First things first, Ade if you’re reading this we apologise for ripping into you yesterday after we all read the Daily Mail back page.
We said, if it wasn’t true, go on Arsenal.com and say so, you did, a little late mind, but you did, so Arsenal, go sue the shit out of the Daily Mail, maybe the money we get would fund a player!
Shame Hleb hadn’t the same class as Adebayor, unless he does something soon I think he should be shoved in the stiffs for a season, greedy bastard, just like Flamini, shit for 3 years, 1 good season and he wants out.
The Sun says we’ve signed Ben Arfa for £16 million and we have been alerted over Richards as he ponders his future, well after yesterdays debacle, I’ll wait and see what Arsenal.com say about that.
Top four Tottenham joker Jenas says they can finish above Arsenal next season, they say that every season don’t they? they can’t even finish in the top ten yet they still tell the press they can finish above us, what a complete bunch of talentless wankers, enough time spent on them, that’s probably more than’s been said than all the blog sites in Tottenham this week, both of them!
There is a chance that someone can get Samir Nasri from LOM for £12 million, please let it be us, he is just what we need, Hleb like but with an end product, bring him in and sling Hleb out, or at least give him some competition.
Have Ben Arfa out wide and Ramos at center back and we’d do anyone, that would have me licking my lips, that’s for sure.
A word on 80’s muppet ‘SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER’S’ very own, Kevin Keegan, he tells the world that to break into the top 4 would take £150 million, whilst south coast’s ‘dodgy’ muppet backed him up, and he’s spent zillions himself, as well as benefiting hugely from our benevolence.
Funny that, I thought Newcastle had spent as much as the Mancs and the scousers over the Premiership years, Kev son, do your homework before you open your gob, you twat.
Same of course could be said of us over Ade (get the facts first) but as soon as we found out it was rubbish, we retracted, and that’s the way professions handle situations, know when you’ve made a huge mistake and do something about it, are you reading Arsenal???
May 10, 2008 at 8:46 am
Yep sign Nasri asap, 12 mil is cheap!
Cant see that Ben Arfa story anywhere?
May 10, 2008 at 8:46 am
Apparently the Mirror are reporting that we are after Vincent Kompany from Hamburg. I just think the journo’s read these sorts of websites & then stick in a name the fans want so people buy the paper.
May 10, 2008 at 8:47 am
There’s no chance we’ll sign Ben Arfa, Nasri or anyone else like that, stop dreaming.
May 10, 2008 at 8:49 am
Evo, it’s in the Sun, GMR you could be right, but him or Ramos would do it!
May 10, 2008 at 8:50 am
Sundays Team
Fabianski
Eboue-Gallas-Song-Clichy
Traore-Gilberto-Denilson-Gibbs
Walcott-Bendtner
May 10, 2008 at 8:50 am
My friend who is close to Ben Arfa called me yesterday and told me Arfa is on the way to Arsenal and the sun says we’ve singed him.I think it is true.Good news
May 10, 2008 at 8:53 am
Phobia- your guru ways better be right, i hope your on the money!
i just found the story, not much to read into it, but it would be glory days if he’s on the way!
May 10, 2008 at 8:53 am
How close?
May 10, 2008 at 8:56 am
There may be truth in Arsenal contacting Lyon over Ben Arfa but I just cannot believe Lyon would have passed that info on to the player just yet what with them being in a title struggle with Bordeaux.
I just can’t see them unsettling a player they may need just yet & also they are an extremely difficult club to deal with, if Arsenal had made a bid I think they’d have made it public news in the hope of getting others interested & forcing the price up. They have done that with just about every player they’ve sold in recent times so I can’t see that changing now.
May 10, 2008 at 9:01 am
I just had my first AKB on Grovers, I forgot it’s Saturday and it’s a school holiday, apparantley we’re not allowed to speculate on newspaper stories now!
May 10, 2008 at 9:02 am
Phobia
my close friend ade said he wants more money next season too
May 10, 2008 at 9:04 am
nasri or ben arfa would be tasty. not gonna cry too much if “white ronaldihno” takes his 11 goals in three years to milan
May 10, 2008 at 9:07 am
I can’t find anything on ‘The sun’s’ website regarding Ben Arfa!! Is it just in the actual paper rather than online??
May 10, 2008 at 9:10 am
only a small snipper GMR, here you go–>
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1146903.ece
May 10, 2008 at 9:11 am
I found it on Libel football but they quote the Sun.
Arsenal are set to land Olympique Lyon wing ace Hatem Ben Arfa.
The Sun says the Gunners have won the race to grab Ben Arfa.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger beat Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United to land the Tunisia-born star.
And Wenger has agreed a £16million deal for the 21-year-old, who was called into the French national team last season as a replacement for Louis Saha.
May 10, 2008 at 9:11 am
may be just press, but a signing like that would be excellent news this early in the transfer window. i agree, ben afra is the kind of player we need, ball-skills and finishing ability. i like this news, thanks for the info geoff.
May 10, 2008 at 9:12 am
So Nasri, Ben Arfa in….1 more to go? who’s it gonna be?
May 10, 2008 at 9:13 am
You’re welcome James, let’s hope it’s true, I think there’s been too much Ben Arfa talk for it not to be.
May 10, 2008 at 9:13 am
Thanks for the link Evo!!
May 10, 2008 at 9:16 am
morning chaps , just why do I drink red wine , headache . Anyway . hope the ben arfa thing is true and well done to arsene for coming out and giving milan a fucking good slagging and stating the values of the arsenal and for telling hleb to shut up and get on with it . I am really not sure about whats going on with hleb but a least the boss is saying fuck you , i will do whats right for the club noy you ,
perhaps arsene is growing some balls , bout time , now get the ballsy cheque book out
May 10, 2008 at 9:18 am
Here, here!
