to make a name for themselves !
Also 1 thing to consider about diarra .. bert was gone to the copa !
flamini up until this season was crap , wenger got diarra to play 4 a reason!
im sure before the starting season kick off wenger bet on diarra ending the season as our number 1 DM player ..
flamini supprised us & hung on to his spot and wenger was made too look a lair ..
diarra wanted what he was promised , he said so…. too play !
2 years of splinters on chevski’s bench was enough for him !
A footballer that just wants to play ! fuck me we could do with one of them now ! every mug at AFC wants money 1st
just speak to hill-wood !
he’ll put you straight on that !
It aint bad business if we make a profit selling a guy who lacks any testicles whatsoever. All it means is that Pompey also made good bussiness on the deal.
yes bad business, back to work
Keep up the good work Pedro and Geoff
He is a French international… I think he has balls.
I just don’t see why we needed to sell him… was it purely based on character? Or do we just let anyone go if they want to?
Cheers Gunner 8
Pedro
Wenger “I did explain when he joined that he might have to be patient, and he acknowledged it, but he couldn’t cope with the situation, and also did not want to go on loan anywhere either.”
I know… I read that… but so what?
Ok… you don’t want to go on loan… you stay in the reserves…
What would he have done?
As i’m off work next week i won’t be able to post any jokes next Friday…. so while i’m here….
An Irishman walks into a bar in Dublin, orders three pints of Guinness and sits in the back of the room, drinking a sip out of each one in turn. When he finished all three, he comes back to the bar and orders three more.
The bartender says to him, “You know, a pint goes flat after I draw it; it would taste better if you bought one at a time.” The Irishman replies, “Well, you see, I have two brothers. One is in America, the other in Australia, and I’m here in Dublin. When we all left home, we promised that we’d drink this way to remember the days we all drank together.”
The bartender admits that this is a nice custom, and leaves it there. The Irishman becomes a regular in the bar and always drinks the same way: he orders three pints and drinks the three pints by taking drinks from each of them in turn.
One day, he comes in and orders two pints. All the other regulars in the bar notice and fall silent. When he comes back to the bar for the second round, the bartender says, “I don’t want to intrude on your grief, but I wanted to offer my condolences on your great loss.”
The Irishman looks confused for a moment, then a lights dawns in his eye and he laughs. “Oh, no,” he says, “Everyone is fine. I’ve just quit drinking!”
haha, nice one Goonerjay!
I didn’t get your Le Grove holiday request form?
If he refused to play in the carling he wouldn’t have played for the reserves (and he would have held up there progress)
He is good mates with Diaby and perhaps others so he was a bad apple we were better of rid of him.
If everyone in the Arsenal squad had his attitude we would have a squad of eleven.
If we dropped him for the season he wouldn’t have gone to Euro 2008 at all. I think he would have seen the light.
Drogba went to milan to discuss a move to milan… he lied to chelsea, so Jose rang him up, bollocked him, accused him being brought up badly… then put him in the reserves.
He soon learnt his lesson…
SEEMS LIKE NOBODY IS READING THE LINK SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE GRAVITY OF ARTICLE…. I COPY PASTE IT FROM ARSENALINSIDER
Sky news was reporting yesterday comments from Arsene Wenger that the transfer of Samir Nasri from Marseille to the club was delayed because of wage demands. So we can safely assume that the Board blocked those demands, at the risk of losing the player. Wasn’t it Danny Fiszman who said on 27th of May, “We will fully support Arsene’s transfer plans…” Arsene Wenger only implements the Wage Structure and Budget put in place by the Board.
Yesterday Peter Hill-Wood was quoted by the Daily Telegraph as having said to the Daily Star
“Before they played for the love of the game and the love of the club. Nowadays, a lot of people sign four-year contracts and you heave a sigh of relief. Six months later they come marching in saying they want double the wages. The only answer is to tell them they are on that contract and that’s it. Unless you do that, the game will be come chaotic and descend into anarchy. I think there are very few people who have really got the tradition of the club at heart. You can name them on one hand. Actually, I can’t name them on one hand and that’s the real pity.
“In the old days money was not the driving force. Nobody was greedy. People weren’t motivated by the money. Everyone has become much more materialistic. I think that is one of the reasons why Arsene signs younger players. Ok, they will probably walk out in five years but at least he has the opportunity to mould them. But some of the so-called stars have got their own ideas about what should happen and don’t always agree with what we think.”
So greedy players tut tut!
But without the players, the Club would not be successful… but don’t take my word for it, Peter Hill-Wood said in the 2007 Financial report to the Board:
“The Group’s income is affected by the performance and popularity of the first team. Significant sources of revenue are derived from strong performances in the FAPL, FA Cup and UEFA Champions League (or UEFA Cup) and the level of income will vary dependent upon the team’s participation and performance in these competitions.
A significant amount of the Group’s income is derived from ticket sales to individual and corporate supporters who attend matches involving the first team at Emirates Stadium and elsewhere. The level of attendance may be influenced by a number of factors including the level of success of the team, admission prices, broadcasting coverage and general economic conditions.”
So the success of Arsenal Football Club is as much in the hands of the Players and Arsene Wenger, as it is dependent upon the guidance and management by the Board. So If we are losing our best players and failing to complete deals because of the Board imposed wage structure, how are we the fans to react to promises and statements that imply any player that Arsene wants he gets, but as in the case of Samir Nasri not quite?
Here are the most Expensive Player Transfers in English Football – up to August 2006
Not a single Arsenal player! But it hasn’t always been like this. Arsenal featured in the Top 10 Most Expensive Player Transfers in English Football During 2004 with the Transfer of Jose Antonia Reyes from Sevilla.
*Reyes may have cost an extra £6.5 million depending on appearances, but some of that will have recouped following his loan spell to Real Madrid and His eventual transfer to Athletico Madrid.
