So Hleb’s agent has been flirting outrageously with Real Madrid. If this was a real life situation and your wife was doing this, you’d pack her bags for her.
Apparently he can pick up wages of £100k a week in Madrid, a number that would send Arsene Wenger spinning… not to mention a majority of the Arsenal fans.
However, reading around the comment sections of Le Grove and some other sites it seems there is a resignation to the fact that footballers need to maximise their earnings and it is ok if Hleb wants to disappear off to Madrid.
We need to respect his wishes.
To that, I say bollocks.
Hleb is wildly richer than a majority of Arsenal fans. He earns, at the moment, about £17k more than the average person earns in a year… a week.
Arsenal are rumoured to be offering him an extra £20k on top of that… that’s £37k more than the average person earns in a year, he would now earn a week.
Pretty grotesque right? Do you know who pays for Hlebs monstrous salary?
You.
Every time you subscribe to sky, renew your season ticket, buy a shirt, buy a product you saw on Setanta or buy a £4 beer at Arsenal… you contribute.
So, seen as it is you the supporter who is paying for his luxury lifestyle, is it not fair to expect a little loyalty? After all, we have received very little return on our investment over 3 years. Would he have still been getting games at Chelsea, Madrid or Milan if he’d played like he did in his early days? No way… he’d be on the scrap heap along with players like Saviola, Gilardino and Pizzaro.
Why do so many Arsenal fans respect the financial wishes of a footballer who earned his millions doing something he was genetically gifted to do…?
If they have so much respect for Hlebs wishes, why can’t they respect a fan who has worked hard enough to be able to purchase a club level ticket… or shell out on a box?
I have more respect for a person who has worked their bollocks off to achieve their wealth than for some spoilt footballer who has been lucky enough to be born with a talent for a game we all adore.
So excuse me for not respecting Hlebs wishes. You got rich off the back of clubs fleecing the fans… how long the fans will tolerate this is anyone’s guess. At some point, the bubble will burst, and I can’t wait.
May 23, 2008 at 9:38 am
well said
May 23, 2008 at 9:40 am
Pedro, excellent post mate!!
May 23, 2008 at 9:41 am
let him go, and then watch him suffer at the hands of the Arsenal curse.
he who laughs last WILL laugh the loudest, the cunt willl be nothing without wenger, show me any other manager who will have the patience to stick with a wasteful pussy.
he will be a bench warmer wherever he goes.
sileek hunt.
May 23, 2008 at 9:43 am
spot on pedro, let someone else worry bout him pissing off before big matches to meet other clubs…
the way i see it, the more clubs want him the better, lets get a bidding war on the go and suck every penny out those spanish and italian clubs we can
May 23, 2008 at 9:45 am
i just want this pussy to just own up and say i want to leave instead of his little bitch agent coming up with crap.
why cant he be man enough and say am sorry arsenal, i have been here for 3 years, wenger has done so much for me. i want a new challenge
i would of respected him for that… but now he is taking the piss
last year he was linked to germany, we made him into a better player now u get barca, real and inter interested
May 23, 2008 at 9:46 am
Swap him for Robinho if Real want him so much… cos we dont
May 23, 2008 at 9:47 am
Has anyone seen the news this morning?
Josef Fritzel has just been given the death penalty……the bad news is John Terry’s taking it……
May 23, 2008 at 9:47 am
Quality Post!
Im trying hard to scrape my money together for next years seaon ticket whilst he eats ice cream by the truckload. TW@
Fuck off to madrid you pasty freeloader, I hope you get sunburnt sitting on the bench.
………………………………
God i hope i’m cheered up soon with a new signing…. its all doom and gloom these days.
May 23, 2008 at 9:49 am
i actually don’t give hleb anything, but whatever, get outa here. i respect him as a player, and i enjoy the space he makes, but he needs to give even more than he currently is. great work-rate, but the lack of assists/goals is disappointing. i look forward to hleb being slapped in the face with an eviction order. there has been too much crap surrounding him for us not to get rid of him. lets swap him for robinho. its so similar to flamini that its disgusting, at least the flamini crap was done early, and didn’t carry on for 3 or more weeks.
idk, just want this settled, its been dominating too much recently for any real arsenal news to come through.
May 23, 2008 at 9:49 am
Morning and great post.
Hleb definitely wants to leave for more money and all that bullsh!t about him missing the quiet life is horse sh!t. If he dont like London, fine.Move out!! Go leave at Godstone Farm or something, arsenal fans arent stupid you know!
He’s just doing the same thing Arsely (C)hole/Overmars/Petit did a few years ago, different tactics.its all for more money and they come up with lousy excuses that they want to win things or arsenal didnt match their ambition….
About time Wenger showed whose boss and start teaching this overpaid players a lesson or two!! ;-(
May 23, 2008 at 9:53 am
who ever does not want to play for arsenal can fuck off, i dont care how good u are, we care and love the team, if the player doesnt then he can go fuck off to madrid or barca.
May 23, 2008 at 9:55 am
ARSENAL FANS - IM STILL PUZZLED AT THE TYPE OF GREED OUR PLAYERS HAVE WHEN THEY RECEIVE BIG OFFERS……
HLEB’S AGENT SAYS THIS ON REAL MADRID’S INTEREST………..
This is fucking sweet. Honestly. Inter, Barcelona and Real Madrid all want to sign Alexander. It’s great. Do you have any idea what this will do for my profile? I’ll have a stable full of Eastern European players now all convinced I can get them a move to a big club and I’ll take my percentage of their wages and buy a big house and a big car and I might even have a harem. I’ve always wanted a harem and girls to put their finger up my bum.
WENGER - PLEASE SCRAP THIS WAGE STRUCTURE THING AND FACTOR IN KROENKE OR USMANOV TO HELP ARSENAL RETAIN THEIR BEST TALENT.
IF YOU DONT DO THIS NASRI AND BEN ARFA ARE GONNA BE SNAPPED BY CHELSEA OR MAN U SOON……..
May 23, 2008 at 9:56 am
Morning grovers,
Top post Pedro, anyone new to Le Grove have a butcher’s at this post and you’ll know why we all come back!!
We dont need players that dont want to play for us end of.
And that includes young Nasri!
I dont give a flying fuck how good this kid is, if he’s umming and ahhing about our offer he’s not good enuff for us. Fuck off back to france and stay there! You should be jumping for joy that a fucking top notch club has come in for your ungrateful ass! Fuck off!!
Sorry wasnt about yesterday so just catching up now!
