I really believe we will add to the squad, but it won’t be by much, Flamini is key to who he buys and I think if he goes, Barry will join. Robinho or Ben Arfa will come in on the wing and now Barca are out of Europe, Henry’s chances of an emotional return have rocketed, he will though look for an experienced centre back to bring in whilst the kids develop. I can’t see Senderos or Eboue going and I think we’ll hang on to Gilberto until Denilson develops.
Hleb will stay but Lehmann will seek pastures new.
The additions will come from the reserves, who I don’t know, but he really believes in his kids.
We can still win the league, but only if the other two collapse, 2 draws should do it but don’t get your hopes up.
I think he’ll make his signings the week after the Sunderland game and I think he’s been sounding them out already, well that’s what I would do, but with Arsene, who knows? …he does right!
We need a winger for sure, Rosicky can’t be relied upon, if Eduardo comes back early, he won’t sign a forward, with Bendtner and Ade showing signs of being the strikers we can rely on I can’t see him going for Benzema or Villa and that’s why I could see Henry coming home, a bit of experience to help them along.
We do need Adams back though, a defensive coach is what we’ve been lacking and if we can shut up shop at the back, and then we will win the quadruple next season…
Interesting that we had no chavs in the EPL team of the season, and more Arsenal players than from any other club, it shows that we’re not that far off, even if we don’t believe it ourselves sometimes.
There, now I can’t be more positive than that can I?
Good day yesterday Grovers and welcome aboard several new commenter’s, sorry it takes so long to approve sometimes, it’s the system, not us.
Let’s wish the cheating scousers luck over the cheating chavs tonight, they always have the refs on their side so maybe tonight as well eh?
I wouldn’t put any of our pups in, but I would have Villa or Benzema. As far as the current debate on English vs the rest, Arsenal had 4 players in the EPL team of the season, that’s more than anyone and none of them were English.
I think we should have more English in our team, like Barry and maybe Kirkland or Carson, with Micah Richards at the back.
I would like Joe Cole, but that won’t happen, and he’s a cheating chav cunt.
Anyway I remember Cashley, he was English, the best, but a disloyal toe rag, Clichy is miles better and got in the EPL team above Cashley as well.
There are arguments for both, but we have both so who cares?
i dont think wenger is gonna buy anyone this season. everyone feels sorry arsenal we are lke a joke team now. arsenal wel never win anything under wenger again. and how the fuck does ade no we are gonna win something next year? its bein 4 years since we last won anything but wenger keeps getinn away with it buy sayin next season we are gonna win the title.
Fucking English foreign cunts, sell them all, we will, and Arsene knows.
Well we won’t sell them all as we’ll give one away, know who I mean?
Kamel Ghilas – this name has just popped up as being Flamsters replacement
Spoof or true i wonder, never heard of him so it could be true…………….
off to do some research
I love this blog Pedro
Benzema is a fantastic player, anyone that can’t see that really doesn’t have a clue about football. He has a lot to learn undoubtedly but he is far more than just potential.
I don’t base any of my opinions on youtube its a pointless exercise. By all means go & have a look at a player after he’s signed to get some idea about them but nobody should use that to form an opinion.
I’ve seen Benzema play numerous times now & the bloke will be suited to premier league football, whether he can adapt to the country & everything else that goes with it, I can’t answer that, but from a pure footballing point of view he is a top quality player!!
Sorry bob, we won the FA Cup in May 2005 – not 4 years ago.
Kamel Ghilas? Where the hell did that come from Rico?
beg your parden, he had a trial with us in feb – i must be getting old!!
That’s what I said, he’s like a young Henry waiting to happen.
A .. I hear you .. next season he will be fit .. this must be his last chance season
ElTel .. thanks for backing Willie up..maybe we would have won the league this season had we had a similar player to him in our team .. and he wasnt a light weight either
he also scored super goals for his national side .. winning goals!!!!! I like that type of player .. not the Rosicky/RVP who are constantly injured .. or the Hlebs who never take a shot
Stu .. Ade is far from perfect .. and there are quite a few aspects I dont like about him .. first and foremost his lack of passing skills .. dont care about his personality .. most footies are greedy cunts .. see Flam
but point is he came on against Derby and improved the team .. scored 3 goals.. whilst Nik was by and large shiit .. Theo improved .. everybody looked better with him
give credit where credit is due
Pedro.. Hargreaves is NOT an Englsih player .. he is of Canadian descent and was formed in Canada/Munich .. unless you consider Bavaria an English mountain range
Carragher .. there used to be a joke in the league coming from Henry .. all you have to do is run at Carragher and he shits on himself
as a right back, he was bloody atrocious .. ok .. he is now a better centrebcak..but still
and its not every coach’s fault if England doesnt qualify .. right now at Chelsea, its the guys themselves that run the team .. they are big enough to do so..our youngsters wouldnt be able to .. surely most of the big guys you mentioned should do exactly that in their national side .. why does it always end in failure then??
The last time we had a four year gap was between doubles fear not, next year it will happen, even Ade said that.
pedro .. Wenger knew Henry from the days he was a coach at Monaco .. I know that Wenger wasnt coaching there any longer .. I know that much .. thx .. he was formed at Monaco under the watchful eyes of a certain professor .. thats why he jumped on him with his little biscuit once he felt the Turin experience was turning for the worse..
had he not known the player, he would not have bid for him after 6 months at Juve ..
BB if 2 horses have a foal, it’s still a horse not a pig because it was born in a sty and not a stable.