Again the usual suspects of Chelsea, ManU etc who tend win the Premiership titles or Champions League, all of course except for The Arsenal of late, could there be a connection, that top flight transfers help clubs win the Champions League? certainly the Champions League income helps the relevant big clubs maintain their revenues…
Top 10 Money Earning Clubs in Champions League 2004/05
So the Club earns a healthy income from it’s participation in the Champions League, plus the ability to attract players of a high quality to the club. Is the current wage structure down to failure of the club to make big earnings? Remember that this Board has presided over the most successful Stadium building project without harming the fortunes of the club financially. It was delivered on time and on budget. A fact that I thank the Board for in general and Keith Edelman in particular.
But let’s have a look at the profitability of the club…
Financial Overview of Arsenal Football Club
*Arsenal had to set aside £11million due to the result of a financial investigation by the Inland Revenue and Customs that discovered that tax avoidance at Arsenal Football club was one of the methods use in order to keep pay top players good salaries, the Revenue found that this was not all above board. This came following the high profile divorce of an Arsenal Player, when the player’s wages and tax paid were for the first time brought into the open.
Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood said in response to the action,
‘The Revenue are crawling all over us. We thought we had acted perfectly legally … but now maybe the rules have changed. We are not the only people who have been doing this.’
Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour. was forced to disclose his salary details to the Divorce courts, and it showed that he earned a pre-tax package of £1,557,267(30K per week) for the 2001-2 season on which he paid £350,000 tax, a rate of just 22 per cent.
It is said that top Arsenal players usually receive two contracts. One pays them an annual basic wage mostly taxed at the higher rate of 40 per cent plus national insurance. They also have a second ’shadow’ contract for performance-related bonuses that reward success on the pitch (and therefore may not pay as much this season). In a more successful year these can account for up to half of the total pay package and are paid via two offshore front companies that accountants say enables foreign players to avoid almost all tax.
As a result, Henry is estimated to have saved almost £70,000 a year, manager Arsene Wenger about £118,000 annually, and Dennis Bergkamp more than £45,000. British-born players were able to cut their tax rate from 40 per cent to 25 per cent.
Arsenal are right to state that they are not alone because Premiership clubs in general are worried that it will become harder to attract top foreign players to Britain when they can still benefit from tax-free payments abroad.
Champions League Income for 2006 was 24.2 million up from 15.9 million in 2005 and at the same time Player trading profits for 2005 were 2.5millon and rose to 19.2 million in 2006 So Arsene Wenger has done his bit for the club in maintaining and indeed adding to the profits, so surely it’s time to give some back?
Is this approach to living within our means reflected at Board level? I have been critical of this Board for failing in my view to fund big transfers and pay the going rate in players wages, a view not popular with some Arsenal traditionalist fans. I maintain that there are double standards in place but what is my evidence for this?
The Daily Mail reviewed the wages of every profession/trade in the UK in order to test the accusation that fat cat Directors in Boardrooms were helping themselves to a rising bonanza. The 16% increase for 2004-05 follows a 13% rise for the previous year and 23% the year before that. Average earnings are rising at 4.1% and the average annual salary is £22,060. An average chief executive is paid 113 times more than an average UK worker. UK average wage = 28,210
Ranked 1 were Company Directors whose average pay totalled £171,509, more than twice the salary of the second rank of Medical Consultants on £80,000. Hospital Consultants maintain the well being of the many,whereas Company Directors save the financial wellbeing of the privileged few their shareholders and themselves. (The figures did not include the commission of the million pound bonuses paid to the Brokers and Bankers within the Square mile of the Commercial Stock Market where workers have been awarded £13.2bn in bonuses so far this year)
In 2007 It was reported that City boardroom pay had topped £1bn for the first time with the average chief executive taking home nearly £3m. Bosses now take home 98 times more than their employees, up from 93 times a year ago. But fat-cat pay is continuing to rise and for 2005-06, pay rates for top executives rose at 28 per cent, an increase of 16 per cent on the previous year.
Arsenal’s Board of Directors do not take Share Dividends to their credit, and even though Ken Friar disclosed that the future payment of Share dividends had been discussed by the Board and not ruled out, they do pay themselves the going rate and pay the going rate in terms of percentage pay increase.
David Dein’s salary in the last two years rose from £250,000 to £315,000,(13% increase) Whilst CEO Keith Edelman is quoted to have received before bonuses and pension benefits of £652,000 up from £577,000 the year before. He is quoted to be earning £1,000,000 in this final 12 months as a consultancy to enable a smooth handover to the next CEO.
David McNally who left Fulham on 3rd of june and widely tipped to become the new CEO at the Arsenal can expect to become one of the highest paid Football CEO’s in the Premiership, because as the Head Hunting recruitment firms will tell The Arsenal, there is a “market rate” and if you want the best, then you must provide the best remuneration packages. Put simply the age old adage, “If you pay peanuts, you get Monkeys…”
Contrast the refusal to break the rigid wage structure with the breaking news in the Gazzetta Dello Sport yesterday that Arsenal football are reported to be asking AC Milan to agree to a £32 million(40million Euros) price tag for Emmanuel Adebayor, So Arsenal know the going market rate for selling players it seems.
So coming back to the main point of this blog today, a day of judgement that was defined by Arsenal Football club, I spoke to the Press office last week who confirmed what Ken Friar had said in the meeting with Arsenal Supporters Trust last month, that they had set a target of all transfer dealings to be completed prior to the start of the Euros, because of the risk of player wage and price inflation based on good performances.
Arsene Wenger said on 17th May to Arsecom
“I think that a huge player is better than a huge name, you have huge names who produce very little at the moment. There is plenty of demand from players who want to join us and what we need next year is two or three maybe”
So Arsenal Football Club and Arsene Wenger set the rules that will see either many Arsenal fans elated or frustrated today. If frustrated, could it be seen as a breach of trust by the fans who state with passionate conviction “Trust in Arsene Wenger” ?
