Henry? never say never, says Wenger, Flamini stays and big Tone wants to come home.

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The boss came out after Henry said he would only come back to Arsenal, he said ‘never say never’ before you all laugh, think about it.

He could be the signing we need, a proven finisher, he won’t be captain, he’ll be very humble, and he won’t cost a fortune, he could be the 2 year gap striker that we desperately need until Theo, Nick and Ade grow up.

Flamini has been offered a new and improved contract and Wenger says he’ll stay, and I believe him.

Big Tone says he wants to come back, he is just what the defence needs, get him boss, he’ll be perfect.

Hleb I’m not sure about but if I was a gambler, I’d say he’ll stay, I’d put money on it, if he wants to go though, we’ll get a fee, so it won’t be all bad.

It seems that Gilberto will go but we won’t have any problems replacing him, there are plenty about, I just want to see us replacing big Phil with a world class big nasty centre back.

I think in this next 2 weeks, the rumour mill will go bananas but should also see how the future pans out, if we don’t bring TH14 back we should go for David Villa.

Let’s hope they (scum) draw today and we win our last three and get something out of this season, I noticed some pictures in the comments section yesterday Grovers, very creative, very colourful.

197 Responses to “Henry? never say never, says Wenger, Flamini stays and big Tone wants to come home.”

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  1. Geoff

    Clichey says you have to respect his decision if he wants to leave, thanks Gael, never mind about the fans eh!

  2. Big Raddy

    Morning chaps. Just back from another holiday, which included the Reading game. Atmosphere left much to be desired, but I do sit in the ‘prawn section’ !

    Interesting post. Can we really challenge next season without Hleb/Flam.? We have seen how long it takes some players to bed into the team (Sagna excepted). If these boys leave, I fear for another potless season

  3. Sniff

    If Hleb leaves the fee won’t be very high.

    If he does a ‘Webster’ it could be considerably less. Hearts received nothing near the level of compensation they believed was fair.

  4. Pedro

    So Hleb is reportedly leaving…

    Spurs have officially signed Modric for £20million, that is 80% of our summer budget on 1 player.

    This is going to be a shite summer if we don’t watch it.

    It’s great having stability in the boardroom, but stability in the team would be better? If we lose Flam and Hleb, we basically start again?

    How come Spurs continuously invest, season after season… but we can’t? We couldn’t compete with them financially at Highbury… and now, at the Emirates.

    What a load of bollocks.

  5. col

    This team so feckin needs big T back, i hate ‘wat ifs’, but feckin hell if the defence was more marshalled this season we all be sitting back in the caribbean drinking mojito’s (im a fiend 4 mojito’s – bonus points if you know which film).

  6. goonerjay

    Get the donkey back… Big Tone will inject some bollocks into our back 4.

    Spurs sign Modric… nice… why is it a smaller club with smaller income can spend all this money on transfers yet one of the biggest clubs in the country has brought anyone of note in years?!

    take a look at this guys… made me chuckle

    Link

  7. Pedro

    I was hoping that was a joke…

    I think even at 12 there are certain prerequisites being an Arsenal fan… I think he is on TV enough!

  8. Finestcuts

    Can we really get Henry on the cheap? Would he take a pay cut to come back?

    Flamini has already pushed Arsenal to offer their very best, he’s saying a little bit more, but Wenger isn’t budging.

    Neither player has done enough to cool speculation.

    What about the money?

    If Hleb and Flamini stay they will be useful but they’re not as world class as they think.

    I expect both Hleb and Flamini to go, if they don’t it’ll be a pleasant surprise,

    Regardless of whether they go, we’ll patch things up.

    I listened to Kevin Keegan’s interview about getting Henry and he has the right idea, he’s not looking for squad players, he already has plenty of those, he’s looking for players who will fit into his first 11 and do a good job. Wenger must be thinking along the same lines.

    Spuds have been ripped off again, they paid more for Modric than we paid for Eduardo, Dinamo Zagreb are making fortunes for a club their size.