Back to Hleb…. I mentioned previously that he’s a fucking circus act, I maintain that, and in my honest opinion, Arsenal FC will get a better replacement, and we will move on, and mark my words, we WILL be the first London club to win the CL, because all we need is 2/3 players to suppliment what we’ve got and we will challenge! So again I repeat tou and your cnuting ice cream and ass cock licking agent and fuck off to Madrid!
May 23, 2008 at 10:02 am
Hi mates earning bucks at Milan and he wants to do the same. Inter probably his first destination and then Madrid. Whenever he goes, I dont really care. If he’s gone behind our back and met Inter when we played Milan, hes no better than Cashley.
He’s a good footballer but he isnt great. Also, whenever Arsene signs someone it always seems as if ‘they have beeb playing there for ages’. All signing’s fit Arsenals style of play and frankly when you move to ‘bigger’ clubs you are expected to adapt your natural game and you become…well….shite….
Let him go to Milan, Real or Rotherham, dont give two shits. id expect good money for him so we can go get someone useful.
May 23, 2008 at 10:03 am
Excellent piece Pedro.
I was going to write more but Odub has just said everything that I think. But I will add this for good measure.
Fuck off Hleb and take your shit return of 11 goals in 3 seasons with you.
May 23, 2008 at 10:03 am
The trouble with getting rid of Hleb is the replacement will also take time settling into Arsenal’s style of play. More transition will mean more disruption to Arsenal’s evolution. I sincerley doubt any player will step in and do what Hleb does straight away.
I do think he offers something differenet to any other player we have (or most other teams hsave) and this year he has got more productive.
Of course, we’d like him to come out with a denial in the Adebayor way when rumours of his departure arise. Till he says something one way or the other we should take agents comments with the contempt they deserve.
For me, I don’t like to run down a player as it seems to me like acting like a woman scorned, having a girly strop about it is not - for me - the way to go; it may work of rothers and I make no judgement on the choice you make.
First preference - Hleb to stay.
Second preference - Robinho swap/swap + cash
May 23, 2008 at 10:06 am
ArsenalKenya, that wasn’t Hleb’s agent it was Arseblogger taking the piss.
May 23, 2008 at 10:09 am
Well said Pedro, i take a gun wasn’t stuck to his head when he signed his current deal? And, i don’t care what anyone else says, this fucker wasn’t pulling up any trees when he was playing in Germany, he comes here plays shite for 1 - 2 years (try doing that in Madrid you overrated cunt) and has one good season a la Flamin, and now him and/or his parasite agent wanna tout him around Europe to anyone who’ll pay top dollar, fucking stinks!! Are we the joke or is the system a joke?
May 23, 2008 at 10:14 am
You all know what’s gonna happen, Wenger will persuade him to stay, but there will be no contract extention and the cunt will walk away literally for nothing while he, his agent and the Europan clubs all laugh at us………….he should be outted now, stop dealing with him likes he’s doing us a favour by hanging around, fucking sort it Arsene!
May 23, 2008 at 10:16 am
I can’t believe people are running down hleb’s performances and contribution as if he was shite. He has been one of our better players this year - and worked really hard for the team. Instead of blaming Hleb look at the system so accurately described - the TV deals and money etc. Do we want to go back to the 70’s and 80’s? (Though another match watching Liam Brady would make me a happy man)
And think about how Marseille fans will feel about Arsenal (and him) if we get Nasri. This is our game. This is what it is. Get used to it. If we want football loyalty we are looking in the wrong place.
I’m already looking forward to the new Arsenal - whatever it looks like - Wenger hasn’t let me down yet!
May 23, 2008 at 10:16 am
Good post. I am interested in who we are signing and when his Nasri put pen into papers. Hleb is very useful to us, and we will miss him if he goes. However, we cannot stop him. Like I said before, I hope we wont regret our failure to keep our players together. The practice of having to start a new season with new players who take time to mature is becoming boring to me. We should source for money just like any other club so that we can maintain our players. There can not be any excuse if we fail to land any trophy next year. I shall enjoy my weekend by wathcing the chavs miserable week again. I hope they sell cashley cole to stoke city.
May 23, 2008 at 10:17 am
It could be a bit of both DDM, every season we go through this fuckin turmoil.
Hleb in paricular makes me sick. Worse than Flamini. You cant trust anyone’s word anyway but with Flamini it was on the cards…no one wanted him last season, he played well and earned himself a better package elsewhere….he wont be the same player at Milan tho but he probably dosent care and wants to play with his new Ferraris. With Hleb, hes really getting on my nerves now with his antics and trying to get out of Arsenal. Stick him in the reserves and put Randall in and make him prove his worth in the Carling Cup.
Agents are born assholes as well all know, but the players always give the go ahead for such statements which only goes to show, money talks.
May 23, 2008 at 10:17 am
chary your a better man than me mate!
I have absoultely no time for these ungrateful players who pretend to be torn on a decision when all it’s about is the fact that they want more money. if he came out and said it, fine. but to come out with all this dross about London’s too noisy, and just happening to meet Inter for ice cream is just utter bollox!
Who was he before he came to Arsenal?!
I used to have my own business and as much as I didnt expect my employees to die for the cause, I at least expected them to show some loyalty and passion. Why should it be any different for a footballer?
How many footballers have we made into household names in the last few years? Dozens, but yet some think they can just use us as a stepping stone to move on to other clubs!! We are Arsenal FC ffs!!
Why the fuck should we compromise our principles for some ungrateful tosspot by breaking our wage structure when we know for a fact that he’ll still fuck off the following summer for 5k a week more if we dont offer him nother payrise?! Where will it end?!! Fuck being held to ransom by some ungrateful toe rag! Show him the door, at least any other player that tries the same knows what to expect if he tries it on!!!
May 23, 2008 at 10:20 am
IMHO the sooner Hleb fucks off the better and not just because he’s a two-faced spineless cunt or the total disrespect he’s showing AW, The Club and it’s fans, but for the simple fact that once he’s gone maybe we can get from one of the pitch to the other and strtch the opposition in two or three passes rather than watching him go round and round in circles, not actually going past anyone or dilivering a killer pass or even a shot on goal……..
May 23, 2008 at 10:24 am
Ricardo, Marseille (the club not the fans) want to sell Nasri & they put a buyout clause in his contract, hardly the same situation as Hleb’s.
May 23, 2008 at 10:25 am
morning all,
interesting post, also was interesting was having a few beers last night with a chel$ki mate and he mentioned about “that Twat Terry” crying for 15 minutes after the final, does anyone else remember him crying when England didnt qualify for euro 08? cunt!