Mayank, can you expand a bit more on your point?
Agreed Paulinho… that was a bit too vague?
I agree but take the Man U Ronaldo situation the Glaziers want to sit him on the bench to teach him a lesson, If you was Kaka or someone would you join a club like that or
join one you could walk all over.
Chelsea can attract big players because they pay BIG wages we do it on a shoestring so we have to pamper to the players needs.
Hill Wood yesterday didn’t want to pamper to the players needs and he got a slating yesterday.
The Hillwood thing was different, he was saying we wont pay high wages, so we’ll lose players. He said we buy them young becuase they are cheap.
ManU are making a stance…
Players like Ronaldo will still always want to go there, they might think twice about signing a 5 year contract if their intentions are only one year.
is that the short version ?
The Bundesliga is a good league but if thats what fans want they’ll have to accept the same mindframe as German fans and Arsenal fans would never do that, because Arsenal only want the best players. This is why the Bundesliga is successful:
1. The Bundesliga spend a huge amount on spider webs of scouting networks all over Europe and the world, they pay closer attention to leagues that English fans know nothing about and would probably consider shit….but there is some good shit…every good player has got to start somewhere right? Thats how the Germans think, and they’ll buy a hot shot from Romanian league 2 if their scouts have judged him to have excellent potential.
2. Just like Wenger they wait until the last minute, not announcing they’re interested in a player…then pounce on the market in the last minute and try and lock up a deal. This prevents them from being outbid by other clubs taking a gamble on the quality of their scouting network without them having to look at them himself.
3. They get cheap prices, they don’t get involved in price wars, they compile lists on players to try and get, once it gets too expensive they go onto the next player.
4.Once they’ve trained these players with EXCELLENT potential, they sell them for big profits, then go back to step 1.
A continual loop. And German fans accept the loss of their brightest, they understand how it all works. So the aim is always to get the most telented young players in Germany, not ready made big shots. German teams have academies as well, and they don’t try and price out their competitors, they get the best talent they can afford, hire the best coaches….and get some stars on the cheap.
So yes the German league is very efficient, lots of rising stars there, which is why they earn so much when selling, they go for CHEAP and EXCELLENT potential, their education is very systematic, which is why their coaches get regular results. They can’t always finish players off to Premier League standards, but they’re good players which title winners all over Europe will happily bid millions for. And that’s Wengers idea too…but he only wants a very limited crop, only those with grade A+ potential, he won’t gamble with grade B+ or A, other clubs get those cheaper and some of ‘em turn out A+.
Finest, nice points… but I’ve read wenger say that he will buy 5 youngsters and hope 1 will make it.
ITV2 Theo is on celebraty mr and mrs now. back soon!
Im with Wandarah on the Diarra thing.
What do Kolo, Gael (especially Gael), Manuel, Cesc, RVP, Ade, Eddie, Eboue, Theo, Nicky B, Big Phil, Denilson, and Flamini have in common? They all had to earn (or still have to earn) their place in the starting XI. Of the current squad, only Hleb, Sagna and Willy (and arguably Tommy, its hard to know) walked into the 1st XI upon signing. Sagna showed straight away that he was The Shit. Also, our current right backs weren’t great. Hleb was bought to replace a legend (Bob). Willy is a rarity… a proven 50+ caps world class player when we signed him. Even Henry and Bob had to earn their place, all those years ago. Is Diarra so special that he should just walk right in? 100% nope…
And Flam… well, for the first 2 years Flam was pretty garbage. I remember feeling distinctly worried if Flam’s name was on the teamsheet. He did a good job at left back for a bit and showed tenacity which he hadnt previously shown in centre midfield. A perennial sub. Following that, he had another average year before his breakout year in his final season. Leading up to that, 3 very average years. There wouldve been a bit of uproar on the blogs if we’d given him another 4 years at £50-60k based on those guff seasons. He was brilliant for us in his last year, but he held all the aces by then with the Bosman, and he played his hand well. Cant argue with it…
He was good for a year, but I dont think a centre midfield pairing of flam and cesc would ever win the league. He isnt worth a jumbo contract. Cesc and Yaya on the other hand….
ITV2 plus 1 sorry.
mayank – did you get into trouble at school often and made to write essays of more than 1000000000 words!!
Ethan, when you say “they are coming out and saying he has joined them” do you mean the clubs website has announced it as such or is it attributed to quotes from “sources close to the club” ? And by “they” you mean AC rather than the Daily Telegraph presumably.
If AC have said it then yes Adebayor should refute it, but if it’s not then I won’t get hysterical about hack-generatedd fabrication.
Yeah that’s right Pedro….for Premier League level you need 5 A+ players, and you get the best to compete with the best meaning you get the best of the best, which is why Wenger has mentioned that there are over 200 players who want to join Arsenal, ie. 200+ A+ potential candidates who know they’re being scouted by Arsenal. Thats a very small pool, 200 A+ players, there will be some bidding wars there. There will always be teams interested in players we want to buy because they have excellent potential, which is also why it’s so difficult to buy them, because there will be clubs prepared to get into price wars. Only if you really, really want a player should you get into a price war, someone A++ …. and that’s exactly what happens with Arsenal…
Breaking on SSN – Dos Dantos to Spurs, fee agreed!!
Hey Guys
I posted about Per Mertesacker a while ago,
I work with Germans and they rave about him and say he would be perfect for Arsenal.
I fear though that if he was on Wengers hit list we would have been linked by now. hopefully he will arrive as a bit of an unknown like Eduardo,
News on Ade!?
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_3657287,00.html
thats the quote from the other week when milan first said they were interested, i think
Cheers James hence the question mark.
Hi everyone, I’m back any news?
Afternoon Geoff…
According to Setanta… we’ve bid for Caen winger Gouffran. Ramsay is thinking about a move over the weekend and we are in for the Wolves Keeper.