Hargreaves is still English as his parents are Brits.
Lewis was still British even though he went to Canada when he was 9.
Make you right about Carragher though, but with that name surely he’s Irish.
See my point, where does it end, is Owen English or Welsh, is Flamini French or Italian?
Don’t ask me about Ade!
bedner played well yesterday when ade came onto the field because he was playing as the second striker which is his best position IMO. did you see the ball for clichy to cross to ade that was a pure no 10 type of ball
My choice of the 2 would have to be Robinho and a CB… preferably Kompany.
Good to see Walcott has one player of the month this month… he has been brilliant for a couple of months now and i think the boy deserves it
I remember when Henry and Trezeguet ripped the Mancs at Old Trafford when Monaco knocked them out of Europe, I said we should sign them.
So whatever happened to Trez, weren’t we trying to sign him to keep Thierry last summer?
well… 20 year old eastern european playing in Bulgaria…. that’s the Wenger we know.
http://highbury1913.blogspot.com/2008/04/confirmed-arsenal-sign-dimitrov-for.html
Hargreaves is not English?
What is going on here BB… are we going on passport, decent, where they were born or where they were educated in Football?
So Trezeguet is not French because his started out at an Argentine club?
If Milan offer Arsenal 30 million for Adebayor, and Arsene replaced him with with another top quality striker which he’d buy for less, would any of you complain?
t-buzz -on nna, just posted on The Spoiler – Celebrity Sports Gossip 12:22hs
Wikpedia has details on the arsenal interest, not that that is very reliable
Trezeguet’s a foreigner?
Finest, I think Ade is fine, he’s only 24 (or so he says) I think next season, he’ll be sharper.
Robert Green anyone, I really rate him and he refuses to sign a new contract.
Yeah I don’t mind him staying at all, he’ll be key to us winning trophies next season if he stays, but what if Arsene was tempted by a huge bid and replaced him with Huntelaar who he’d get for 20,?He could spend 10 m on other areas of the team, plus anything out of the 25m kitty would give us a 35m budget for improvement for “top, top quality” if the agree to sign for us..
pedro.. believe me .. Trez is hardly French .. you never heard him speak .. when he first joined up, his French was piss poor .. Argentina is calling here
so yes .. I meant from a football education point of view..
geoff.. whats wrong with Ade?? he’s a proper brit .. born in Togo ..
just wonder what species would come out from a steamy session btw Eboue and Ade..especially when accompanied by certain movements in the hip region ..
Robert Green should go abroad if a top club here don’t sign him, he is quality and deserves to play for a title winning team in any country. I’d rather play for the top team in a league than a team like Wigan or Reading. Players who want to win trophies sometimes join top teams and refuse to leave for shitty teams in stronger leagues.
Don’t go there BB you’ll have nightmares. Finest if we have Green, Barry and Richards, that would be a third of the England team, that would shut the press up wouldn’t it?
goonerjay, that story came out yesterday it was all a hoax!!
It might be a hoax that actually happens in the end though, seen as we did have him on trial & considering how cheap he’d be!!
The trouble is, British youth are sometimes not adventurous enough. Young players from all over the world go to Italy and Spain and France to become top players, yet so many British players instead of looking to join a top team and become a winner look for a run of the mill footballing caeer. The money is blinding people to achievement. I’d rather be in a team that wins the German League than be in a mid table club in the Premier League.
Finest – if we get £20M plus offer for ade then we’d be mugs not to take it – £30M – AW could buy a whole new first and reserve teams with that!!
Scuba, at least 30m, the lad has outperformed Torres and Milan think he’s the bizzle. Torres’s fee plus % more for every goal more than Torres he has scored this season, that’s a fair deal.
Green, Barry and Richards excellent but come on the chances are what exactly – zero?!
Geoff.. dont need Green .. nor Barry .. now Richards .. I really like .. bring him on..
finestcuts .. its a question of money … too much of it around here
Finest – on that reckoning you’re not far off
Well if Adebayor stays he’s gonna win us key games, thats for sure, we need someone of top quality to help him out though, someone who can also score 30 and isn’t scrocked for half the season.
Yeah i noticed that GMR after i had posted the comment when i saw all the other bloggs saying it was bollox… i missed all the news yesterday, i’ve been on a training course for the last 2 days that i find more boring tha watching Chelsea play.
I hope the rumours of us in a head to head to sign Robinho are true though… our Champions League place will give us the edge over Spurs for a player of Robinho’s stature and i think he would be the ideal signing for us
Adebayor is a good addition to any team, and Wenger would not sell him for a discount thats for sure, he loves Adebayor to bits.
Well that 30M would pay for Barry & Richards although not much change -
Well it would give us 55mil to spend and Wenger can buy a whole team for that so….
What happened to the albino’s son at ManCity; young Casper, where did he go…. would he be a good prospect?
He’s hekping to keep Norwich up, he needs the experience really. He’s Championship/Premiership standard….better suited to a team fighting relegation than us.
Maybe if Eriksson goes, Richards will leave.
Maybe if Riijkarrd goes (how can he even THINK of playing 4-3-3 with Roladinho out?), Thuram and others will leave.
So we’ll have cover at CB.
Maybe if Flamini goes (why didn’t he loan Diarra?), then I heard he’ll bring in Kamel Ghilas from VITORIA.
Maybe we’ll get Robinho or Ribery (too bad Reyes couldn’t deal with it), because Vela will be where Walcott is on the other side of the pitch.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
I think thats what Shin wants to do, shatter the nucleus of the team and make a “super team”. If they do better than Erikson next year they’ll be bigging Shin up….