May 23, 2008 at 10:25 am
Well said, Pedro. But I don’t agree.
You probably earn my salary X 3 a year . My guess is that Geoff earns considerably more than that. In fact Geoff’s holiday will cost what I earn a year ! Does it concern me … NO.
Do you both have the right to your money …. yes.
Do you have the right to maximise your earning potential…. yes.
So does Hleb
May 23, 2008 at 10:26 am
I don’t think it is about comparing footballers’ wages to fans’ wages though. otherwise you could say Hleb should stay for £10k per week and he’d still be earning loads more than 90 per cent of fans. But when you are at work standing next to someone (Cesc) doing a very similar job and he’s earning twice what you are - it gets to you. No matter if it’s £50 a week or £50K a week,
May 23, 2008 at 10:27 am
remember one thing, it is the agent who is speaking no Hleb.
The agent wants to get as much money as he can for his player, it is a simple as that.
Agents say things to the press, so clubs bite.
A swap between Robinho and Helb would be wonderful for both clubs.
May 23, 2008 at 10:27 am
ricardo - I agree on the loyalty front, but his performaces , no. 11 goals from an attacking midfileder, who plays in the most openly attacking team in Europe, fucking average at best - he’s overhyped coz his natural control catches they eye, there’s no doubt he’s a talented fella, but if we’d have had more end product outta him how many more points might have we got? Maybe he’s part of the reason we dominate games in possesion but don’t actually do anything with it and draw 1-1……….
May 23, 2008 at 10:30 am
Ricardo…I havent heard Nasri meeting us in secret, or saying he can earn more money at Arsenal. I wouldnt mind Hleb leaving if him and his agent kept their mouth shut, went to Arsene and said look….I dont want to play for this club, i have a contract to honour but Id like to leave, so im putting in a transfer request, let the bidding start between Inter and Madrid.
I havent heard Nasri say anything of the sort. Nasri has been at the club since he was 9. He has signed a long contract with a decent buy out clause so the club benefits from his sale which is always expected. Arsenal are a top club, Marseille arent. Nasri hasnt said he can ear twice as much at Arsenal so he is honoured to be linked to us.
And Arsene has let me down atleast I have to say. I have to pay the highest ticket price of any other club and for 3 years now havent celebrated a trophy, unless you want to include the Emirates cup as one!
May 23, 2008 at 10:31 am
Why can’t you get a cup of tea at Stamford Bridge?
All the mugs are on the pitch and all the cups are at Old Trafford
May 23, 2008 at 10:32 am
good post - but how about compare what pleb makes compared to his ex-comrades in belarus. he could probably buy that shithole country for just one week of his current weekly salary and still get some change…
May 23, 2008 at 10:32 am
Hleb works his balls off for the team. He does what he is paid to do, which is give his all on the pitch, and in the training ground. We can ask no more of him. And as Mark says, it is his agent talking
May 23, 2008 at 10:32 am
When asked what it was like to win the Champions League Ryan Giggs Replied “It’s like winning a chocolate orange…. it’s not Terry’s it’s mine.”
May 23, 2008 at 10:32 am
Morning bloggers
Kenyon has quoted 100m available for him to rebuild the russian camp around fatlamp and terry the pen….. he states he will be after big stars like kaka and robinho…. and expect a clear out - oh that will be fun!
Setanta reports are back about Makoun - spuds will get him no doubt
Hleb, dear old Helb…… this time last season, if he had been sold for 5M we would have all been happy as long as he was replaced, yes this season, he has played well in two thirds of it, well enough to put his value up. His goal return is crap especially when you compare it to Freddy’s record. His milan behaviour is unforgiveable and i cant see that there is anyway he will stay. Even if he wanted to, his agents ‘talk’ has blown any chance of this. Hleb knows this aswell, and probably instigated the paper talk -
He is though good bargain bait, any target that Arsene REALLY has in mind, throw Hleb into the deal and it must just be a clincher - So Hleb, push off, go try find the greener grass - but remember, you will spend the rest of your career looking
May 23, 2008 at 10:33 am
So having trawled through the news sites and not found anything any more exciting than the fact that we’re about to sign 2 unproven young french kids, are we still quietly confident that those 2 biggish signings promised 2 weeks back are going to happen?
May 23, 2008 at 10:34 am
goonerjay lol!!
May 23, 2008 at 10:34 am
Nice post Pedro.
Well said DDM - Hleb does catch the eye and he is extremely talented with a ball, but so are those ball jugglers you see on coke adverts etc - what Hleb isn’t is destructive. He prob has more talent than C Ronaldo in terms of technical ability on the ball, but he isn’t even close when it comes to destructive end product. Just think if we had had CR, we would probably have won the league in March !! But that should also be seen as a positive as it tells as we aren’t many players away from a great side. Some more solidity in the spine of the team and that1 destructive player who can beat his man and open up those packed defences
May 23, 2008 at 10:35 am
The strange thing is, players like Hleb are just maximising the obscene amounts available out there but they have to remember that not every club has a multi billionaire or prepared to put itself in such huge debts. Football was on its way to financially correcting itself, then Abramovich happened. Transfee fees became stupid again, players wages rose and all of a sudden every player had a supersized ego.
I really don’t think Arsenal as a club pay poor wages in fact I know they don’t because we have an enormous wage bill, the third largest in England just behind Man U. But when players and agents hear that average players like Sidwell, Malouda and others at Chelsea earning fortunes they might think, I’m better than them, I should earn as much or more than them. Then along comes a club like Real Madrid, who constantly rely on the government to bail them out and offer players like Hleb the opportunity to match the earnings of those at Chelsea. It won’t go on for ever though.
May 23, 2008 at 10:36 am
Big Raddy, you have a point but then I believe (without knowing either of them personally) that Pedro & Geoff would honour a contract that they were willing to sign. Hleb was happy to take he security of a contract but isn’t so happy that he is supposed to stay loyal during that period. Hell I signed a 4 year contract with Arsenal for my seat & I’m well pi**ed off about things but I’m not trying to break it & get my money back!!
Maybe if all clubs completely done away with contracts players would soon start showing some loyalty. It would only take one to suffer an Eduardo type injury to see just how bad things can get as the club could refuse to pay for treatment & stop paying them wages immediately. They wouldn’t be so happy or disloyal then.