Oh, wenger took time out of his schedule to talk about Euro 2008…
No Mention of all the players that want to leave.
sorry david, i broke my glasses earlier so i’m struggling to read most of this! i was wondering about that quote when i frist read it though
Typical, a young winger that no one has heard of, he said we would all be pleased!
my god is there so little to talk about in the press……
#A top Chelsea source has been quoted in an English tabloid saying that Arsene Wenger has now emerged as their top target to become Chelsea manager next season.
Wenger, who is said to be mulling the deal, signed a new deal at Arsenal for three more years only in August.
The top Chelsea source stated: “Wenger has now moved to the top of our list as we have missed out on everybody that we’ve contacted till now.”
He went on to say, “Wenger has the pedigree to do well at Chelsea and has had the world set alight with the beautiful football that Arsenal play so Mr. Abramovich wants him to lead our project for the next five seasons.”
It has been stated that Wenger will receive a whopping forty-million pounds over the five seasons.
Wenger, currently on a holiday in Italy is said to be mulling over the offer. One of his closest friends told the tabloid, “Arsene finds it somewhat monotonous at Arsenal and wants a new challenge.”
When asked what the new challenge would be, his friend replied, “Well, he has to make Chelsea win everything, doesn’t he? Otherwise, he’ll get sacked! That will spur him on. Pressure gets the best out of Arsene—we all know that.”
If Arsenal do lose their manager, they will demand a thirty-million pound compensation package and they have tentatively lined up French coach Frederick Renaissance to take them through yet another new era under a relatively unknown coach.
When asked whom Chelsea would turn to if Wenger rejected them, the source replied, “The logical choice would then be Sir Alex Ferguson—Mr. Abramovich likes him a lot too.”
david.. that was a quote from a long time ago.. after he left for africa!!
ha ha nice one chris!!
so our pre emirates deal comes back to bit us
Arsenal’s cut-price shirt deal with Nike has put paid to a revolutionary element in their marketing agreement with the Colorado Rapids. The two clubs executed a tie-up last February that was due to lead to the Major League Soccer side changing its name to Arsenal Colorado. The American club, which belongs to Stan Kroenke, a 12.19% Arsenal shareholder, had designed a badge. But Adidas, which has a deal with the MLS to supply shirts for every club in the league, is understood to have put a stop to the development over its concerns of a commercial conflict.
lol arsenal colorado!!!
hahah
Hey, talking of shirt deals… I am the only one who really dislikes the new kit?
Very boring…
Can’t they get some imagination at Nike…?
This Gooofffran geezer is a midfielder, scored ten goals last season and many assists, has the pace of Henry – quite a player i hear….!!
Sam and Bessie are senior citizens, and Sam has always wanted an expensive pair of alligator cowboy boots. Seeing them on sale one day, he buys a pair and wears them home, asking Bessie, “So, do you notice anything different about me?”
“What’s different? It’s the same shirt you wore yesterday and the same pants.”
“What’s different?” Frustrated, Sam goes into the bathroom, undresses and comes out completely naked, wearing only his new boots. Again he says, “Bessie, do you notice anything different?”
“What’s different, Sam? It’s hanging down today; it was hanging down yesterday and will be hanging down again tomorrow.”
Angrily, Sam yells, “Do you know why it’s hanging down? ‘Cause it’s looking at my new boots!!”
Bessie replies, “You shoulda bought a hat!”
Pedro – I don’t like the new kit and neither do my 2 boys, who usually like anything if it means they can buy something.
The new kit looks like a Charlton Pathetic kit from a coupla seasons ago, the Addicks will probably be saying that the woolwich wnaderers have nicked their kit.
Also why are we changing the awaykit the seson after the new one was brought in ?
Oops, shoulda known – money grabbing/fan exploiting AFC again.
I going to agree with you on thet one Pedro, Arsenal shirts should be red with white sleeves not a mixture of both,
Have you seen the keepers it’s go a double bend sign on it?
beach bum will be looking the part surely!!!
haha, nice one GoonerJay… keep em coming!
Normally you look at a new kit and you go… wow… that is different.
I looked at the new kit and thought I’d picked up a copy of the 2001 merchandise catalogue. The current kit is lovely.
I haven’t seen pics of the yellow one, but you are right… was there any need?
Am I right in thinking our deal with kits is on a reduced up front fee because we take a commission on the shirts?
Three Australians and three Englishmen are going to a football match. At the train station, the three Australians each buy a single and watch as the three Englishmen buy just one ticket between them.
“How are the three of you going to travel on only one ticket?” asks one of the Australians. “Watch and learn,” answers one of the Englishmen. They all board the train. The Australians take their respective seats but all three Englishmen cram into a loo and close the door behind them. Shortly after the train has departed the conductor arrives to collect the tickets. He knocks on the loo door and says, “Ticket please.”
The door opens slightly and a single arm emerges with a ticket in hand. The conductor takes it and moves on. The Australians are mightily impressed, and after the game, to save money, they decide to repeat the Englishmen’s trick. When they get to the station, they buy a single ticket for the return trip. To their astonishment, however, the Englishmen don’t buy a ticket at all.
“How are you going to travel without a ticket?” asks one perplexed Australian.
“Watch and learn,” says one of the Englishmen.
The train departs, the three Englishmen cram into a loo, and the three Australians pile into another one nearby. Shortly afterwards, one of the Englishmen sneaks out of the loo, knocks on the door of the loo in which the Australians are hiding, and says, “Ticket please…”
The finals of the National Poetry Contest last year came down to two finalists. One was a Duke University Law School graduate from an upper crust family; well-bred, well-connected, and all that goes with it. The other finalist was a redneck from Southeast Alabama A&M.
The rules of the contest required each finalist to compose a four-line poem in one minute or less, and the poem had to contain the word “Timbuktu”.