Lets wait and see.
It’s maddness really; erikson has got a good bunch of players that have done okay for their first season and now shin ain’t happy so it’ll fall apart – fucking muppet!! The players seem to be loyal to erikson as well – that can only be good if we go hunting…
We said here on Le Grove that Diarra should go out on loan, or rot in the reserves. I’m afraid you-know-who had a better idea, we said get Flamini to sign before you sell Diarra, but he didn’t, that’s not bad football, that’s bad business, proving that you-know-who actually doesn’t know.
Even if we got all that money, he wouldn’t spend it anyway.
Ribery is a Munich player and I think Thuram’s too old now.
well i hope i wake up in the morning to see the headlines:
“Flamini signs on the dotted line”
catch you all tomorrow lads!
Sleep well Evo, but don’t hold your breath.
I mean on the Flamini deal, if you hold your breath in bed you won’t wake up to see if he signed.
Flamini’s off to Milan, Berlusconi will sort his taxes out for him. Good luck Flamini, we’ll beat you when we’re next at the San Siro.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/04/30/milan-offer-mega-bucks-for-arsenal-star-mathieu-flamini-89520-20400032/
BB
i agree , ronald mac donald could score goals in front of our arsenal midfield ..
even mr bean !
but the difference with ade V bends is that bends is still 5 years younger than ade .
and will alway be 5 years younger .. Long term you have to weigh up who will stay .
we dont need 2 plan B’s … And if TH14 does come back , i think last night the poor blighter didnt have enough time to adapt coming on for 30 minutes ..
Least franky knows he’s a game winner still , an impact sub !
Confidence has let us down this season … Certain players like bert and senderos never got enough time on the pitch .. even walcott was stunted by limited time on the pitch .. We are closer than last year ill give arsenal that , but ade needs some serious refinements before ill call him class ..
can these guys get with the program for next season ???
its another wait and see scenario .
I gotta say i dont feel comfortable relying on that strategy ..
it hasnt faired us well in the past 3 / 4 years …
but if you guys want to believe wenger again .. just know your dealing with the devil.
Id just prefer 4 or 5 new players .. Who are ready now and proven ..
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3498457,00.html
We’ve got Cesc Fabregas, We’ve got Cesc Fabreagas
If we get Barry and Richards that would be a good move Robert green would be my choice though because Richards and Barry are not better than what we have at the moment but Green is. Richards could be better but it’s the potential thing again. Barry is a good player but not a superstar is he. Green would have kept us in the title if he was with us now. On paper we have a great defence. Sagna, Toure, Gallas and Clichy. We moan about this but they are class players. Our keeper isn’t good at all. I keep reading guys saying he hasn’t made any mistakes. Well sorry but after spending 9 seasons just behind Seamans goal I can tell you he isn’t good enough for us. He commands fuck all in HIS area. He goes walk about. (Mancs Home) and from dead ball situations he is awful. When did he ever save a 1on 1? Goalkeeper a World class CM scrapper and a winger is what we need.
Goalkeeper in Anyone from Gomes, Cudicini, Green, Kirkland or Buffon. CB Alex, CM Essien, Winger, Robinho, Robben,Huntellar and play RVP wide.
Gomes
Sagna, Alex, Gallas, Clichy
Fabregas, RVP,Essien,Robinho
Huntellar, Ade
Subs, Theo, Vela, Toure, Fabianski, Sicky,Dennilson.
Goonerjay that was very funny! El Tel I agree but I still think Barry is class. If Milan are offering that kind of money to Flamini, they must be fucking mad, he’s not worth it.
Think about it, £60,000 a week, tax free, that’s £100,000 a week in real money, fuck, that more than some people earn a year.
ethan .. look .. we will always be divided over Nik .. fact is that right now he isnt good enough to play upfront in a title winning exercise .. will he make the grade at a later stage?? who knows??
but one cannot deny that Ade scored 30 goals .. even I have to admit this and on our current form, he has the edge over Nik
Nik aint no Benzema, Ben Arfa either .. ie no super super talent
and he doesnt fit our style .. nor does Ade btw.. but we all want RVP to succeed .. fact is .. he hant ptoven himself in 4 years .. its becoming a difficult call now
TH14 would be a good transition .. dont need Eto’o .. surely not after this season .. he has been awful and his touch is as poor is Ade
not much else around then .. that is realistic..I have a feeling that huntelaar would be 2 expensive for us..Benzema too..Villa ..yes, but .. with a horde of clubs chasing him, I cant see his price going down..nad Berba is a Spuds sulk who will be milked by his club
TH14, Ben Arfa, a centre back and a strong midfileder for Flam .. and we are set .. plus a keeper if we can afford .. fukking 4/5 players .. it aint the end of the world
AW Team 2008
Almunia
Sagna, Toure, Senderos, Clichy
Cesc, Diaby, Theo, Hleb
Ade, RVP
Bendtner, Dennilson, Fabianski, Djoroue, Vela, Merida
Oh and Eboue
if some one bids 30 mill for ade.. what will wenger do..
that is the question my friends.
That won’t happen. It’s his 4th favourite behind Eboue, Senderos and Cesc.
It frankly amazes me that anyone can say Bendtner played shit against Dervy county on Monday. He was the best player on the pitch, especially in the second half when was deployed deeper to create and be the playmaker alongside Cesc et al.