May 23, 2008 at 10:37 am
Hleb just go wherever you want. There is no need keeping a double minded guy in our team. As far as I am concerned Hleb became known when he signed for Arsenal, he should be shipped out now and he can be replaced at the speed of light, i will never lose sleep over the departure of Hleb. GO AWAY you little confused greedy little pig.
May 23, 2008 at 10:37 am
“When you wear this shirt you always want to win and at times you are left a little disappointed. The fans’ love is also important and I didn’t want to make the mistake that Andriy Shevchenko did and leave as a traitor.”
- Gennaro Gattuso on why he will not leave Milan for Bayern
Would we like to hear words like those from some of our players?
THAT is what we have to work on in terms of player material.
May 23, 2008 at 10:37 am
Someone mentioned it above but the thing that sticks in the throat most about Hleb is the comments about London. A footballers day to day job revolves primarily around the training ground and ours is in leafy Hertfordshire !!!! FFS move to Hertfordshire where quite villages are ten a penny !!
May 23, 2008 at 10:37 am
And …. I am not sure Nasri is coming. Because…… part of the way Arsenal negotiate is to do it in secret. We NEVER know who the signed player will be. In fact, when a story gets leaked we rarely get the player.
Did we know in avance about Eduardo? ..No
Sagna? .. No
TH14?.. No
GS? ..No
Wiltord? ..No
Sol? ..No
I could continue, but you get my drift.
May 23, 2008 at 10:38 am
hleb wont ask to leave as he will lose his loyalty bonus, so he is waiting and basically whoring himself out until a team bids for him so he can get his extra money.
I like hleb, but this situation is leaving a more bitter taste than the new indiana jones film
May 23, 2008 at 10:38 am
Odub, I choose the woman scorned analaogy carefully as I’ve had my fair share of those experiences !
I get as frustrated as anyone with agent talk - the only sloution I can think of is for all FIFA registered agents to be on non-commission based fees - i.e. the get paid a flat fee for a duration of time, like some IFA’s do.
It’s a bit radical but a fairer way, IMO, of a players best interests being looked after.
Can’t see it happening though, too many vested interests.
May 23, 2008 at 10:39 am
Big R - Totally agree with everyone’s right to maximise their earnings potetial, but he’s signed a contract! I’m a sub-contracted IT Consultant, and if i sign a contracte for a two year term/project and decide fuck it i can double my pay by walking after a year to another bank, then i have to break that contract and i can be sued by my original employers, where’s the sodding difference??
May 23, 2008 at 10:40 am
Pedro, I spoke to my friend at Arsenal last night & got some interesting news about Nasri. Its actually 3 years since he gave me any information (I thought it was 2 but was wrong), it was actually the Hleb deal I knew about & at that time gave to another site.
May 23, 2008 at 10:40 am
Hleb can afford better lawyers than you DDM
May 23, 2008 at 10:41 am
well i’m only guessing
May 23, 2008 at 10:42 am
Good point GMR.
Imagine you were a Spuds season ticket holder (repulsive idea !). Someone came to you and said… ‘I will buy out your 4 year contract at 30% above your costs. Give you a club class seat at THOF, and pay for a taxi to & from the ground’.
Would you take it, or honour the contract ?
May 23, 2008 at 10:43 am
Hleb certainly does provoke different opinion’s amongst fans. Two other Arsenal fans in the office rave about him and think he’s awesome. I don’t share it personally, I think he’s like a performing seal, looks good, works hard at his act but what do you actually get from it? This season 2 goals and 7 assists. Average at best I would call that. DDM touched on it, if Helb had more end product we would have picked up a few more points along the way and some of those draws could have become wins. If and buts….
I accept if he is sold he will need to be replaced but that’s why AW get’s the big bucks and with our current wage structure this kind of thing is always going to happen to us. The worry is that we are becoming a selling/stepping stone club. I don’t like that one bit but it seems to be where we are. No matte how much money you earn if you can double it elsewhere most people will go.
May 23, 2008 at 10:43 am
GMR - can you share your news? or will you get in dodo
May 23, 2008 at 10:44 am
Dennis, The difference is the recompense to your current employer. In this case @ £15m !
May 23, 2008 at 10:45 am
GMR, come on spill the beans squire!!
May 23, 2008 at 10:45 am
So what’s the news GMR… you’re killing me with suspense here
May 23, 2008 at 10:47 am
What Hleb does is that in holding onto the ball in the oppostions half is that he draws defenders to him therefore freeing up space for others, Cesc/Adebayor/Bendtner, and helping attakcs to start.
He’s a creative midfielder primarily - creating for others to execute.
May 23, 2008 at 10:48 am
1966 - yep, he makes all that space then passes to the opposition!!
May 23, 2008 at 10:50 am
For all of you out who say, it’s his agent talking, not Hleb so cut his some slack, bollox! Do you honestly think that any agent doesn’t discuss what he plans to do without his employer’s approval, wake up. This has dragged on now for weeks, if Hleb wanted to stay he would’ve come out and said do, or the very least told his agent to shut the fuck up, but his agent is still spouting off……..
May 23, 2008 at 10:50 am
It’s a good job someone else does the execution!!
May 23, 2008 at 10:51 am
Rico01 - certainly in earlier seasons his passing wasn’t always up to scratch - he was better this year.
I like the intention in his play, even if the execution isn’t necessarily 100%.
May 23, 2008 at 10:51 am
Good article. The writing is on the wall for Hleb. The Arsenal fans will not accept this kind of behaviour and if he wears the shirt again, they will let him know. It’s a really poor show from Hleb but a sign of the times we live in and also a snapshot of the vast majority of footballers today. I can see that Wenger is trying to instill a team ethic and a set of values that, to many people, seem out of date but the alternative is a footballing world where established supporters of the club just get fed up as it will loose its identity and we’ll be stuck with a load of players like Ashley Cole, Ballack, Malouda and their ilk who see their career as a way of purely maximising their earnings and nothing else. Personally though, from a footballing standpoint, I don’t mind seeing the back of Hleb and I’ve got a sneaking feeling that Wenger is playing along to max out the transfer fee.
May 23, 2008 at 10:51 am
Share away GMR! Or is it not shareable? Is it good or bad news?
Raddy, everyone has a right to maximise their earning, but in football there is a difference. You earn fucking millions, you will always earn millions. Having £10million in the bank is not that different to having £13million in the bank… you’re living easy either way…
If you sign for a club who give you an opportunity to play on the biggest stage, and you are shite for 2 years… but they persist with you, I think you owe that club some loyalty.
I could earn more money working elsewhere, but the company I am with treat me with respect and I appreciate that. I have been given a great chance, and I’d like to repay that faith before I leave.