The Duke graduate went first. About thirty seconds after the clock started he jumped up and recited the following poem:
Slowly across the desert sand Trekked the dusty caravan. Men on camels, two by two Destination-Timbuktu.
The audience went wild!!! How, they wondered, could the redneck top that?! The clock started again and the redneck sat in silent thought. Finally, in the last few seconds, he jumped and recited:
Tim and me, a-huntin’ went. Met three whores in a pop-up tent. They was three, we was two, So I bucked one and Timbuktu.
Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses and stops breathing. The other pulls out his mobile phone and dials 999. He gasps: “My friend is dead! “What can I do?” The operator says: “Calm down – I can help. First, let’s make sure he’s dead.” Silence, then the sound of a gunshot. The hunter comes back on the line: “Ok – now what?”
A woman and a man driver are involved in a horrific collision, but amazingly both escape completely unhurt – though their cars are written off.
As they crawl out of the wreckage, the man sees the woman is blonde and strikingly beautiful. Then the woman turns to the man and gushes breathily: ‘That’s incredible – both our cars are demolished but we’re fine. It must be a sign from God that we are meant to be together!’
Sensing a promise, the man stammers back, ‘Oh yes, I agree with you completely!’
The woman goes on, ‘And look, though my car was destroyed, this bottle of wine survived intact, too! It must be another sign. Let’s drink to our love!’
‘Well, OK!’ says the man, going with the moment. She offers him the bottle, so he downs half of it and hands it back.
‘Your turn,’ says the man.
‘No, thanks,’ says the woman, ‘I think I’ll just wait for the police.’
ethangunner ….spot on …I think my rating of Ade is about as high (low) as yours and the sooner we sell him the better. That we could get 30mil for him is amazing … Ade has less actual footbablling skill than lots of Sunday league players out there and his first touch is absolutely abysmal. He may have scored 30 goals (mainly as our only strike option) but get rid of him Arsene before he is found out as the very ordinary player he really is.
Afternoon grovers, I guess no news still and being friday, aint gonna let that damping my spirit!
Good one goonerjay&james….
There were 3 brothers from China, Bu, Chu and Fu. When they moved to America, they decided to change their names.
Bu changed his name to Buck.
Chu changed his name to Chuck.
And Fu…
well, he had to go back to China.
Several men are in the locker room of a golf club.
A cell phone on a bench rings and a man engages the hands free speaker function and begins to talk.
Everyone else in the room stops to listen.
MAN: ‘Hello’
WOMAN: ‘Honey, it’s me. Are you at the club?’
MAN: ‘Yes’
WOMAN: ‘I am at the mall now and found this beautiful leather coat. It’s only £1,000. Is it OK if I buy it?’
MAN: ‘Sure, go ahead if you like it that much.’
WOMAN: ‘I also stopped by the Mercedes dealership and saw the new 2008 models. I saw one I really liked.’
MAN: ‘How much?’
WOMAN: ‘£39,000′
MAN: ‘OK, but for that price I want it with all the options.’
WOMAN: ‘Great! Oh, and one more thing…the house I wanted last year is back on the market. They’re asking £1,950,000′ for it.
MAN: ‘Well, then go ahead and give them an offer of 1,800,000. They will probably take it. If not, we can go the extra 150,000 if it’s really a pretty good price.’ WOMAN: ‘OK. I’ll see you later! I love you so much!’
MAN: ‘Bye! I love you, too.’
The man hangs up. The other men in the locker room are staring at him in astonishment, mouths agape.
He turns and asks: ‘Anyone know who this phone belongs to?’
‘Romania striker Adrian Mutu has been ordered by Fifa to pay €12 million to Chelsea for testing positive for cocaine in 2004, according to his lawyer.’
Burner…
Nice jokes guys… you are making the final two hours a lot more bearable!
hey there guys! huge fan of le grove,been reading it 4 close 2 7months now n u guys r the sh!t.just lyk u,i hate akbs-the bastards! we ve alot them here in zambia,punched one in the nuts the after the rottenham hotshit carling cup game at white fart lame.we should buy that monster defender,i mean…with senderos you cant do worse ryt?
tbuzz, great golf joke! i like the friday afternoon joke fest.
that mutu post from pedro though….now thats a joke! hahaha! just like our transfer dealingzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Well said James… that sort of fine puts a parking ticket in perspective!
I’ve been having a read around the other sites… there is fuck all going on everywhere!
Sportingo have gone into hibernation… I can’t get onto Tribal football!
I am bored… maybe I’ll do some work…
Watching the wind blow the tumbleweed is much more exciting than the transfer news at present James. Hence the jokes keep us sane!!
Can wait for Euro2008 to commence …some decent footy at least!!
Hi Jeimz, love your reference to Spuds….Rottenham Hotsh!t…classic!!
I think you’re all being way too negative, we’ll win the league next year, Arsene knows, unlike you lot.
…Ha, ha, that had you going didn’t it! It is Friday.
AKB alert AKB alert!!! Geoff has been converted…run for the hills!!! lol
here’s a joke….i’m short sighted, broke my glasses this morn, gotta ride home on a bike through london! grovers i may not see you monday morning but if not then just tell mr wenger that 32m is more than he could ever want for someone who doesn’t know how to play football and david villa could well be god and its probably best to keep away from adrian mutu
A blonde, a brunette, and a redhead all work at the same office for a female boss who always goes home early.
“Hey, girls,” says the brunette one day, “let’s go home early tomorrow. She’ll never know.”
So the next day, they all leave right after the boss does. The brunette gets some extra gardening done, the redhead goes to a bar, and the blonde goes home to find her husband having sex with the female boss.
She quietly sneaks out of the house and vows to return home at her normal time the next day.
In the morning, the brunette says: “That was fun, we should do it again sometime.”
“No way,” says the blonde. “I almost got caught.”