As Wenger said, Adebayor came on when all the hard work was done by the team in the first half and he managed to convert a few piss easy chances by playing on the shoulder for the whole half. The situation was made for him as a player, and with his physical gifts against a crap defence it was child’s play.
However long term I would take Bendtner over Ade without question. He has far more intelligence in his game and can actually mesh with a fellow striker.
Problem with Ade is that his weaknesses as a player are supposed to be Arsenal’s strengths as a team and his strengths are Arsenal’s weaknesses.
That tells me is not designed to be a permanent fixture in this team, but rather a emergency plan B. His permanent inclusion in the team will slowly corrode our technical level and disrupt the rythm of our more technical players.
Geoff I would love to see Barry in our midfield. He is honest hardworking and can pass and shoot, not bad in the air either. I just don,t think AW will go for him. He isn’t a better footballer than Flamini or Diaby/Dennilson but Barry will take us back to how Prem football is played and he will be an asset.
El tel – whilst I agree with you re Almunia not being good enough I think it’s harsh to blame him for not winning the title……too many drawn games and chances not taken are to blame… we haven’t lost a game which was his fault
why is every one putting cesc at RW…that is eboue’s spot!!!!
It amazes me how anyone who has watched Nik this year can say he doesn’t fit in with Arsenals style?
Fast, skilful… good in the air! He has a great touch and he can pass the ball with the best of them.
He is much more accomplished than Ade was when he arrived at Arsenal and at 19, he will get much better.
Aaaaaargh!
Why the hatred for Ade. He certainly isn’t shit. He hardly has a game where the opponents defence doesn’t get worked over. I don’t buy that I could score for this team bollocks either. If you stand still you get marked. Ade isn’t the best in the world but he is very difficult to play against. TH14 loves him and most Opponents fear him more than anyone. I would much rather Ade than Rooney and co. Ade can play up front on his own better than anyone else. Come on Ade take over that Penalty taking Manc cunt in the next 2 games and quieten your haters. We would have been fucked without his goals this year. Big up Bendtner 2 he isn’t ready yet but in flashes he looked like he can become a much stronger forward. Well done to Theo, its taken an age but things are looking so much better since you have knocked on AW door.
Pedro – you’re flogging a dead horse mate – come on ade has scored 30 goals this year so is a superstar (?)…… still I’d go for Nik too
El Tel – it’s not a case of hating ade just don’t rate him – but then isn’t this what the blog is about – sharing opinions regardless of if we agree or not….. if we both thought he was great it would be boring, no?
I don’t think Pedro is anti Ade just sticking up for Bendtner.
Yeah, I give up…
This all started because I said Nikki B would score goals for Lyon…
Anyway… Flamini replacements?
Song… JD… or someone new?
How about Gattuso as a stop gap for a year or two?
Its difficult to think of names who play in that role?
* Geoff is correct in what he is saying, I like Ade and I like Nik.
Pedro, problem with Nik B is that most times he can be so feeble with the ball and I dont think he’s that fast or faster than Ade, though better ball control. A guy with his stature should be more commanding on the pitch like Drogba(without the diving) or anelka.
I agree we should give him another season to show what he’s made of
I have another blog site for that Grovers, it’s called the ‘Agree with Geoff’ site with the mantra ‘Geoff knows’
It’s really fun, go look!
You should see the team we all agreed on! Kaka is in it.
t-buzz – better ball control is much much better than pace; NikB could grow into the role given more opportunities…..
i read a post on another blog…
man u didn’t concede to barcelona in 180 min.. we conceded 2 to derby in 90 min…
gets u thinking
Yeah t-buzz, he’s not perfect… but he has all the ingredients needed to become a great player.
Drogba was playing in the French 3rd Division at 19.
If we bought Villa, Nik or Theo would have to go… even then you’d have striker pile up because of Eddie, RvP and Ade.
I think we need a winger and a centre back first and foremost. A striker would be a real luxury buy because we have enough goals when we get our players back.
I think Arsena will buy that Floretina Serbian palyer i dont remeber his name and i think Arsen alredy have a replacement for Heleb if he gose and we need a good CB make Fabrigas Captain naxt term I hope finger crosed
Netx season is ours not only in England in world too
gooner forever
Flamini replacement – Gago from Madrid
Thats where we need to concentrate on….defence is too leaky!!
Spot on about Bendtner Pedro. Even if he’s an arrogant cunt it don’t matter. Theres no one more arrogant than the fat Rooney or the Winker. Almunia is our goalkeeper and although its not his fault we didn’t win the league if we had a better keeper we would have done. Birmingham away, did he call Clichy for the ball that caused the Pen, i was in a pub and when they got the free kick i said it would be a goal. He can’t set up a wall. Spuds away long range free kick, Pool away, long range free kick. Birmingham away long range free kick. Mancs home he decided to play right wing when they tapped the ball into open goal. The first goal in the same game deflected off Gallas and went straight through him. Boro home fucking nowhere. CL final 2 through the legs. Theres so much more but my memory isn’t clear. When has this guy ever bollocked HIS defenders? Mad Jens was going crazy the last match he played for us and by the way it was a clean sheet too. Can’t remember the last one.
my team for next year – not squad, best 11….
Almunia – we wont buy a keeper
Bac, Kolo/gallas, new ch, clichy
theo, cesc, new cm, vela
villa & ade
subs and rotation/rest players
Rosicky, RVP, Barazite, Eboue (yes eboue) gallas/kolo, fabianski, sunu/and who was young guy we signed in jan?? nordveit
How many times this season have we had striker injury problems, and last season, we need 5 strikers, then two can always be used out wide.