May 10, 2008 at 9:18 am
Yeah Wenger did well in the press conference, i think it was because of the shirt he was wearing!
May 10, 2008 at 9:19 am
Arsene’s made himself look a fool with the comments regarding AC Milan.
We continually go looking for free transfers with kids which morally has to be worse than taking an established player on a free.
As for our history being clean I take it he’s forgotten about our dodgy promotion & GG brown paper bag!!
May 10, 2008 at 9:21 am
cheers geoff
also , yes james , would,nt it be great to get some good signings on early
a , before euros increase valuation
b, so we don,t have wait untill 11.55pm on august tha 31st !!
May 10, 2008 at 9:23 am
come come gmr , at least wenger is having a go , do want him to say nothing.
May 10, 2008 at 9:25 am
Don’t get too carried away guys. It’s the F***ing Sun!! Nasri would be even better though.
May 10, 2008 at 9:26 am
soz about the typing this am , must be still pissed .
May 10, 2008 at 9:31 am
Unfortunately Ben Arfa only made a small paragraph in the actual paper, and I am sure if there was more to it, then it would probably be getting a headline. At least its positive not negative like yesterday
Kompany is a link going in the right direction, although Micah Richards would be good he is smaller than Kolo and Gallas, and I think Wenger is after tall and commanding.
May 10, 2008 at 9:35 am
Pat I just realised it’s Pat the gooner, not Patthe gooner, what a plonker I am!!!
I’m in and out today guys, so if a knobber gets on you lot deal with him, don’t forget it’s Saturday! Kompany would be good though.
May 10, 2008 at 9:36 am
Im not going to continue my rants from yesterday im over it ..
however geoff /pedro one last rant for 2day as you NEW POSTED ME !
I wouldn’t apologize to ade .. this article came out in april and no one on A.COM
commented on it then ! yesterdays article never said he would leave .. people presumed that because he was asking for 80 k (which arsene wouldn’t pay in a pink fit )
He wants a wage rise or theyll look at other options or as his agent said !
his agent also said this !
ades agent in april !
“We have not received concrete offers,” said Adebayor’s representative Stephane Courbis. ( ade didn’t have a press conference in april about that 1st sentence !)
“Obviously, it is logical that Emmanuel is demanded. ( what are you telling us here?)
“I have to meet his club when the season ends to speak about his future.(more money please ! or he will reconsider his options obviously)
“Today he is happy at Arsenal, he showed it on Monday, but you know football, everything goes very quickly. (how about tomorrow when you dont get 80k ?)
“However, we will not talk before the season ends, as Arsenal are focused on trying to finish second.” (seasons close to ending tomorrow in fact so ill come out friday whilst arsenal is in turmoil and have the cunts over a barrel ! )
Today he is happy at Arsenal, ???? sounds very TH14 too me !
it sounds like his wages will now be talked about behind closed doors !
but where you right in yesterdays post ??? OBVIOUSLY !
ade only came out yesterday and said he’s not leaving ,
technically he’s correct ! currently he isnt .. we pay him im sure he will stay !
theres no smoke without fire .. and his agent made a press release on both occasions
i know how i read into it ..
he’s currently getting 35 k … he wants 80 !
like him or not im sure he’s after greasing his palms for his 30 goal display
this season , no matter how he acquired them !
im sure if arsene dont come to the party , we might get this all come back to haunt us again !
May 10, 2008 at 9:41 am
hahaha…that will be the day Ethan….maybe you need a few more San Miguels to sooth your thoughts!
May 10, 2008 at 9:45 am
Ben Arfa like sagna are reports im inclined to believe .
he is the only real target arsene has come out and spoken about .
he isnt going to cost mega bucks like eto - robinho etc..
powers of observations say he is the odds on runner to be in the arsenal squad
next season providing all the prices and conditions can be worked out ..
its a no brainer for me that there is substance to this rumor ..
i mean how can phobia be wrong !!?
May 10, 2008 at 9:46 am
spurs will finish above arsenal?!!!!
that will be the day
cnut jenas… one carling cup victory and they want to finish above us??
twat…
May 10, 2008 at 9:49 am
So Ethan you can’t be persuaded then!
May 10, 2008 at 9:51 am
evo
sorry mate i only drink top shelf
black russian doubles ! maybe
May 10, 2008 at 9:52 am
mmmm, san miguel… i like beer! =D
still though, no way he’s getting 80k pounds p/w, no fucking way! 50 is the height of any raise that he’ll get, and even that is a massive increase in his annual wage, somewhere in the range of 40% i think. the other bad thing about this is that if arsene does cave to demands (doubtful, but who knows (if they are true demands too)), it reduces the amount we can spend (not that thats a problem with highbury being sold, etc), and also lets the other players know that if they kick up a stink, they can potentially get a 200% increase in there annual wage… utter bullshit imo, rumours like this should be slapped down as soon as it surfaces in a most thorough manner!
May 10, 2008 at 9:53 am
only if i can persuade you on SONG
May 10, 2008 at 9:54 am
Pat
vincent kompany whilst lean is 190 cm tall !
he will tower over both gallas and toure !
he’s mobile He is considered “one of Europe’s premier talents
he will do just fine !
Glad arsene is listening
May 10, 2008 at 9:55 am
so if we did sign ben arfa.. for 16 mill… wouldn’t it be the biggest transfer ever.