Two friends are playing golf at their local course. One is about to chip on to the green when he sees a long funeral procession on the road next to the course. He stops in mid-swing, takes off his golf cap, closes his eyes and bows down in prayer.
His friend says: “That is the most touching thing I have ever seen. I never knew you were such a sensitive man.”
The man replies: “Yeah, well, we were married for 35 years.”
A man is stranded on a desert island for 10 years.
One day a beautiful girl swims to shore in a wetsuit.
Man: “Hi! I am so happy to see you.”
Girl: “Hi! It seems like you’ve been here a long time. How long has it been since you’ve had a cigarette?”
Man: “It’s been 10 years!”
With this information the girl unzips a slot on the arm of her wet suit and gives the man a cigarette.
Man: “Thank you so much!”
Girl: “So tell me how long has it been since you had a drink?”
Man: “It’s been 10 years!”
The girl unzips another pocket on her wet suit and comes out with a flask of whiskey and gives the man a drink.
Man: “Thank you so much. You are like a miracle!”
Girl (starting to unzip the front of her wet suit): “So tell me then, how long has it been since you played around?”
Man: “Oh, my God, don’t tell me you’ve got a set of golf clubs in there, too…!”
Geoff is right… trust in wenger, he has won 2 double don’t you know?
hahahah ok this could apply to anyone in the football world…chavs anyone?
A turkey is chatting with a bull.
“I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree,” sighs the turkey, “but I just haven’t got the energy.”
“Well, why don’t you nibble on some of my droppings?” replies the bull. “They’re packed with nutrients.”
The turkey pecks at a lump of dung and finds that it actually gives him enough strength to reach the first branch of the tree.
The next day, after eating some more dung, he reaches the second branch.
Finally after a week, there he is proudly perched at the top of the tree.
Unfortunately he is spotted by a farmer, who shoots him out of the tree.
Moral of the story: Bullshit might get you to the top, but it won’t keep you there.
sorry i’ll stop now….
Per Mertesacker, i have never seenhim play. but i have got him on Football manager a few times lol
i say Sign him as soon as possible
sign him before the Wages of the German league get closer to the Premire league’s wages
haha! Nice turkey joke!
Raif, watch him for Germany next week!
Pedro – yeah Pedro ill watch out for him.
having said that we would probably see his value go up aswell
and Speaking of Turkey ill be there for 2 weeks from Monday.
nothing like watching a Football tournament when on Holiday
cheers mark ,
yes lets hope we get rid of the #### and arsene lines his pockets …
speaking of arsene lining his pockets is chris on drugs ?
or is this really a rumor with some substance ?
You would expect chevski to pull a stunt like that !
I think its rumored that wenger is on 4 mil a year at arsenal
40 mil over 5 years ?!
thats a X2 wage packet !
Maybe hill-wood was talking about arsene
Jeez james, youre on a roll!!
An American woman of 40 wants to get married, but she is only willing to marry a man if he has never been (sexually) with a woman. After several unsuccessful years of searching, she decides to take out a personal ad.
She ends up corresponding with a man who has lived his entire life in the Australian Outback. They end up getting married. On their wedding night, she goes into the bathroom to prepare for the festivities.
When she returns to the bedroom, she finds her new husband standing in the middle of the room, naked…and all the furniture from the room piled in one corner. “What happened?” she asks.
“I’ve never been with a woman,” he says. “But if it’s anything like screwing a kangaroo, I’m gonna need all the room I can get!
And on that note, I bid you all goodnight and have a great weekend!!!
Adios!!
Evening T-Buzz!
I am off now Grovers!
Happy Blogging!
I agree just what we want, another Leslie Compton Big, Strong , Good in the air have seen him play and agree a good Center Half, wait until after the the Euro there will be many clubs after him, so come on Wenger stop looking at thje little Kids and buy us something for the present not 5 years time when I hope not even you will be there. but think he is just trying to sell season tickets and has no thought of buying anyone. Tony
and me….have a good one people!
me too.
if this happens, i wont have a doubt in my mind we will win lads!
but what do you think will happen to Gallas? but surely Arsene can’t expect to leave King Kolo on the bench
unless I’m wrong, this guy went to Real last season on a free. He hasn’t really played this season, as they have better defenders keeping him out of the side.
If Wenger were interested in him, surely we’d have tried to sign him when he was out of contract last year, no?
Hi Pedro/Geoff and Le-Grovers,
Two men are at the opposite side of the world from each other, but are both thinking the same thing.
One is walking a tightrope between two skyscrapers, the other is getting a blow-job from a 90 year old women.
What are they both thinking?……….
Dont look down!
Dont look down!
Dont look down!
Ha, ha, nice one Wrighty!
i would be great if we sign him, but we would have to sell ether gallas, senderos, or kolo.
and van persis is still injured!!!!
ffs
Cheers Geoff.
Van Persie is still injured? Theres a surprise! NOT!
I bet he plays for Holland, has a blinding tournament but gets injured and misses the start of the season for Arsenal.
your facts are wrong mate, Englands the most profitable league in the world so higher wages and higher prices for season tickets go hand in hand. Although the bundesliga is the second most which did surprise me
No they’re not bird camp, pound for pound in real terms it’s the Bundesliga, I haven’t seen you before so welcome on board.
I asked Pedro the same question, I’m sure he’ll break it down for you later when he’s back on.
i’m really liking how the other clubs go about doing their transfer business…
cue real and ac milan,…
tell the press who they like… unsettle the players, agree personal terms and then go to the club…
we go the long route… and “official” route and we always end up getting f*cked
Bird Camp… there is a difference between revenue and profit.
We take the most in TV rights etc… but we have the most clubs in debt. German clubs, in the main are self sufficient and in the black, unlike ManU (-£800mill), Chelsea (-£180mill), Arsenal (-£400mill)… you get the picture.
Maybe a nice £8million offer for Mertesacker would be tempting for the Germans… who knows!