I like Eduardo, but there’s no guarantee he’ll ever be the same. If top talent becomes available we should snap it up.
If Ade has another good season, he’ll want to go, so will Bendtner, we should plan for today, not tomorrow, that why we’re in the shit with Flamini and Hleb, getting rid of Diarra was a howler.
Guys I am sorry you think I am calling you Ade haters. It was a generalisation from all the Gooners i speak too. They just don’t rate him. I dont like our keeper as you probably have guessed. I am not sayin gyou are wrong and i love the opinions too. Thats why i always come on here. Geoff Knows.
Yeah that is true Geoff… maybe if we bought a striker at his peak… he wouldn’t need to leave?
If Ade starts agitating for a move, i’d be surprised… he has been saying a lot of nice things in the press and suspect he is aware of the flak Wenger took to make him a good player.
I was called a cunt by my uncle this weekend for saying sack AW. My uncle loves AFC as much as any other Gooner. AW has made too many mistakes. This is a good side. Better than the CL finalists but AW made too many cock ups. The problem is what will we do when he goes. Can we go on or will we destruct. Thats the scary thought.
I dont know why we even need to knock our own players. leave bentner and Ade alone. they are both good young players that are improving and as supporters we should support them. they have both scored important goals this season and wenger puts them in the team because he believes they are good enough so there is little point in constantly criticising them.
have to say, with Blatter getting more and more insistent by the day that he will impose an English player quota I think Arsenal do need to start thinking about buying English now. we dont want to wait for the rule to come in and have to buy 3 or 4 English players in one summer, when their prices would be sky high. Better to do the business now if possible.
Barry would be a good choice to replace Flam. Micah Richards is a gooner but I dont think Shin would accept even a very high bid for him and he signed a new contract there. Ditto for Lescott, dont see Everton letting him go. Downing might be attainable but I dont really rate him. Not sure how good Wheater is but he is rated as better than Woodgate. There’s Mark Noble, who started out with us and I think he is quite a hard (dirty) player at times and has a decent shot on him. Dean Ashton is a good player but always injured. Gabby Agbonlahor is a superb player but will Villa ever let him go and being a local lad, wil he want to leave?
SWP from Chelsea is another player I really like and who wants away. Do liverpool still want Crouch? If not worth a punt. However, Jimmy Bullard would be top of my shopping list though. what a player he is and with Fulham going down he is easily attainable for not a lot. Thats 11 English outfield players who I think are buyable if wenger wanted them. Its a question of funds and I think even one of these players would clear out our kitty.
I dont really see how Arsene buying all these English players ‘improves the English game’ but ours is not to question why – Septic Bladder is a cunt and he sets the rules.
Scorers Team Goals Goal/shots
================================
Ronaldo Man Utd 28 23%
Adebayor Arsenal 24 24%
Torres Liverpool 22 25%
Santa Cruz Blackburn 17 24%
This is for those who say that if we had Torres in our side he would have scored 50 goals.
Adebayor has a better goals to shots ratio.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_2705370,00.html
sometimes el tel i look at what our players do at international level and when the leave,
does the wenger touch make these players better when he has them but when they leave…..
Point taken re Almunia’s laspes but if we had a taken our chances we’d have won most games by a distance and as someone else said 2 goals scored by derby shows it’s been more a defence issue rather than goalkeeper issue….. even King Seaman made a few errors during the season; as did Jens…..which was why Almunia got his chance. had we taken the chances at OT then the freekick would have neither here nor there – same for Birmingham game …. we can kick this one around all day long!!
mean lean
ade 64 offsides to torres 27 offsides, that is quite a difference
It doesn’t take into account shots on target, because the percentages would be far higher for all of them.
El Tel – you mean you don’t like Almunia; you’re kidding me!!
Of course it is and it is something he needs to sort out. But that is not the point. The point is alot of people are saying that he cannot finish and he is a shit striker which I find madness.
shit striker; no – just not good enough for AFC
MeanLean – you’d have thought at his age he’d have figured out the offside rule, no?
Ade has scored 30/season what more do U want come on !
let AW sell the followings:
sanderos——————–6m
djourou———————-5m
Hoyte———————– 3m
randall———————–2m
gilberto———————-5m
diaby————————6m
bendtner———————6m
TOTAL——————–: 33m
this 33, plus the 25m reportedly available and 5m received for diara 2m from aliadiere will be 65m
we can use this money to buy:
benzema———————20m
robinho———————-20m
lucio————————-10m
M. richards——————-15m
Total ————————65m
good business right there guys.
next, promote barazite, lansbury, & wilshere and bring back vela. we will win two trophies.
and why we all gooners should have our on live chating web !
I guess people want another Thierry!
Ade needs to improve his first touch, he lay off bullet passes and his holding the line ability.
Bar that, he is not far off. Who else has a better striker at his age?
Tomik what are u thinkin 7 palyers out 4 palyers in after that all problem about scoad depth that AFC dont have
Pedro – first touch and passing ability should be basic skills not something he still needs to learn!!!
So if he had a better first touch and stayed onside more… but only scored 14 goals, would you be happier?
His job is to score goals… no one will ever be as good as Thierry and Bergkamp were. Their team play and touch was unbelievable.
Ade will get better, Drogba was a donkey for a few years.