May 10, 2008 at 9:55 am
possibly…
May 10, 2008 at 9:56 am
Ethan
I am going to leave Ade here, I think the one thing we agree on is that he is not currently worth 80k a week but lets deal in facts
There is no direct quote from either Ade or Ade’s agent demanding anything, let alone 80k. If he had said that, the Mail would have quoted it
The quotes made in April were in response to questions put to the agent regarding supposed interest from AC Milan. Unfortunately you only see the quotes and not the actual questions put to them and it is the reporters job to ask the right question to get the response they wanted in the first place
Agents talk is always going to aimed at getting more money for his client, it is his job. I personally dont listen to anything that an agent says.
May 10, 2008 at 9:57 am
ethan did you not say recently that your were givin up the ade bashing?
of was that someone else,
May 10, 2008 at 9:57 am
*or was that someone else?
May 10, 2008 at 10:01 am
chris
maybe
May 10, 2008 at 10:04 am
get on the speculation band wagon, thats way more fun!
May 10, 2008 at 10:05 am
Adebayor knows there are fans who support him, he knows also how tough the pressure is at the top. The best way to show your appreciation is to sing: “Adebayor, bring him the ball and he will score”
Ade has heard the fans and loves the tune, so Ade bring us the goals and we’ll keep singing.
It’s exciting to see Adebayor score, his goals are really blasts out of the blue and sudden, that’s one of his great skills, quickly getting into a position which is indefensible to get a good ball and bang it in…..unstoppable. To score as many “unstoppables” as he has shows the instinct of a true striker….thats how top strikers make their trade.
Wenger’s statements were strong and positive and challenged everyones ability to think for themselves, he presented as many facts as he could publicly about our scouting system (220 on the books “Arsenal” quality.) and once again put his head on the line for the club with hist intent on action within the transfer market, and how many points we’re aiming for. How many other clubs are aiming for 90-92 points next season?
The mass media should always be brought to account for their inaccuracies, and well done Geoff for highlighting the Daily Mail, those Newspaper brands who only go by “rumours” or complete and utter fabrications need to be given as much attention as a story itself. Too often we see Newspaper articles and no one asks, who the fuck wrote this and why.
People have been trained to read a Newspaper and not even check who wrote it, sometimes accepting or rejecting nformation without justification!
May 10, 2008 at 10:05 am
here is a great tip for you guys,
if you are ever on a site that requires registration to read an article and you dont want to go thru the motions and give your email away
go to http://www.bugmenot.com type in the website eg http://www.nytimes.com and get login and password from there, been using it for years
May 10, 2008 at 10:08 am
is that diaby finest cuts?
May 10, 2008 at 10:10 am
chris.. does that work for ahem… the other sites as well??
May 10, 2008 at 10:10 am
it looks like it, a bold statement for next season?
May 10, 2008 at 10:11 am
it might well do, but it wont get you into sites that cost money, has a disposabl email service as well which is great
May 10, 2008 at 10:11 am
Ethen something is wrong with your email, I get half your comments in moderation. We never used to.
Finest, is that Abou Diaby in your picture?
May 10, 2008 at 10:12 am
hey guys
hatem ben arfa and samir nasri would be great, stick abou diaby in the middle now.
but both of these guys are not wingers though, but arsene loves his full backs to get forward.
Vincent Kompany is good, but i think we should go for Lucio, he is tall and will win that long ball against us
May 10, 2008 at 10:14 am
Cheers Chris, that was one I already know about but you seem very clued up about softtware and sites. I have a few I could suggest myslelf…..maybe we could do a user suggestion of useful websites/free software, a seperate little section, I’m sure between us we could all find a few to contribute that tohers may not be aware of. Yes Choy, you’re spot on, it’s Diaby, only a proper Arsenal fan would know that
May 10, 2008 at 10:14 am
Either would do me Gunnershabz, I’m off for a bit will return later.
May 10, 2008 at 10:15 am
I work out in Germany a fair bit and they all rave about a defender that plays for Werder Bremen called Per Mertesacker
I have never seen him but they reckon he would suit Arsenal, Anyone seen him play?
May 10, 2008 at 10:16 am
ben arfa is not a winger? gunnershabz…?
May 10, 2008 at 10:17 am
Hatem Ben Arfa, am sure he loves to play through the middle and also Samir Nasri, so i am confused… are we going to get a geniune winger.
am dreaming, if we have carlos vela, hatem ben arfa and samir nasri in midfield next season.
Vincent Kompany, Cristian Zapata and Ezequil Garay are the defenders we should be looking at and also micah richards if we can afford him.
May 10, 2008 at 10:17 am
maybe you have unwittingly put in a anti ade bashing filter Geoff
Lucio is a great shout Gunnershabz, is he not over 30 though? shame we have that silly rule especially for defenders.
May 10, 2008 at 10:17 am
finest do you know what rapidshare is
May 10, 2008 at 10:17 am
Mertsacker is a beast Pat.
May 10, 2008 at 10:18 am
Valencia have received a £15 million bid from Inter Milan for midfielder David Silva.
DiarioSport says Barcelona and Real Madrid are also chasing the Spain international, but it’s Inter who have moved first with their major offer.
Barca have registered their interest with Valencia, but are yet to table a formal proposal.
David Silva is good, and wenger was interested in him few seasons back
May 10, 2008 at 10:19 am
I dont think Micah is an option, he will cost too much in the bidding war and he is smaller than Song, Toure and Gallas, so could be considered too similar to what we have
May 10, 2008 at 10:19 am
Lucio is 29 years old
defenders between 27 and 31 are in their peak
May 10, 2008 at 10:20 am
Is that a good beast or a crap one Geoff
May 10, 2008 at 10:20 am
Lazio midfielder Valon Behrami wants a move to Spain.
Italian sources say the Switzerland international has already instructed his agents to find him a Spanish Liga club for next season.