If I was a footballer and I’d been shite for 2 years, but the fans had patience with me… I’d want to repay them with a trophy before I moved on… after all, it is the fans that allowed him to become the player he is today. Imagine if he played that bad for madrid? The fans would almost see to it that he is dropped… that would never happen at Arsenal.
Plus, this is Arsenal we are talking about… we contend for trophies, we play in the champions league… Its not like being Stokes best player is it?
In business you only answer to your boss… in football, you answer to 60,000 fans who sing your name. I think comparing business with football is tough… they are very different. If you don’t like being tied to a contract… don’t sign it.
May 23, 2008 at 10:53 am
I will try & share the news a little later on however it does worry me because there are only a limited amount of people that actually know it, so assuming arsenal have people checking websites & blogs (which they do) I don’t want the bloke to get in trouble & I don’t know how hard it will be for them to guess who it was.
It just concerns the Nasri deal & its a little further on than people know, but I promise I’ll tell you later on if I get the ok from him.
May 23, 2008 at 10:54 am
Pablo - Please, please, please don’t confuse overall wage bill with quality of personnel, just how much, percentage wise, of our wage bill is currently being spent on under 18’s??
May 23, 2008 at 10:54 am
GMR - you tease you, but dont drop yourself in doooodooo
May 23, 2008 at 10:55 am
GMR is the new Hleb, loads of good set-up work but no final delivery!
May 23, 2008 at 10:56 am
timao - nice one, hope we dont have to wait another two seasons to hear from GMR
May 23, 2008 at 10:57 am
To me, a player going to another club is normal, even if it’s for more money. But the way he does it is another thing. I lost my respect for Hleb after knowing about his meeting with Inter.
I believe Arsenal will be fine if he goes. Similar to Flamini. Well, they both perform extreme ly well this season, compared to last one of course. But that is because they play in Arsenal team, our team with a unique style of playing football. I doubt they will produce the same performance at a new club.
And loosing them is not a bad thing anyway, if Arsene can find suitable replacements. Hleb and Flamini don’t have the intension to score goals, don’t talk about their ability to score goals. So imagine if our new signings can contribute more or less like they do, and provide extra goals, that will be incredible. Cesc has improved a lot compared to last season, in term of scoring goals and long-distance attempts.
May 23, 2008 at 10:58 am
Just playing Devil’s Advocate Pedro/GMR.
I actually beieve that it is an essential that a player is passionate about the club he plays for. Otherwise it is just a job.
If Hleb is genuinely angling for a move out of the club, he should go. If it is just his agent talking, Hleb should sack him.
And I hope your employers realise what a gem they have Pedro !
May 23, 2008 at 10:58 am
Zebo, a half blind 5 year old African orphan has to ride 7 miles a day to school with only one leg on a bicycle with buckled wheels and no brakes.
Please give just a small donation of 2 pounds and we will send you the video it’s fucking hilarious!!!
May 23, 2008 at 10:58 am
yeah Hle I mean GMR stop flattering to deceive!!!
So what some comments above have made clear to me is Hleb is the reason why we’re not direct, dilly dally on the ball, and have 99% possession and dont do as much with is as we should do, and pass the opposition to sleep…..
Right, we definitely need to keep him then dont we?!
May 23, 2008 at 11:04 am
The real problem here guys is that before the departue of Flamini and the potetial departure of Hleb, AW was ’saying’ that we would be needing 2 or 3 players…….so does that mean we will now be in the market for 4 or 5 depending on whether or not Hleb moves on? But, i digress, the real isssue here is that we go three steps forward and two back everytime a key player pisses of, so AW’s work in progress never reaches fruition. How does he and/or the club stop this cycle………..unfortunately guys it’s all about money, and we, like all other clubs have a team made up of mercenaries, so we either compete with the Real Madrid’s of this world or get used to a work-in-progress team!
May 23, 2008 at 11:04 am
Cheers Raddy!
I think a great example of how to do things is Drogba (I loathe to compliment him…). He said at the start of the year he would leave… everyone knows the score, everyone is happy. He has given them trophies and goals over a few seasons, now he 29 he would like to leave.
There is none of this will he wont he malarky… no threats of a contract buy out.
Raddy, you are spot on. Hleb pays his agent and should therefore control him.
Cesc’s agent piped up… so Cesc sacked him. What better example is there than that?
GMR… it sounds like good news… don’t get you buddy in trouble, just say if it is good or bad!
Pablo… our wage bill is so high because we pay youngsters over inflated wages… that is why they join us.
May 23, 2008 at 11:04 am
fuck hleb, hes cunting off wenger as much if not more than the rest us…
i dunno if u guys saw an interview he did with arsenal tv but he said he went to talk wenger and asked to leave beacause he didnt think he was good enough!!! wenger told him to calm down and that he new helb was good enough and told him he ‘doesnt sign just anybody’!!
his behaviour now is a disgrace i feel sorry for wenger having to see somone he trusted and persisted with throwing it back at him.
fuck helb he’s a scumbag… its that simple
May 23, 2008 at 11:06 am
Ok, but keep it to yourselves. My man in the know says that Nasri himself wants to sign for Arsenal immediately, but his agent is trying to convince him to put off any move until after the Euro’s as he can then maximise his barganing potential.
Basically the agent is trying to get a better deal for his cient and himself.
In spite of this Nasri will be unveiled on Monday as an Arsenal player.
May 23, 2008 at 11:06 am
Big R - Agreed, £15m would be nice recompense, but doesn’t Arsene need to act now rather than believing/hoping he can persuade the fella to stay? Dangerous territory if you ask me……
May 23, 2008 at 11:07 am
GMR… that last comment posted as you on a different IP… that isn’t you is it?
May 23, 2008 at 11:07 am
GMR you are my hero
May 23, 2008 at 11:08 am
DDM
I am not confusing it I am just saying there is money there available but its apparent that the clubs philosophy is nurturing its own talent as opposed to bringing in the so called big trophy winning names many call for. Perhaps we are spending too much on the under18’s, perhaps we have too many youth players or maybe the youth policy is being operated like a factory churning out many players for others while we keep the so called cream. I do know that very few make into the Arsenal first team and remain there.
May 23, 2008 at 11:08 am
ok GMR will u atleast say is it good or bad or it depends
May 23, 2008 at 11:08 am
I bought a teddy bear for ten quid, just sold it on eBay for twenty. Now I’ve got the fucking Sudanese Muslims after me for making a prophet out of a teddy.