Morning Campers……… its been a while, so long in fact that I dare say not many of you will remember me, but that’s just a cross I will have to bare !!!!!
Anyway, just to pump my 2 pence worth into the Henry debate…… just fucking sign him. Any player that admits he was wrong and wants to come back and sweep the floors if that is all that is available is welcome in my book !!!!!!
stands to reason if he had a better first touch, ball control and stayed onside he’d score a lot more than 14 goals; and he’d have scored alot more than his 30 this year.
if he had that and only scored 14 goals then he’d be doing fine – he obviously wouldn’t have all the chances that we create to only score 14 goals…..
I don’t ever consider ade to be anywhere near DB10 & TH14 – I for one have never made any comparison
How will ade get better? Don’t you agree that what he’s lacking are basic skills?
Bud – are you suggesting Th14 plays sweeper next year; interesting thought but I don’t see it myself
Scuba, I am not saying that you are comparing him…
No one rated Ade at the start of the year then goes out and scores 30 odd goals this year and it is still not good enough?
Why? Because we expect our strikers to have the same ability as Thierry/Bergkamp… we don’t do traditional lumbering centre forwards at Arsenal… but in reality, he is exactly what we needed. Someone to be there for the tap ins, someone to head the ball in from a set piece and someone to scare the shit out of the oppositions defence.
If Ade had scored 35 goals, people would still be saying the same things about him because he doesn’t fit into the Arsenal fans ideal.
You speak to any other fans and they all rate Ade… even last year I had Chavs and Mancs telling me how good they thought Ade was!
Ade can improve the same way Drogba did… the same way he improved from last year… experience and hard work.
tomik, why sell Randall? Have you seen what he can do? He plays like Ray Palour, no way we’re gonna sell him!
Welcome back Bud….I know youre joking cos I dont see TH14 coming back to the Emirates.
Pedro, you said…
“Ade will get better, Drogba was a donkey for a few years.”
I agree, just unfortunate that even if Ade learns the offside and scores 34 goals next season, people will still slag him off. C’est La vi, such is life!!
geoff i said that 2 days ago !
buy a striker who is already established and who wants to play for us .. VILLA!
pretty hard for him to then say he wants to move on then…!
And thats my LONG TERM FEAR with ade !
you see his attitude after scoring a goal ! His ego will always be a worry ..
And when these big clubs come calling like (hleb and flamini )ade will just leave !
leaving us in another NEVER ENDING transitional period !
Villa has came out and said he wants to play for us , thats pretty settling to me !
Sell all the trash and get players that are ready for next season !!
pedro i agree with you on nikb . He shows far more promise .. Yet i agree with BB
no one is to arsenals standard currently ! RVP included ..
WE NEED A CULTURED SEASONED STRIKER !
any other talk is just hopeful /wishful thinking ..
yes pedro ade can improve HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE ?
my guess is 2 seasons !
Theo will fill the bill faster than ade or dudu even RVP if he remains fit for long enough ..
And as for Flam…
He doesn’t owe Wenger anything.
Arsene played him out of his position most of 2006 and used him as a squad player in 2007.
He’s playing better this season because he knew he was out of contract and wanted to get a better contract–and arouse offers from the other big clubs–can’t fault any player for that at all, has to make a living like you and I.
So he’s got we he wanted by working very, very hard and I wish him the best where ever he is playing next season.
If we pried him from Marsaille then Milan can pry him from us, good riddance.
Pedro –
I hear what you say and maybe I do have a fans ideal image in my head – however, my criticism of him has been his basic ability – the first touch, passing etc etc – I said it last year and apart from him scoring the goals I haven’t seen any real improvement in those areas; if anything they’ve been highlighted even more so because he has played a lot more games.
I think that Eddie, RvP or even NikkB could have given us that return and more this year becasue they are all technically better players than Ade. If Ade hadn’t scored the goals this year I’d bet that everyone would be saying exactly I what I think; it would be get rid of him etc, etc, I doubt we’d be hearing oh don’t worry he’ll improve next year….
For me it just ain’t going to happen and as we said yesterday let’s wait and see what happens next year.
I hope you’re right about him because I doubt that AW will go out and buy any more forwards!!
Goons_with_Guns
are you a gooner ?
He’s playing better this season because he knew he was out of contract and wanted to get a better contract–and arouse offers from the other big clubs–can’t fault any player for that at all, has to make a living like you and I.
I cant believe you said that?
your saying he only tried hard this season to feather his own nest?
well thats loyalty for you ..
fuck if your happy with that … i seriously feel for you
SG:
Put it to you another way: If Ade hadn’t scored his goals, went to ANC, do you think we would have had a fighting chance at the title this year, ffs?
And if so, who WOULD have scored those goals, hmm?
I’m with ML and Pedro on this one–even if he does need much improvement.
lol
ScubaGooner
I agree 100%
i dont hate ade for fun … I dislike what he brings to us as a striker !
i mean come on we have all been used to a class striker like TH14 – DB10
if you think he will do after having them as a bench mark ..
ade has not learned a cracker this season .. in fact his off sides have got worse !
his passing is non existent , and his 1st touch is dreadful .. how can anyone improve those fundamental skills without long term hard work !!.. you either have them or you dont currently .. it will take 2 years
of continual persistence .. by that stage he will want to earn more than 50- 60 k a year
do you think he is good enough to front arsenal ? he is a rouge lone wolf who is too greedy to pass to any partner on the pitch also ! Until those things change
my opinion wont change ..
I don’t want you to think that I am an Ade sympathiser… far from it! He isn’t world class yet, but he is working towards it.