Atletico Madrid, Valencia and Sevilla are among those being linked with Behrami.
another good buy, right winger, better then eboue
May 10, 2008 at 10:21 am
I agree with you GunnerShabz but Wenger has this over 30 one year contract rule
Just checked his stats, he was 30 2 days ago
May 10, 2008 at 10:22 am
Barcelona are returning to the negotiating table for Racing Santander defender Ezequiel Garay.
With Gabriel Milito ruled out for six months due to knee injury, Barca are back in the market for a new centre-half and are ready to resume talks with Racing for youngster Garay.
Racing are seeking at least £10 million for Garay, who had agreed personal terms with Barca in January before the original deal collapsed.
We can nick him if wenger is real interested…. cultured centre back
May 10, 2008 at 10:22 am
Pat….
But we need someone like him experienced played in world cup finals, champions league
he is what we need at this current time and he great at set pieces
May 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
The agent of Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani has cooled reports of a move to Arsenal.
“Aquilani is a Roma player and I don’t think Rosella Sensi will let these players get away,” said agent Franco Zavaglia.
“Francesco Totti will end his career in a Roma jersey, while Daniele De Rossi and Aquilani are requested by the top European clubs, but I doubt either of them will want to leave.”
i think aquilani would been a great addition to the midfield
May 10, 2008 at 10:24 am
I’ve just googled it Chris, I take it it’s a favourite of yours to find apps. to download.
May 10, 2008 at 10:24 am
May 08′ Wenger - We will sign one attacking player.
Sep 08′ Wenger - Rosicky is a” new signing” (with a side grin)
&%^&%
May 10, 2008 at 10:25 am
If that David Silva story is true, I wonder where that leaves Hleb,
They are very similar players. I wonder if Inter dont want the hassle of either being accused of an illegal approach or a drawn out legal battle to get him on article 17
May 10, 2008 at 10:27 am
Definately Lucio has looked excellent everytime I have seen him.
do you think Wenger would drop the over 30 rule though, and would he move from Bayern. It would be a quality signing though
May 10, 2008 at 10:28 am
i am so curious who are the “220 players want to join arsenal”
david villa is sure one of them
hatem ben arfa and samir nasri am sure they would love to join arsenal
May 10, 2008 at 10:28 am
;-}
May 10, 2008 at 10:29 am
it appears that i owe ade an apology also. However i believe it is important that players do speak up and support the manager and club and pledge some loyalty.We as fans will only scream our hearts out for a team and players we know will also show support for us. It works both ways. Always support Arsene though no question, no doubt ,BELIEVE!!
May 10, 2008 at 10:30 am
I play Sunday League occaisionally, would that class me as one of the 220 players that want to join Arsenal?
May 10, 2008 at 10:30 am
gunnershabz…
i’m sure there are a lot of them…
May 10, 2008 at 10:30 am
yeah if it ends up in court it will be too much hassle for them
May 10, 2008 at 10:31 am
the thing is…. we dont know what happens behind the scenes
wenger is very discreet when signing players
eduardo happened out of now where
sagna we knew all summer but no one else knew what kind of player he is
May 10, 2008 at 10:32 am
David Silva is a player we should be looking at though
joaquin would be the best replacement for Hleb
even everton showing more ambitions then us
May 10, 2008 at 10:36 am
Pat they’re already going to be investigated, this could get them banned from the transfer market for 2 years, so i gurantee you they don’t want the hassle of a hot potato, we’ve made enough moves for the risk for them to be too high to take….basically Inter must have expected Arsenal to just “allow it” and that we’d see them as too big to stop. Anyone who tries to touch any of our players will be taken to Fifa. Any player invoking article 17…Arsenal will keep the player out of football until the case is over….which could be 3-6 months into the transfer season. Inter are only after him because he’s “on the cheap” they wouldn’t touch him with the transfer fee we would expect for him…..or not since the boss wants to keep him at all costs, as he does the rest. The formula is simple, don’t detract from what we’ve already got, only add and we’ll have a big and good quality squad, a mix of talented youth and experienced players. Hopefully we’ll get at least 1 experienced player, someone who like Fabregas, Gallas etc. has 200+ pro games under their belt, a couple of those would certainly help our youth development out.
May 10, 2008 at 10:37 am
wenger threating court action is just his way of ensuring hleb leaves with a full transfer fee to arsenal . as if hleb tries to bail on a Websters arsene is threatening action ..
Im sure it means he’s leaving with no way back like his agent stated , i think all this bollocks is just to ensure wenger gets his 15- 20 million transfer fee . the debate that hleb is staying i think is obvious .. He wont .. wenger just doesn’t want 2 of his best leaving without any monetary compensation .
END of
geoff i think i needed to log into wordpress !
i think that was the problem .
May 10, 2008 at 10:38 am
Dont forget Philippe Mexes as a possible CB
I think we have been linked with him before (But then he is French, I think we are linked with everyone French)
May 10, 2008 at 10:39 am
Here’s one Chris, a total toolkit for anyone who has a computer, there are anti-spyware tools, anti-virus’, firewalls, everything your computer needs for free.
http://www.filehippo.com
May 10, 2008 at 10:45 am
pat we agree on something mexes is great ..
but kompany is 190 cm .. 6 foot 4 !
so not sure how you think he is smaller than gallas- toure
i for one would welcome kompany 22 and already a finished article !
May 10, 2008 at 10:46 am
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May 10, 2008 at 10:46 am
Fucking hell !!! i am gonna take a wank if the Ben Arfa story is true.
May 10, 2008 at 10:47 am
program*
May 10, 2008 at 10:47 am
But it is probably a Sun Fabrication.