Let my friends at the Local explain:
The Bundesliga might be second-class when it comes to football, but Germany’s top league Europe’s financial champion, according to study released on Thursday.
In it’s “Annual Review of Football Finance,” consulting and accounting firm Deloitte named the Bundesliga the best-earning league in Europe ahead of England’s Premier League, Spain’s La Liga and Italy’s Serie A. Germany’s top 18 football clubs generated €250 million in profit in the 2006/07 season with an 18-percent operating margin. The financial powerhouse the Premier League only managed to book €141 million in profits.
But England remained ahead in terms of overall turnover, cracking the €2-billion mark for the first time. The Premier League’s 20 teams had revenues of €2.3 billion, dwarfing the Bundesliga’s €1.4 billion. La Liga’s turnover was close behind at €1.33 billion and the Serie A dropped to €1.16 billion following the forced relegation of top club Juventus Turin.
Stefan Ludwig, senior manager for Deloitte’s sport business unit in Germany, said the Bundesliga would have a hard time ever catching the Premier League in terms of financial muscle, but was well placed to establish itself as Europe’s second strongest football league.
“Against the common trend of investing increased income into player transfers and salaries, the Bundesliga clubs are continuing with the same spending policies of recent years,” Ludwig said. “That makes the Bundesliga more attractive to potential investors, who might have shown little interest in the Bundesliga in the past.”
Wenger:
“I don’t know why I have to reassure them – Fabregas will be at Arsenal next season.”
Just like Hleb was supposed to be?
we need one of those crazy eastern european CB like a vidic
the spuds have signed 2 good players
luka modric and giovani dos santos
if we signed both of them, we would of been happy
Just noticed we still haven’t got Ramsey on the silly season list.
I know he is only a kid, but i thought he was worth adding as you have Some greek kid on there. lol
Shabz… I wouldn’t be happy with Modric… and I’d be wondering why Spurs got Dos Santos for £4million?
Cheap for a superstar?
Risdale wants Ramsey to go to the Mancs becuase they will get him back on loan… nail in our Ramsey coffin I think!
@Pedro
I agree that he will prob end up there.
But he was still strongly linked, so i though he would be worth adding.
i dont care if its per, nasri or ramsey ior god knows sum random french kid but can we please sign sum 1 soon this is sooooooo borin roumer after romour ! snoreeeeeeeeeee
ps per would be an awesome signing
I can’t believe that out of all those idiots at the press conference not one asked Wenger about Hleb, just to see what’s going on. But no, they blather on about Fabregas when everyone knows he’s staying this summer, and that arrogant Ostrich Adebayor, who I know won’t leave because it would be too good to be true!
I wanted to hear Wenger admit he was talking bollocks about Hleb being under contract etc and not going anywhere.
Ramsey is supposed to be meeting with wenger sometime soon
This weekend in Switzerland apparently.
Paulinho – its because Hleb is almost gone, not worth talking about..
He has Shat on us, big time…. Just hope AW gets good money and YAYA!
Paulinho – its because Hleb is almost gone, not worth talking about..
He has Shat on us, big time…. Just hope AW gets good money and YAYA!
Whoops!!
Anyone hear about the new “JOHN TERRY” vodka?
Made in London, bottled in Moscow
@Wrighty
PMSL…. nice one…. im stealing that
common dude…lets starts the euro2008 fever! http://euro2008crazy.blogspot.com/
The Ramsey deal reminds me a bit like when we signed Champagne Charlie Nicolas
No expects him to join Arsenal, but despite the strong links to Man Ure, he still wants to talk to Arsene. It would not surprise me if he joined us and I hope we get him, it will be a real coup and a kick in the teeth for AF
I still would not call him one of the so called re-assuring signings though. We still need established quality for that to happen
Mertesacker – AT LAST A PROPER CENTER HALF. sehr gut, today the league , tomorrow the world. Ja arsene?
but seriously……
Mertesacker is exactly the type of player equipped to deal with wet wednesdays at bolton in february as well as anywhere else at the weekend.
RaMSEY – Now ther’s a player we should have, would love to have and would thrive best at AFC but he supports UTD so expect the worst.
Hennessey- Im Welsh and biased but he’s the keper for the future awesome in the last 2 intenationals. a Must buy- honest.
Cymru am byth
What a terrible headline.
@mong
Whats so terrible about it?
yeah please explain?
nearly 9am here, i had a blinder last night! think there could be some bacon and eggs coming up in a minute…whos around?
Evo,
I’m cream-crackered mate!
Howz the weather?
Ha ha thats a well boring subject!
yeah bit bloody cold, luckily i cant feel anything at the moment…
Thats a touch!
Those bacon and eggs sound good mate!
I’m off geezer, have a good one Evo. Hopefully I’ll wake up to a new signing!
can only hope, nothing else happening so far!
i reckon the transfer news is going to hot up this weekend…there’s already plenty of chat out there, but all the managers will be in Switzerland for the Euro….
this seems like something of a reasonable peice of info at the end of this story…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/07/sfnars107.xml
i reckon the transfer news is going to hot up this weekend…there’s already plenty of chat out there, but all the managers will be in Switzerland for the Euro….
this seems like something of a reasonable peice of info at the end of this story…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/07/sfnars107.xml………………………...
i reckon the transfer news is going to hot up this weekend…there’s already plenty of chat out there, but all the managers will be in Switzerland for the Euro….
MANAGERS
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Thanks for commenting on chris 2.45 comment everyone
Its time for 1 fact people might not know since jose left , ramos is the highest earning
manager in the EPL earning a reported 6 Euros per year !
wenger earns 4 million pounds right up there too ..
On a personal note 06-07 as depressing as arsenal’s season was , i enjoyed Sevilla’s season immensely .i watched them slug it out with a barca and beckham real. You remember than season for arsenal ? its the season of TH14 leaving RVP always being injured , scraping around with spurs for the battle of 4th spot .Eboue cemented at RB . The baptista loan ,Definitely the low spot on the arsenal graph as far as form was concerned .
a few stats ramos did with his team Sevilla in just over 1 year !!!