He has a massive ego, but what athlete doesn’t?
As long as he is sticking the ball in the net and working hard, I am happy.
How shite was Eto’o last night? At least when Ade is playing poorly he is still putting himself about like a madman.
The proof is in next season, if he can do it 2 years on the trot, we are onto a winner.
You are right about the other 3… they could all be brilliant next year given the chance.
Adebayor has indeed scored 30 goals this season, but I’d be absolutely shocked if he ever got over 25 again in a season, and he won’t play every game next season, even if VP was to continue with his injury problems. I’d like to see him stay at the club, as he’s a very good impact sub and offers something different away from him in the tough battles, but he won’t be first choice for another full season at arsenal, and with the apparent lack of intelligence and way he seems to believe his own hype I think he could cause problems if he wasn’t selected all the time. If there is a big offer in the summer I think Arsene could well bit Milan or whoever’s hand off.
It’s like when Utd sold Van Nistelrooy. He was and still is a very good player in his own right, and scored alot of goals, but didn’t fit the style of play that Ferguson wanted to create, and subsequently although he would score goals, the team would score less goals overall than if a less prolific forward was playing who was able to fit in with the style of play. Exactly the same thing with Adebayor, though Arsene was forced to keep him in all this season due to injuries, and rawness of Theo and Bendtner, and Eduardo at the start
people dont seem to get it ? ade scored 30 goals because he is a greedy cunt who doesnt pass off ! cant you see it in all his turned over possession ?
the buck stops with him ! our typical play involves ade receiving the ball , either being offside – losing possession or falling over and standing up looking around like someone stole his fucking dummy ! WHO ELSE HAS A CHANCE TO SCORE ?
he dont pass to any other cunt ! he has made 3 fucking assists ALL SEASON !!
FUCK ME !!! all that time on the pitch .. over 30 + games …
He cant even score outside the 6 yard box !!!
YES HE’S FUCKING CLASS !
We need to be more ruthless with players. If they aren’t good enough now, get rid. We have too many potential players who we hope would get there eventually. Then when they get to the level, leave.
If Barca can put Ronaldinho on the table, after bringing so much to the club, why can’t we sell someone who had one good season, for a more proven player.
Arsene treats his players like plants until he gets a flower or fruit from them, but when they bear they feel they don’t owe Arsenal anything.
If Adebayor’s ego gets the better of him, I wish him no success in the future. Because he is where he is, only because of Arsenal.
I’m afraid Ade will never be world class. His lack of footballing intelligence will put pay to that ambition, and it’s something you can’t teach, vision, weight of passes, picking the right pass, making the right runs etc. Truly world class players have it from an early age, Rooney exhibited ten times the footballing intelligence of Adebayor at 16, Bendtner does at 19.
He can dance though. Robin can’t he gets a thigh strain.
Did I see Bud on here?
Bendtner, Eboue, Fabianski, Song, Denilson, Traore, Diaby, Hoyte, ….. they should play in FA and Carling cups.
Stop playing boys in the league.
Trinadad are you forgetting Henry, Vieira, Pires, Edu, Petit, Overmars?! How on earth can you say we need to be more ruthless using Ronaldinho as an example, we’ve always done that
I can’t believe two strikers can split the ranks like Ade and Nikki B do, it’s incredible, 30 plus goals and half of you hate him.
I don’t, but I’m not saying you’re all wrong, so many of you, you can’t be.
I think we all agree on getting a Villa or a Benzema in though don’t we?
Hey Trinidad Gooner, been on holiday?long time.
Yeah, Ronnie is too old to be a good example, but what do we do with young players who arent good enough? we can’t have a huge basket of potential, Arsene would sell better players to make room.
Overmars was a mistake though, he had good years left in him.
I guarantee you that Ade will be our first choice striker for as long as he is at the club.
He is Arsene’s favourite, like it or not… that is how it is.
Does he need to become world class? Just keep banging them in I say… We have enough players who can thread a ball through the eye of the needle… Ade is our traditional centre forward there to kill off the game (when he is not heading it over from two yards)!
I’d be interested to know how many assists Eto’o gets, or David Villa.
I don’t agree on getting a Villa and Benzeama. If we had unlimited money, and an unlimited squad size then yeah, get both of them, Messi, Ronaldo, Ferdinand, Buffon etc etc etc
In reality if we have to lose any of our current squad, or use up any of our transfer funds on them then no, a forward is not what we need.
If someone was to leave, then yeah they’d be good, both would fit in well eventually at Arsenal
Sorry Gooner-geezer, it took a while but you’re on now, Pedro hasn’t been paying attention! try again, you’ll get straight on, Ethan you were in there too, I think wordpress is doing something strange.
GwG – we’ll never know because he didn’t and as it happens we haven’t won the title but how do we know what might have happened had he gone and maybe we had to rely on Theo, NiKkB, maybe Eddie didn’t get injured – who the fuck knows.
Ethan – you and me alone mate!!
Pedro – I know you’re not his greatest fan but I think you hit the nail on the head – it seems most are happy so long as he’s scoring….. I can cope with his ego and yes he does work hard – mostly though because of his lack of ability and …. no no I’m going off on one again
Eto’o was poor last night but barca haven’t been there at all this year
I’m curious to see where Eboue plays next season.
Right wing again?
Arsene would not admit that it was a mistake trying to convert him to midfield.