May 10, 2008 at 10:51 am
No I said Micah Richards is smaller than Kolo etc, it was probably bad grammar
That is why I said Kompany is a move in the right direction
May 10, 2008 at 10:52 am
No I think it’s been around for too long for it to be unture, it was like this when we signed Robin, Hleb and Rosicky.
Sorry to use those paragon’s of injuries and ice cream virtues, but it’s feels the same.
May 10, 2008 at 10:53 am
Something I have missed is that Abramovich has not been at the last 11 Chelsea games.
Is he losing interest in his toy or is there something on in Russia?
May 10, 2008 at 10:54 am
Geoff that Per Mertesacker earlier
Is he a good beast or a crap one
May 10, 2008 at 10:57 am
Well at least there an article on us buying Ben Arfa, Im gona take that as a positive. Nice to hear Wenger showing a bit of fire. Its our club Im someone has to stand up to these clubs/players. If they wana bring it……Come on then I really like the look of Ben Arfa, lets splash the cash sooner rather than later
May 10, 2008 at 10:57 am
pat something about russian politics re putin and helping his freind out i heard
May 10, 2008 at 10:58 am
also sagna ..
rumors all summer only to do the deal in the death knock of the transfer period ,
ben arfa is our most likely candidate ..
has the player actually came out and said anything thou ?
i cant remember reading anything on it ?
May 10, 2008 at 10:59 am
Yup, Kremlin boys all stick together, Usmanov, Putin, Abramovich…all the same crew.
May 10, 2008 at 10:59 am
He is a good beast, sorry Pat I’ve been in and out!
May 10, 2008 at 11:00 am
People are deluded if they think we’re signing Ben Arfa or anyone else with a large transfer fee. We won’t sign anyone.
May 10, 2008 at 11:03 am
Minty, have faith, 16 mil these day is not huge, we got that for an aging Henry!
May 10, 2008 at 11:03 am
I would LUV IT if we get Benjamin Arthur and Sammo N…
Doubt it would happen though. Don’t think we’ll get either.
May 10, 2008 at 11:04 am
minty
love the positivity !
May 10, 2008 at 11:13 am
i think we were linked with Mexes years and years ago
May 10, 2008 at 11:13 am
Angry Loser,
Wenger makes a fool of himself & the club when he makes stupid statements!! To suggest Arsenal’s entire history is clean (which he did) is laughable. My point about GG was just a more recent example, but I notice you didn’t have anything to say about our oiginal promotion.
I have no problem with Wenger slating a player for his actions or even clubs like Chelski, Inter Milan, Real Madrid or Barca for the illegal tapping up of our players, but why attack AC Milan, what have they done wrong??
Sorry but anyone accepting his idea that we are a bigger club than Milan is quite frankly an idiot!!
May 10, 2008 at 11:16 am
Sorry I mean Angry Loner not Loser!! That’ll teach me to read properly!!
May 10, 2008 at 11:20 am
Blimey GMR that was a long time ago, he’s a strange one, I’ve got him on probation, there’s been a few that haven’t made it out of the bin.
Ethan, you’re still having problems and I can’t work it out, Pedro’s at work today but will have a good look tonight, bare with me mate!
May 10, 2008 at 11:22 am
Why is noone mentioning Pandev. Wenger was asked some time ago and he said ‘ I know the player etc’. He could be the replacement for Hleb or Rosicky.
May 10, 2008 at 11:22 am
What does people think of Marquez? I rate him highly & hes a bit of a no messing around centre back. Not the greatest in the air though
May 10, 2008 at 11:23 am
If anyone thinks Arsenal’s history is innocent, they should read this book
http://www.arsenal-world.co.uk/news/loadfeat.asp?cid=EDZ3&id=184630
I have just finished it is a a good read. Some of the things we got away with in the early years is incredible
May 10, 2008 at 11:24 am
Sorry Book title is Rebels for the Cause: The Alternative History of Arsenal Football Club
May 10, 2008 at 11:25 am
Geoff, yeah my boy is ill & I’ve just got back online & seen his comment!! I wouldn’t have bothered responding but I see he has posted a couple of other normal comments since so assume he’s still reading!!
May 10, 2008 at 11:26 am
He’s being watched though! I hope your son gets better, I’ve been there.
May 10, 2008 at 11:28 am
patthegooner, thats exactly my point!!
I want Wenger to take a stand like everyone else, but considering the amount of times he’s had to do just that why now attack a team that hasn’t done anything wrong to us??
The Flamini situation was down to Wenger, the board & Flamini himself. He didn’t think it was morally wrong when Campbell done the exact same thing to Spuds!!
Anyway I’m more interested in the Ben Arfa news myself. I really hope its true as an early signing would give everyone a lift, especially a sort after player!!
May 10, 2008 at 11:29 am
Thanks Geoff.
May 10, 2008 at 11:29 am
What about Steven Taylor at Newcastle
Only a year left on his contract, but negotiations have stalled
May 10, 2008 at 11:31 am
I like him but I’m not sure he’s the finished article yet, I think he’s a southerner though.
May 10, 2008 at 11:32 am
Football is about winning.Why is Real Madrid,Pool and Manchester United the most popular teams in the world.Simple, they win titles and have done for many years.We havnt even won the European cup even though we have tried for 12 seasons now under Wenger that is piss poor by any standard.
May 10, 2008 at 11:38 am
I think he was born in London, but I am sure he has a Geordie Accent
Maybe not quite finished but then neither is Micah who many want, I think given his contract situation, the fact we could offer him CL football and put him more in the England limelight could sway him into joining us
At least we are speculating on optimism today instead of the bleak media coverage of the last few days
May 10, 2008 at 11:40 am
what do you think about granys suggestion of a play off rather than goal difference when both teams finsih with teh same points?