During his first season with Sevilla, he won the UEFA Cup in the final against Middlesbrough, where his side won 4–0, and also winning the UEFA Super Cup, beating European champions and fellow La Liga side FC Barcelona 3–0. In the 2006–07 season, Ramos won the UEFA Cup for the second consecutive season after a 2–2 draw against RCD Espanyol, which Sevilla won 3–1 on penalties. Ramos also led Sevilla to a 3rd place finish in La Liga in the 2006–07 season, which qualified them for the European Champions League for the 2007–08 season. He also won the Copa del Rey, beating Getafe CF and pipped La Liga title holders Real Madrid to the Spanish Super Cup.
This guy packs a punch .. I silently wanted him to take over from wenger ,
then in came them wankers spurs , Of all the fucking teams on the planet
to get his services it had to be them didnt it ????
Why is he making signings now for top players , because he’s 1 of the best …
He knows like us after the Euro’s the prices will soar !!!!
( of the good talent anyhow)
wenger said he would … and he couldn’t ! whilst ramos has already got
2 great names in the bag … Whilst we are close to loosing 4 !
Im in a dilemma because i really rate ramos from his sevilla days !
But hate the fuckin spuds !
I think if we are all honest however , we are envious of the spuds and there
quick movements .. and less than happy about our negative movements (3/4 out the door ) 2 currently
this’ see – saw effect ‘might put us out of the 4 top this season !
I cant believe wenger is sitting on his hands talking about BULLSHIT on arsenal . com
, ”it wont be the same without England in it ”!! fuck me ! i got used to the idea months ago wenger, stop having interviews with the most unreliable arsenal site in the blog’o'sphere and SIGN SOME FUCKING PLAYERS!!!!!! QUICK !!!
Your making us look bad !!!!
empty promises , players dictating leaving terms , lack of good business before the start of the Euros , fuck me if ramos can do it surely a man of your accolades can
sign a few with your your hands tied !
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if chris’s rumors are correct !
His lack of urgency is baffling !
that dirty Russian is perplexed by all the media saying Chelsea
play unattractive win at all costs BORING TO WATCH football !
he would rather get them playing like arsenal .. I have no doubt about that !
he is a man who was so fast to sack grant with no plan B !
But with an unlimited money pit , he can rope in who ever he wants !
I think everyone has there price , if this offer took place at all …
i would treat it very seriously .. I need to know if this offer is just BS media talk or is there really an offer on the table 4 wenger ?!
If it existed and i was wenger with only 5 odd years left in my career id take it
IN A FUCKING HEART BEAT ! double your money 8 mil a year …
where do i sign ???????
how long did it take you to type that?
spuds sign dos santos
Evo – i heard that too!
yeah mate its on bbc website
probly 30 minutes evo !
it rolled off the touge
nice….it would have been bastard if you had a browser crash half way through!
So wenger has the cheque book at the ready….
no i think he is dating a stripper and talking about missing england at the Euro’s …
He’s too busy to make any signings !
he’s in basel, he did a press conference yesterday bro
Evo thats a great idea !
change your avatars like that you can have a great conversation with yourself
yes but what came out of it ?
other than bullshit off the subject banter that has nothing to do with signing players ..
and where the club is at currently?!
also i meant to say 6M euros not just 6 euros ..
but im sure everyone knew that ..
ramos earns 6 – wenger 4 ..
thats some difference ! if wengers is pounds which i guessing it is theres little difference but im sure 6 mil euros beats 4 mil pounds anyhow ..
you get what i mean !
but isnt that staggering for the spuds ! ???
it shows there intent if nothing else !
it does have me worried actually ..
he hasnt even got the cash for berbatove yet of all the other spring sellouts he will make from the team .. im sure he will sell 4 or 5 this season ..
just imagine if he makes anymore cheap signings like dos santos for 4 mil !
he hasnt even got the cash for berbatov yet of all the other spring sellouts he will make from the team .. im sure he will sell 4 or 5 this season ..
just imagine if he makes anymore cheap signings like dos santos for 4 mil !
yeah there wasnt much chat, so i started up a conversation with myself until everyone wakes up from their hangovers…
maybe we wont get nasri, it will actually be benzema…
Morning Evo and Ethan, are you two having a good time, hope you dont mind my intrusion –
Just read the suff about Arsene and his cheque book, knowing our luck, some bastard has stolen the cheques from, any excuse eh
Torres is loving playing with Cesc – well come join AFC then Torres or tell Villa to get his bags packed for London!!
Spuds – yes they are worrying me a bit too, but they can only ever play eleven at once so who are they going to get rid of?
Lemon, Janus??
Saw an I/V with Benzema a few weeks ago, after Lyon had won the league – he said that he didnt want to maove to UK at the moment, but he has targets and one is to move, but to a big club who play good football…..
too many guys sign for the spuds and they always regret it….berbatov, zakora…modric and dos santos will be the next
morning Rico…good to have some extra people to chat to
Morning all, I remember when Zokora joined Spurs because he wanted to win things, I know they’re shit but blimey, he did!
I’m posting in about 15 minutes this morning, hard hitting stuff, it’ll have the AKB’s going nuts, I think you’ll like it though.
Morning Geoff – Cant wait to read, I do hate the weekends tho, i end up sitting here getting frustrated, wanting to shout… But i guess we are all entitled to our views, AKB – i think i used to be one of those, about eight years ago now!
Morning Rico, AKB’s remind me of Germany during the war, blind allegiance, no one questions the leader, I’m not of course comparing anyone to their leader, it’s the blindness, I question anything I believe to be wrong.
As they often are!
looking forward to the post!
Ok new post going up any minute.
i hate it when goonernews.com picks up old comments as new news