The best place for him is the bench. Keep him as cover for RM (if we’re desperate) and RB
I guarantee you Pedro he won’t be, and he certainly isn’t Arsene’s favourite. VP is Arsene’s number one, and Ade was our plan B at the start of this season, and will prove to be again by Xmas at the latest as Bendtner, Theo, Eduardo, Vela show how much better they fit into Arsenal’s style of play. Ade’s 30 goals were a fluke, and even Arsene didn’t expect him to score half that, as he’s said. He’s done better than anyone thought he would, but isn’t that good
nikb has scored 8 goals this season !
and considering he has probably had only 1/4th of the time on the pitch ade has doesn’t that tell you something ??
hopefully Eboue will be playing for a different club next season Trinidad
I think he is Wenger’s favourite, him and Eboue, Cesc and Senderos, Ade’s always first on the team sheet.
Also don’t forget for years the fans were saying Wenger had no plan ‘B’ now he does people don’t like it.
Nah, Eboue can add a little to our carling cup team, we won’t get that much for him anyway
I think Arsene’s favourites are Cesc and RVP.
Adebayor becomes his 2nd favourite when RVP is injured.
Okay so long as its only the CC though
I’m off now so Ethan I’ll leave you to fly the flag
defenders
Lescott or Weater (boro i think?)
Midfilder
Diarra- Real madrid not using him properly
no strikers- we have enough
Well said Geoff… Ade was Arsene’s favourite when he was shite, now he is good you think he is going to drop him? No way… there is more chance of him selling Eboue than dropping Ade!
If anything, RvP is not his favourite, ever since he got himself sent off at Southampton… It took RvP ages to break through as well.
I watch Madrid most weekends and Gago isn’t there yet. A better bet is to try and take Sergio Ramos and move Toure to DM.
I don’t think he’s going anywhere though.
Madrid’s best player who’s available is Robinho
Noone is complaining about having a plan B, it’s the fact that due to injuries the plan B became our only plan this season. Arsene expected VP and Ade to start the season, to ease Bendtner in slowly alongside VP. Due to VP being injured that couldn’t happen
Read on:
“The reports about Milan are b******t,” Courbis told setantasports.com.
“I was not in Milan, and what makes me laugh is that a friend that read the story in the Italian press called me to complain I did not call him to have a drink there!
“Milan’s president’s priority is (Andriy) Shevchenko and they are not allowed to have two extra-community players so the reports make me laugh.”
Courbis claims he will sit down and discuss Adebayor’s future with Arsenal in the summer.
He added: “Obviously, it is logical that Emmanuel is demanded.
“I have to meet his club when the season ends to speak about his future.
“We have not received concrete offers.
“Today he is happy at Arsenal, he showed it on Monday (scoring a hat-trick against Derby in front of Setanta Sports’ cameras).
“But you know football, everything goes very quickly, but we will not talk before the season ends, as Arsenal are focused on trying to finish second.”
Ade has scored a lot of goals you guys, had he have had the support of another striker who scored the same amount of goals, this debate would not be taking place, because we would have won the league – Ade is not perfect, but those around him have failed us – GET OFF HIS BACK –
If Bendtner, Hleb, yes even Cesc, Eboue, Flamster and Theo – AND NIK taken their chances we would all be happy dancing with a trophy – they didnt, dont blame it all on one man, the one man who has to stay, can only get better – BUT he needs quality alongside him, I think it may be Theo, yes he is a pup at the moment, but the change in him from the beginning of the season is incredible. He now has an attitude, he doesn’t give up, never stops running, and the ball in not out UNTIL it has crossed the line – yes he needs to compose himself more, yes he needs to believe in himself more, but his final ball is so much better – no longer does he hoof and hope, he looks up and passes, not always perfect i know, but nor am i…..
If Ade continues to get 20+ goals, and a.n. other can get 20+ we re laughing up front…
Lets now sort the defence, not Lescott, not Richards – they are not good enough. with 10 we put 4 against toffess – lescott
Richards – he is another that is all hype
Sit back boss – look at the teams we could not score against, if the reason we failed to score was about quality defending then look at the defence and buy one – if it was about another glaring miss, leave well alone.
What about Curtis Davis….. the man Titi said was awesome…….
The point is when Ade plays the striker alongside him doesn’t get anything like as many chances so won’t ever be able to score the same amount of goals
We have to sit down in the summer and discuss his future, cheeking cunt, he’s got a fucking contract. This is the problem with Wenger, since he let Anelka go anyone that wants to go, just fucks off.
Overmars, Petit, Viera, Henry, Campbell, Hleb? even Cesc went for a chat, what happened to a contract’s a fucking contract Arsene???
Pedro.. agreed on two counts .. Monsieur Wenger loves his African giraffe .. aand he must be very happy with his scoring record .. especially with regards to our other options .. and Robinho is by far the best that might come out of Real ..
Ramos is class too but inaccessible ..
Eboue, Fabregas and Ade are definitely Arsene’s favourites, they’re his projects, they would not be where they are without Wenger.
Rico,Curtis Davies is at Villa on loan. He’s currently injured and out for 6months …an effect of playing against arsenal in a 1-1 draw
Ethan seems to have a real anger management issue. Do we really want someone who claims to be an Arsenal fan, slagging off our playerslike this. Particularly one that helped the team get as far as we did this season. Without Ade we would have struggled. And if anyone can score 30 goals as the main Arsenal striker, how does this leave Thierry? Just lucky I guess based on Ethan’s logic
No you didn’t Geoff !
Are you not allowed out any more?