May 10, 2008 at 11:42 am
I like Steven Taylor as well. Considering he’s playing in one of the worst defences in the league he’s the only one that keeps it together in some part, plus he can play as a CB or RB.
May 10, 2008 at 11:44 am
AG has only suggested that because he knows Man Utd will win the league. He wouldn’t be saying it if Chelski’s goal difference was better than Man Utd’s.
I like it the way it is because as this season has proved goal difference can be vital which encourages attacking play instead of the negative rubbish chelski have played nearly the whole season!!
May 10, 2008 at 11:45 am
Good article as always but I think before we all get carried away about who’s coming or not I think we should look at Arsene’s recent history about the type of player he has signed recently and it should give an indication if a rumour has any substance.
From the ones of the top of my head they fall into two catagories.
1) Young, plenty of potential, usually Western European or South American and not yet established in the international set-up. ie Fabregas, Vela, Denilson, Diaby, Walcott. Clichy, Traore etc etc.
2)Aged 21-25, from an Eastern European or African Background or league(s), considerably cheaper in wages or fees than anything he might purchase from La Liga or the Premiership and not to high on transfer fees. ie Rosicky, Hleb, Adebayor, Fabianski, Eduardo(originally being Brazilian but plays for Croatia) and Sagna( French of Senegalise origin).
Although they may be exceptions, this seems to be the general rule. Therefore rumours concerning Ben Arfa could well be true but someone like Villa you can definately rule out. He very rarely will spend over £10mil on a player or above £20mil and will certainly hasn’t brought in a “big name” since Overmars who as far as I’m concerned was his only big name transfer. Even Henry and Pires were considerably cheaper and had not lived up to previous expectations.
Bearing all this in mind, the profile of a typical Wenger signing this summer is likely to fall into the above two types. So out of the so called 220 names you can probably rule out 200 immediately and out of the remaining 20 only 5 are Wenger types of which he will pick the 2 or 3 the team requires who fall into the creative midfielder/strong defender characters unless more players leave of course.
May 10, 2008 at 11:47 am
thats true GMR, i refuse to watch chelsea as it holds no entertainment value to me what so ever, the soaps would hold my attention better,
i assume everybody will be watching the arsenal match today via their PC’s?
May 10, 2008 at 11:49 am
pat i think your barking up the wrong tree wenger wouldn’t pool from the EPL
richards - taylor .. Nar, he will look to Europe , your keyboard mileage should focus on abroad !
May 10, 2008 at 11:53 am
not sure whats going on geoff ,
checked my email nothing to address there .
logged into word press the blighters ..
all i can think of is i used ethangunner before when i was unregistered
and now word press might be freaking out ..
but all seems fine this end ..
May 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Very good analysis pablo, that gives us an insight into the logic bearing in mind the facts and the situation as it is.
One point I’d like to make about English players. They keep on playing in the Championship….and that is usually not the best route to get into Premier league football. If some of them went to other leagues, not necessarily the big ones like Spain, Italy or Germany. Instead of playing in a second tier league they could play with a first tier club and become title winners in that country, that would give them a chance to become Premier League players…then there would be much more of them. Who wouldn’t buy a British player who has won the title in Sweden or Holland or Belgium, or anywhere else in Eruope.
Even the Czech league, a lot of them could do with being trained at good clubs like Sparta Prague or Slavia Prague. But instead they choose to play for clubs like Norwich or Preston, perennial underachievers. To be a winner you need to come from a winning club. But maybe those players would have been bought out of the Championship by top teams…..but they haven’t and why? Because it[’s much easier to train a Championship standard of player, the Championship is BELOW most of Europe’s top leagues and for much less they can train their own ABOVE Championship standard, so it may be a case of both not good enough and too expensive.
There are teams in the UEFA cup which are much better than some of those in the Premier League (Middlesbrough, Newcastle Reading, Bolton, Blackburn) so joining a good club is important to become a top player.
May 10, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Give me that link again please Chris.
May 10, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Just a slow news day Ethan and I am waiting for the Palace game
so trying to find CB’s over 6ft 2
May 10, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Danish Gooner - Even leeds made the CL semi final, so the sun shines on a dogs arse at least once, our day will come!
May 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm
pablo
spot on the money ..
i would steer away from the african nations ..
it seems to kill us at ANC time ..
they need to run there competition at a similar time to the euro’s
it only makes sense !
i do feel ben arfa is arsenes only real statement of intent.
lets hope no one else bids on him ..
May 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/
May 10, 2008 at 12:25 pm
today ???
isnt all games being played on sunday 3pm ??
May 10, 2008 at 12:45 pm
What position does Arfa play?
May 10, 2008 at 12:53 pm
sunday 15:00, me stupid
May 10, 2008 at 1:20 pm
no chance of any of these players, wenger has been bangin on for 2 or 3 seasons about 2 or 3 ‘top quality signings’, well where are they, pundits say the players arnt there, they are but you have to pay for them, thats not our style we like to rummage thru the bargain basement. where do manu, chelski n liverpool get ther players……. they spend money on them.
Get the cheque book out n spend some money on good players ……. for once!!!!!!!!!!!
May 10, 2008 at 1:20 pm
A Goal keeper please please please. We need a fucking goalkeeper.
May 10, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Gomes
Sagna, Alex, Gallas, Clichy
Fabulous, Sicky/RVP, Diaby, Ben Arfa
Ettooeeee, Bendnter
Theo, Fab 2, Song, Denny, Toure
May 10, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Really pissed off now. Where are these great players Chavs, Mancscum and Pool buy. Torres yes but he wasn’t great before, Anderson was he great then?, Malouda another superstar. The only real superstars these cunts have signed are Shevva, Veron, The Argy forward who’s name escapes me. and they all flopped. Drogshit, The Winker, Vidic etc were not global stars, so what is the difference between them and us really. Are they bargain basement or were they overpriced? Please don’t mention Hargreaves, Carrick, Naan bread as they are average to good.