May 23, 2008 at 11:09 am
What my comment came now i had written it at 10.54
May 23, 2008 at 11:09 am
Superb post Pedro!
May 23, 2008 at 11:11 am
nice news GMR how reliable is your source?
May 23, 2008 at 11:14 am
So is the GMR post a hoax Pedro?
May 23, 2008 at 11:15 am
ok so lets say nasri is got then do youll think we will get afra cause wenger had said 2-3 players and 1 from the premiership so nasri,epl player and a defender tht means we will not get afra but if helb goes then we have a chance of getting him
May 23, 2008 at 11:17 am
I think GMR’s post is a hoax… Different I.P and a different e-mail! I doubt he would reveal so soon after saying he would wait till the afternoon!
May 23, 2008 at 11:18 am
Going to the beach
Have a good weekend everyone
May 23, 2008 at 11:18 am
Hi Pedro, it is me, I was on my office laptop, now Im using another PC.
My source is very reliable, as I say, he has only given me 2 nods in 2 years.
Ben Arfa was a complete smokescreen - all the while Wenger was praising Ben Arfa, he was trying to secure Nasri’s services.
May 23, 2008 at 11:18 am
this is great! better than Hollyoaks!
May 23, 2008 at 11:18 am
More “good” news - despite injury RVP has been included in the Dutch squad for Euro 2008.
Oh happy day (!)
Expect him back in pre saeson with multiple injuries and out of action till Xmas.
May 23, 2008 at 11:19 am
welsh papers report that we are after ramsey, head to head with red nose, this is more like it, after all he is only 17yrs and we lack youth players!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 23, 2008 at 11:19 am
WILL THE REAL GMR PLEASE STAND UP!
May 23, 2008 at 11:20 am
so whoever the hoaxer is from the spuds… piss off back to where you came from and go and ice J - anus’s ankle!
May 23, 2008 at 11:21 am
Pedro, is it an IP adress you’ve seen b4, if so name and shame the cnut!
May 23, 2008 at 11:22 am
Helb is a cunt
May 23, 2008 at 11:22 am
Some good news at last… nice one GMR.
May 23, 2008 at 11:22 am
with you on that Odub, and boot him/her off
May 23, 2008 at 11:28 am
damn… so we still haven’t signed nasri yet…..
call me old fashioned but… if hleb wanted to go he should have come out and told wenger and the fans… i would have respected him a lot more..
when he says ” its better that i don’t speak on this” thats like a pussy hiding behind his stupid agent…
at least have the balls to say… i want to leave.. thank you or some shit like that!!
May 23, 2008 at 11:31 am
Great post
Fed up with these greedy money grabbing bastards, let him go and rot in Madrid, Milan or wherever he ends up. There fans will not show the same patience we do with these types of players.
I am certain that the football boom is going to go bust soon. The tv money is out of control and with people having higher cost of living food, fuel e.c.t. subscription tv will be one of the first things to go from many peoples homes. The current SKY/ Setanta deal will be the last big pay day for the PL and future deals will not be at that level again BBC and ITV wont bid so the two of them can reduce there bids dramatically. Im glad Arsenal are not caving to these ridiculous wage demands we are competing at the highest level and only just fell short this year. The future of our club depends on financial stability we should not break the bank or our structure for players that really are not that good.
I hope Nasri does sign then ditches his agent he has the best chance to suceed at Arsenal if he is talented enough he will be rewarded as Henry, Bergkamp were and currently Fabregas is. He should ditch his agent as he is obviously looking out for his own payday not his players best interests.
May 23, 2008 at 11:34 am
eh my name came up earlier and its the first time i have been on,
but you probably guessed that as the spelling was correct!
May 23, 2008 at 11:36 am
ok so many hoaxes on the net commenting on diff ppls names like chris and gmr etc so now who do u believe
May 23, 2008 at 11:38 am
so rvp is still injured after what was a precautionary substitution the other month, there is something seriuosly wrong with that dude,
at least roscicky has been diagnoised
May 23, 2008 at 11:39 am
aakash,
simple sign up with wordpress and get a logo and no one can imitate you, i think my hoax was a coincidence as it is relativly common name,
May 23, 2008 at 11:39 am
This impersonation thing was happening a lot last year on other Arsenal sites. Winding us up, teasing with exclusives on who coming etc.
May 23, 2008 at 11:40 am
oh ok thanks chris
May 23, 2008 at 11:45 am
Don’t worry about the impersonation thing… you guys can actually tell if someone is impersonating by the avatar.
GMR’s normal Avatar is grey… the imposters was pink…
Or, like Chris said… get a wordpress account!
It’s mad… the rumour mill has dried up! We haven’t had a centre back proposal for about a week!
May 23, 2008 at 11:45 am
Hey Gunner’s….
Who is your Arsenal Player of the season?
Adebayoh
Clichy
Fabregas
Walcott
please vote on
http://www.latest-arsenal.blogspot.com
thanx!!
May 23, 2008 at 11:48 am
and of course sign up for pedros daily dose of news, while you are subscribing
May 23, 2008 at 11:51 am
Indeed… did I tell you that you develop magical powers when you subscribe to our Grovetastic mailing list!
May 23, 2008 at 11:51 am
What’s the link for signing up at WordPress ? I use a PC during the day and a laptop in the evening so it’d probably be best if I signed up
May 23, 2008 at 11:53 am
Chary
Just click the word press link at the bottom of this page, and go to create a new account/ log on, follow instructions from there, and you can download an avatr/pic as well as change your nickname so it displays your name as it currently does, easy peasy!
May 23, 2008 at 11:54 am
Friday!!!! where are the jokes people!!!! and a long weekend cause we have monday off!!!!!
woot
May 23, 2008 at 11:54 am
Paddy had been drinking at his local Dublin pub all day and most of the night celebrating St Patrick’s Day.
Mick, the bartender says, “You’ll not be drinking any more tonight Paddy.”
Paddy replies, “Ok Mick, I’ll be on my way then.” Paddy spins around on his stool and steps off. He falls flat on his face. “Shit” he says and pulls himself up by the stool and dusts himself off.He takes a step towards the door and falls flat on his face, “Shit!”
He looks to the doorway and thinks to himself that if he can just get to the door and some fresh air he’ll be fine.He belly crawls to the door and shimmies up to the door frame. He sticks his head outside and takes a deep breath of fresh air, feels much better and takes a step out onto the sidewalk and falls flat on his face.
“Bi’Jesus… I’m fockin’ focked,” he says.