May 10, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I’m not sure I would swap Eto’o for Ade, I don’t think Eto’o has looked good this season and Barca can fuck off for all the tapping up shit they’ve done.
May 10, 2008 at 1:35 pm
The only difference between the top 2 not Pool as they are not better than us is the players they pay fortunes for to sit on their arses. I personally don’t want to see this happen at the Arsenal. 16 Good to great players yes but 30 is just not feasible. Look at the other teams fringe players who want out, there are more of these than want to leave us. Trouble is they will take huge wage drops to leave the comfort they enjoy.
May 10, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Geoff I am not sure about Eto’o either but apparently him and AW are mates, he is a big name player and AW could resurrect his career as he did with others. He is as good if not better than Anelka and a lot of guys wanted him at the Arsenal. Like you though mate I am not sure. I like the look of the Hunter.
May 10, 2008 at 1:41 pm
ARSENAL 2010
Fab 2
Sagna, Nordveilt, Djouroue, Clichy,
Fab 1 Vela, Barazite, Willshere Merida
Theo Bendtner
May 10, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Best ever.
Lehman
Sagna, TA, O’Leary, Winterburn
Fab 1, PV4, Chippy Brady, Pires
TH14, DB10
Seaman, Wrighty, Overmars, Sansom, Keown,Raddy, Geordie, Charlie G, Alex James (one for Grandad god bless him) Rice,
Try beating that team
May 10, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I would not swap Etoo for Ade, but If it was possible, I would buy either Benzema or Etoo to partner Ade
I do expect Barca to come in for him though, but I reckon it will be cash only or a swap with players we dont want. Apparently he is top of Pep’s wishlist.
What value would you put on Ade’s head? (Honestly Ethan)
I would not want to lose him, I really think he will be the finished article in a seasons time, but if an offer came at a silly amount like 25m then I think Arsenal would take it.
May 10, 2008 at 1:49 pm
El Tel
Are we playing 12 a side in 2010
May 10, 2008 at 1:51 pm
for a keeper ive heard theres a guy Rami Shaaban we could take a look at???
May 10, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Angry Loner
Now that would work well, Hleb for Etoo and bring in Ben Arfa.
Ben arfa, Rosicky, Theo, Vela, Gibbs, Randall, Lansbury as our winger options.
I would be happy with that
May 10, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Lansbury, Gibbs, Randall, Vela, and even theo who can’t play well when hes starts game against good teams. haven’t proved they can be relied upon at all. Gibbs and randall couldn’t even starts games for Norwich and Burnley.
Rosicky is always injured. So that just leaves us Ben Arfa.
I hope Wenger wouldn’t be stupid enough to put us in that situation next season.
May 10, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Am I the only one that wishes the story about Ade was true so we could get rid of him??? He may have scored 30 goals this season but his first touch is pathetic … kids in a sunday park game control the ball better than him ……. In some of our crucial games this season in the premiership and european games his abysmal first touch was a pass that started the oppositions attacks. Our defenders and midfield can’t keep clearing the ball from danger only to see it come straight back because our main striker has no first touch control. Yes 30 goals but how much pressure on our defence (and how many goals) came from a move that started with his pass to the opposition. He’s a liability and should go … And if any mug team thinks he’s worth £25m+ (Angry Loner) then we should be biting their hands off to get that for such an ordinary player.
May 10, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Nasri > Ben Arfa
May 10, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Paulinho
I think you may be thinking he is stupid then as I can honestly see Ben Arfa, Rosicky, Theo and Vela being our main width choices next season. If Rosicky could stay fit I would be happy with those four
I also heard that some of our kids are being promoted to the 1st team squad and I would imagine that they would include Gibbs and Randall and maybe even Wilshire. I was talking all competitions and I expect those youth additions will be our CC and maybe FA Cup starters.
May 10, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I love how you call for loyalty from players, yet soon as a trash paper writes something negative about them you attack our players and demand that they respond to trash. I am a cock sucker and take it up the arse.
May 10, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Barnsy;
I think you also been up my arse you faggot.
May 10, 2008 at 2:57 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vm77WGFcqPQ&feature=related
Adebayor’s hat-trick against Derby, 3 unstoppable goals, lightning quick Adebayor action!
First game of next season tomorrow, bring on the youth and lets beat Sunderland!
May 10, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Wilshere is a great talent. Randall and Gibbs? I just don’t see it. Look rank average to me. Bentley seemed on a much higher level and he wasn’t deemed good enough.
Unless these players are really outstanding talents like Wilshere I don’t see the point of them. Because they end up taking up important squad positions and we end up just selling them to some championship side when it becomes apparent they won’t cut it.
We’ve had enough of youth routine, time to wake up and have some proven class in our ranks.
May 10, 2008 at 2:58 pm
pat
15 million .. like you said work in progress .. and if he’s wanted this year 15 upto 20 if bidding is fierce ..
Listen im not saying he wont be a drogba of the future .. but we will have to persist
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for an unquantified amount of time before he is the finished article(ade) .. Can arsenal as a club afford another year or 2’s down time .. I say get Eto - get villa ! This club demands a big name . It needs a real commanding player to kill games off …
will the midfield be the same next season?? Huge question marks there ?!
will we get the same service ?? Who fuckin knows? ! (not even arsene knows
El Tel
bends is a plan B .. not a starter , not for at least 2 or 3 years ..
id like to see ETO next too either dudu or RVP / Theo
But im afraid theo will have to settle for right wing another season due to this EXODUS of the midfield .