He can see his house just a few doors down, and crawls to the door, hauls himself up the door frame, opens the door and shimmies inside. He takes a look up the stairs and says “No fockin’ way”, but he crawls up the stairs to his bedroom door and says “I can make it to the bed.”
He takes a step into the room and falls flat on his face. He says “Fock it” and falls into bed.
The next morning, his wife, Jess, comes into the room carrying a cup of coffee and says, “Get up Paddy. Did you have a bit to drink last night?”. Paddy says, “I did Jess. I was fockin’ pissed. But how’d you know?”
“Mick phoned… You left your wheelchair at the pub!”
May 23, 2008 at 11:55 am
Thanks Odub, I’ll do that imminently.
May 23, 2008 at 11:57 am
Nice post Pedro, Raddy the point of what he’s isn’t that he’s earning it, it’s that we’re paying for it.
I hope we sell him, get a shed load and buy a replacement that has an end product, I can’t see the fans ever warming to him again.
May 23, 2008 at 11:59 am
Just got this from a friend in Madrid -
According to Marca, Real Madrid is ready to pay 80M € for Ronaldo. Real will pay 40M€ cash, whereas the remaining part represent the “value” of the Real Madrid striker Robinho.
May 23, 2008 at 11:59 am
It’s not a case of respecting Hleb’s financial wishes but a reluctant acceptance of the pitiful state that football is now in. The player holds most of the top cards if he wants to use them, in terms of contracts, mobility, rights, the lot. If a player wants to go, he’ll go and there’s little point in trying to hold on to a discontented player.The clubs are just as guilty as they also play fast and loose and seldom do much to encourage player loyalty. The top players have little incentive to stay loyal and are almost encouraged by the top clubs to maximise their short lived currency wherever they can best earn it. Us, the fans don’t count and seemingly don’t matter too much when it comes to the crunch decisions. Honestly I hate the current state of top level football, almost everything about it apart from still enjoying watching great football. I’d give it up if I could, have come very close to it, but I can’t . Arsenal’s in my blood, unfortunately. I often wonder what it will take to break that increasingly irrational bond.
May 23, 2008 at 12:00 pm
lol!!! gooner jay u rock!!
May 23, 2008 at 12:01 pm
dennis… you squashed the tinnie weenie .001% chance we had of getting robinho!!
May 23, 2008 at 12:03 pm
just sent u some great JT images pedro/geoff… enjoy!!
May 23, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I have a feeling of de ja vu about this whole summer.
We’ll get our hopes up, get linked to every footballer under the sun, listen to every agent talk up his client and say he’s got loads of other offers apart from ours, and also listen to our current players’ agents talk about mega offers from the likes of AC and Real and we go into the Emirates cup with the 2 french kids and Vela as our new signings…..Sound familiar?!
May 23, 2008 at 12:05 pm
and that would would def take the piss
May 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Check out the Funnies… Cheers chaps for sending those in!
May 23, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Hleb got to go.. his behaviour is worse than that of a scumback
he wants more money..nothing wrong except that his I jin fr free move and you pay me a big salary scheme to Inter fell apart.. now he is frantically searching for a new breast feeder
we cant keep him .. bt so far, we are losing players, not adding to squad
this surely cant be right
May 23, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Odub expect nothing and that you way won’t be disappointed. Vela and a couple of kids will be our summer. And Vela and these kids will appear in the Carling Cup in September, spank some unsuspecting team who know nothing about them and everybody will say what a genius Wenger is.
Same old same old.
May 23, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Choy - Sorry fella, but did you really think we’d get him?
May 23, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Fantastic Funnies guys!! lol!! Well done.
James that’s the approach I’m taking until August the 9th mate, I’ll just expect nothing and be happy if/when we get anyone.
May 23, 2008 at 12:20 pm
if the GMR thing is true, maybe wengers gonna unvail nasri plus a couple of others he’s done on the sly… theres nothing about CBs anywhere!!
May 23, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Also, the worrying this is, that if we are after him, that RM value him at €40m…..ouch!
May 23, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Little old family cat dies and goes off to heaven,
here she is greeted by St Peter….
He says to the moggy - Welcome to our heaven, to make your stay better, what was the one thing you wanted in your life that you never had, and you shall have it now…….
The moggy thought for a while and then said
‘I would love a big fluffy cushion, I had some old tatty thing from my family’
St Peter granted the moggys wish and she was happy.
A few hours later, a family of mice arrived at the gates of Heaven again greeted by St Peter - he asked the mice,
‘What would you all like to make your time here happier, anything you like can be yours’
The mice thought for a while, and then one said,
‘We all wanted a skate board, so we could have fun, but we never had one’
St Peter said - ‘Then you shall have a couple of skateboards my friends’ And they did
The following day, St Peter wanted to make sure his new arrivals were happy and comfortable - he went off to find the Moggy, who was fast asleep on her new big fluffy cushion….
She awoke and St Peter said - Good morning moggy, are you happy with your cushion and comfotable…
The Moggy replied”’
‘St Peter, the cushion is absolutely wonderful, and thank you. I had the best nights sleeps ever - and the meals on wheels are awesome’
May 23, 2008 at 12:25 pm
I never used to be as cynical as I am now. It’s just that everything that comes out of the club, be it from AW or PHW or whoever indicates a lack of ambition and a reluctance to enter the transfer market, except to replace player’s who are leaving. AW’s ideal summer would have been to stay with what he had and try again next season. I don’t think his attitude has changed in that respect.
I honestly think this summer will be something like 2 or 3 out and the same number in.
I wait and hope and pray to be pleasantly surprised!!
May 23, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I’ll expect sometihng a bit surprising and uplifting.
We DO need that.
May 23, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Very well said Pedro !!!!!The best thing to do with him,unless he disassociate from what have been said by his agent is to make life very difficult,suspend him and then let him eat the grass of the Emirates to serve as a lesson for everyone to respect Arsenal,Arsene and the Supporters.
Wish the Flamster to watch Milan from the bench,now that Gattuso,Pirlo,and Ambrosini are going to be there next season…….have no chance to play in his position…for sure
May 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm
New funnies… its like a flipping conveyer belt today!
May 23, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Real great stuff in the funnies!! lol
Boy, has that just brightened my day!!
May 23, 2008 at 1:08 pm
It’s friday guys so i s’pose i should post some jokes otherwise it just wouldn’t feel right…
A husband and wife love to golf together, but neither of them are
playing like they want to, so they decide to take private lessons.
The husband has his lesson first. After the pro sees his swing, he
says, “No no, no, you’re gripping the club way too hard!”
“Well, what should I do?” asks the man.
“Hold the club gently,” the pro replied, “just like you’d hold your
wife’s breast.”
The man takes the advice, takes a swing, and POW! He hits the ball
250 yds. straight up the fairway. The man goes back to his wife
with the good news, and the wife can’t wait for her lesson.
The next day the wife goes for her lesson. The pro watches her
swing and says, “No, no, no, you’re gripping the club way too hard.”
“What can I do?” asks the wife.
“Hold the club gently, just like you’d hold your husband’s penis.”
The wife listens carefully to the pro’s advice, takes a swing, and
THUMP. The ball goes straight down the fairway. . . about 15 ft.
“That was great,” the pro says with a straight face.
“Now, take the club out of your mouth and swing it like you’re
supposed to!”
May 23, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Evening Chaps,
ALEXANDER HELB!!!! ARE YOU LISTENING!!!! You should go now, & take that fuck’in bottom feeding manager with you.
P.S Sorry Geoff & Pedro I hope I haven’t compromised your blog?
May 23, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Mmmm, is there only one person who reads this blog called Chris?
May 23, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I hope there is a fuck’n alexander that reads it.
May 23, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Some top notch jokes and funnies guys!! absolutely hilarious!! Keep em coming please!!
I’d normally say it’s not right to laugh at another man’s misfortune but John Terry… Ha fucking ha!!!
May 23, 2008 at 1:19 pm
chary i have your icon ready for you!
to the other chris above, ha ha no i did say that there coudl be more than one for sure,
May 23, 2008 at 1:19 pm
As requested Odub
One day at the end of class little Billy’s teacher has the class go home
and think of a story and then conclude the moral of that story.
The following day the teacher asks for the first volunteer
to tell a story. Suzy said, “Sunday we load the chicken eggs on the
truck and drive into town to sell them at the market. Well, one Sunday
we hit a big bump and all the eggs flew out of the basket and onto the
road.” The teacher asks for the moral of the story. Suzy replies,
“Don’t keep all your eggs in one basket.”
Next is little Lucy. “Well, my dad owns a farm too and every weekend we
take the chicken eggs and put them in the incubator. Last weekend only
8 of the 12 eggs hatched.” The teacher asks for the moral of the story.
Lucy replies “Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched.”
Last is little Billy. “My uncle Ted fought in the Vietnam war; his plane
was shot down over enemy territory. He jumped out before it crashed with
only a case of beer, a machine gun and a machete. On the way down he
drank the case of beer. Unfortunately, he landed right in the middle of
100 Vietnamese soldiers. He shot 70 with his machine gun but ran out of
bullets, so he pulled out his machete and killed 20 more. The blade on
his machete broke, so he killed the last ten with his bare hands”.
The teacher looks in shock at Billy and asks if there is possibly any
moral to his story. Billy replies, “Don’t fuck with uncle Ted when he’s
been drinking.”
May 23, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Yeah Chris, there’s an irish chappie called chris who tends to come on here half cut and making absolutely no sense!! If I were you I’d personalise your name a bit so you dont get associated with the drunken perv!!
I’m jesting by the way, he’s a mate!
May 23, 2008 at 1:22 pm
There couldl? Surely there couldln’t be.
May 23, 2008 at 1:22 pm
i am the only blogger that doesnt drink during lunch hour like you lot,
May 23, 2008 at 1:23 pm
there is actually a bunch, chris goona and gunner chris and god knows how many whom use nick names
May 23, 2008 at 1:24 pm
PEDRO
thats more like it ! give them a serve ! GOOD POST !
Hleb is leaving thats for sure .. maximizing the fee is the only important issue left here .
when a agent comes out and says he has moved into a position in which there is no way back , it spells he wants out .. let the prick go .. Generate some interest in him !
Not let this turn into a TH 14 affair ! Make him a public sale and let the bids rise !!
If arsene makes the fatal mistake of listening to the player again and not putting him up for sale PUBICALLY we wont get the cash we need for replacing him !!
GMR
with regard to your squad is big enough . but lacks quality .. I do agree
but knowing arsene & he wont let his works in progress leave , i feel the squad needs to get bigger as knowing arsene he wont let players go , who clearly need to GO !
So knowing the way arsene thinks the squad needs to get larger and send the lads off for loans !
its the only way forward . if we do purchase nasri and ben arfa these guys will simply replace our squad back to status quo ! these 2 will replace hleb and flamini …
remember we needed another 2- 3 signings including keeping the above 2 !
arsene has 1 week to deliver !!!
Everyone remember what we asked of the club with 2 games to go ..
before flamoney left and before hleb made his feelings shown !
in my reckoning we need 5 signings , and hleb to go only .
May 23, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Maybe Hleb isn`t an excellent player but still he is one of 2-3 best players in Arsenal. And if he leaves the team will have big problems especially because his leave will make Cesk frustrate for they are friends (and don`t forget that Flaminy has already left). And due to that stupid wages structure club won`t be able to attract world class players. Consider all these factors and next season you will see: midfielders will play much worse and unprodactive and Arsenal won`t win any titles again. Change Club owners` minds
May 23, 2008 at 1:25 pm
See my point Chris?!! cant even spell for ! Drunk as a skunk he is!!
May 23, 2008 at 1:27 pm
No one had ever heard of manchester until bloody Coronation street, and no one had heard of bloody liverpool before the Beatles. And as for spurs, my dog can’t remember when they last won the league coz my dog is only 47 years old. And as for Madrid, Barcelona, Milan & Turin & couldn’t give a XXXX about them. ……..and its Arsenal. Arsenal F C, where by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen.
…….Gee, it didn’t take you IT blokes long. Love the new funnies. And its good night from me, & its good night from Captain Morgan.
May 23, 2008 at 1:28 pm
lol!! Night GG, coronation street ha ha!!
May 23, 2008 at 1:31 pm
whats happened to the arsenal fans forum on arsenal tv anybody?
May 23, 2008 at 1:32 pm
George…. you been drinking mate?
May 23, 2008 at 1:34 pm
A little boy was excited about his first day at school.
So excited in fact, that only a few minutes after class
started, he realized that he desperately needed to go to
the bathroom. So he raised his hand politely to ask if
he could be excused. Of course the teacher said yes, but
asked him to be quick.
Five minutes later he returned, looking more desperate
and embarrassed. “I can’t find it”, he admitted.
The teacher sat him down and drew him a little diagram
to where he should go and aske