Dont expect much from vela his last game was pretty average ..
he is like theo last year .. Still potential is there !
lets hope he makes the transition too the EPL , as i heard he likes spain !
May 10, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Pat, sory mat I never could count. Would be good to sneak an extra 1 in though
I knew the Ade knockers would return. His first touch and offsides are a joke aren’t they. So when TH14 was playing alone up fron it was great was it.Hands on hips scared to get a kicking and as for heading the ball well that was fun. I am not knocking the great TH14 but ton say Ade doesn’t hold the ball up is laughable. How come top defenders rate him so highly then. He moves defenders all across the line, he defends from the front and he scores goals,lots of goals. I don’t buy the I could score goals in this team nonsense as that is just not true. Ade isn’t the great TH14 but he is what we were looking for when TH14 was here. Oh by the way he scores in big games too.
May 10, 2008 at 3:08 pm
OK Barnsy and Angry loner are AKB’s that seem to be chatting each other up on the site so I’m throwing them off, sorry Grovers but it is Saturday and school is off, they won’t be allowed back on. Wankers.
May 10, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Am I the only one that wishes the story about Ade was true so we could get rid of him???
no mark !
your not .. ill also say our keeper needs to distribute better ,as i agree with your clearance statement . alumina has likened recently to kick it out into touch or go long for ade !
id rather see the ball go to the defenders and retain possession ..
A lot of people are blinded by his goal tally .. but its the same old story .. if you walk into a restaurant with 1 chef cooking , you had better like his food !
the goal tally was a direct result from him being the only cook in the kitchen !
30 goals in over 50 games ? with about 5-6+ chances a game ..
NOT GOOD ENOUGH !
but the reality is a lot of people have lowered there standards since TH 14 departure !
a lot are starting to actually believe our club wont succeed ! due to money restrictions. Considering we play a passing game full of tricky passing and movement
its very clear he is out of his depth !
why others cant see it , is beyond me ..
he’s not arsenal class and possibly will never be !
plus his agent is a cunt
May 10, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Ethan
I haven’t seen Vela play mate but he is getting rave reviews from everywhere. I only watch the Arsenal these days as the cheating has done me in. Gave up on Sky who are really Manc TV so I get info from you guys and the net. RVP could be better than the winker if only he wasn’t so brittle. I would like to see the purse on the wing as he plays there for Holland and he looks awesome.
May 10, 2008 at 3:11 pm
El Tel … the Ade knockers don’t return because we never go away … we see him for what he really is … an average player … a striker in the Dion Dublin league …. how you can even mention him in comparison to Henry is laughable …. …
May 10, 2008 at 3:12 pm
OK Ade must be shit then cos his agents a cunt.
May 10, 2008 at 3:15 pm
His agent is indeed a cunt, that Ethan we must all agree on!
May 10, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Hey Angry, fuck off to Arsenal.com, no one was talking to you anyway.
May 10, 2008 at 3:18 pm
He is totally different to TH14 so there is no comparison. What I was trying to say is Ade played up front alone (the only chef) and he never let us down. TH14 couldn’t play up alone as he just dropped deeper and deeper. TH14 wasn’t in some games either. TH14 had DB10 and Bobby to take some weight. Ade was alone or with the prolific Hleb. I never said Ade is the dogs nuts but he aint shit. Dion Dublin and Ade. Ok I give up.
May 10, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Ade’s strengths’s are Arsenal’s weaknessed and Arsenal’s strengths are Ade’s weaknesses.
They guy is plan b and nothing more….at this stage.
He scores alot of goals, but he does collateral damage to our team dynamic. Hleb and Cesc are disillusioned with his lack of generalship. Passing to him is like playing squash. The ball comes back with unwanted interest.
We need a Berbatov, a lubricant to spearhead our attack. Someone who can play Wengerball.
May 10, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Geoff well done mate get rid of the imposters. They probably don’t even support our Great Club.
May 10, 2008 at 3:20 pm
MY CLOSE FRIEND FROM FRANCE KNOWS BEN AFRA!
HE PHONED ME LAST NIGHT AND SAID BEN WAS CONSIDERING AN ARSENAL CONTRACT.
!!!NOW HE HAS ACCEPTED!!!
AND TO ANSWER YOU QUESTIONS MY FRIEND IS VERY CLOSE, WERE A GAY COPLE!
May 10, 2008 at 3:22 pm
They are probably too young to El Tel, they get parental controls lifted at the weekend which is why they’re on.
One last message for you, you little twat, if you had any real conviction or guts you would have used your real email address, not a made up one, now fuck off you’re not welcome here.
May 10, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Pauly I am not saying you are wrong but we haven’t got Berbatov or any other Tov. Maybe if the Purse stayed fit we wouldn’t be having a go at Ade. I don’t think he is as bad as some want him to be. Spuds away was a great strike so too was Bar codes away. I think Theo would have been better around the box but AW wants him to play on the wing. Then again AW wants Eboooooe on the wing too.
May 10, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Phobia there’s nothing wrong with being gay, unless of course if affects his game!
May 10, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Geoff stop the Mancspur cunts now. They are winding you up man. Or let them on and have fun with them. Phobia, Ooh Ahh Ben Arfa
May 10, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Sorry about this guys but Ben Arfa is a nailed on cert if he loves it up the Arse.
May 10, 2008 at 3:31 pm
There’s no way Ben Arfa is a nancy boy, that’s a romour started up by Phobia and his wicked sense of humour!
El Tel, you’re right, it’s out of my system now just l