  9. Stupid

    modric is pure class, genius little player.

    i can’t believe he would sign for spuds, wenger has tracked him for a while… if hleb has signed for inter, luka would be the ideal replacment.

    i have a sick feeling about this summer.. already :(

  10. jimmyfingers

    Big Tony Adams aka Mr Arsenal aka The Greatest Living Englishman. It’ll all our Christmas’ at once of he came back. First he can sort out the defence, then Wenger can groom him as his replacement, possibly with Dennis as co-coach. Dream team

    Is it wrong to point out I’ve been banging on about re-signing Henry since about November? Would be great to have him back at the club and there are precedents, I’m thinking Mark Hughes and Ian Rush, both came back from crap spells abroad to play fucking well for their old clubs

  11. Stupid

    problem with henry is, as outlined before, he can only play 10-15 games a season now with his back spasm thingy majiggy.

  12. Big Raddy

    I agree. It is a huge fee for an untested player. But then Sp8rs get ripped off every summer !! Hope Modic turns out to be another Bent

  13. jimmyfingers

    Shame Modric has gone to Spurs, as people have said he is the perfect replacement for Hleb if he fucks off. Although I hear Vela can play that role too

  14. Angry Loner

    Hleb has been very good this season, but I wouldnt be too arsed if he was sold. Especially if he was replaced with a more direct goal scoring winger. Seeing as we are gonna have Tone and Henry back, why don’t just go and get BobbyP back from Villareal then!

  15. Pedro

    Its funny in a an unfunny kind of way.

    If Flamini and Hleb both leave…

    Modric and Diarra could have been their replacements!

    We had one of them, and we let the other one slip through the net! Excellent planning King Arsene.

  16. Angry Loner

    Modric? Nah, he may be a decent player, but he is yet another lightweight short arse we can well do without!

  17. Finestcuts

    We’d definitely make better use of him than Barca, Henry has saved many a day, we could have done him when we were in trouble, we don’t have a “save the day” player.

    I had a feeling Henry would miss Arsenal in a big way, being a superstar he lives in a bubble and expected the transition to Barca to be smooth, that people would treat him like at Arsenal or better. He was the biggest fish in the pond here, now he’s one of many big fish.

    Will Arsenal’s prodigal son return?

  18. Angry Loner

    I aint one to slate Wenger (much) but IF Flam does go, that makes the sale of Diarra to be one of the biggest fuck ups by the boss. Seriously effin stoopid!

  19. BB

    second best signing ever for arsenal .. the resigning of TH14
    me thinks there is a 50% chance it will happen
    listen to what Galliani said about Ronaldinho and whether he is past his best
    “Form is temporary, class is permanent” .. totally applies to our own man as well

  20. patthegooner

    Pedro

    It is never nice to see your neighbors spend that much money on a player, but I just wonder where they are getting the money from, they are certainly not making that much profit. I also question Modric’s logic as it was only a few months ago that he was dreaming of Chelsea and Barcelona, and his coach said that they turned down 35m in January. Why did he not wait until after the Euros, he could have used it as a shop window for a move to a big club.

    Maybe the spuds are trying what Leeds did years ago and look where that got them. They may even have lined up Berbatov for a summer move and are just spending his fee now. I dont pay much interest in the spuds but I would have thought defence is where they need to invest.

    I think you are right, this is a big Summer for Arsenal, we need the right investment as I think another trophyless season/year in transition will not be accepted by the fans.

    I think Henry and Adams back would be the start of the lift we need, I agree that TH14 would be a perfect stop gap until the others fully progress and is proven unlike Villa who would blow the budget. Adams too would be a huge lift, although it must be as a coach and not as number two unless Pat Rice is retiring or wants a less invovled role.

  21. jimmyfingers

    Pat, I’m reading that Woodgate is comparing the feeling at Spurs to the feeling at Leeds when he was there, when they almost won a couple of things then sunk, almost without trace. We can but pray

    Sure Stupid, just don’t say anything bad about Terry or else

  22. suicidalsam

    i would love to see henry come back to arsenal. Tony adams would be another good thing if he comes to arsenal. he could tighten up the defensive line. would also love to see villa signing. a decent defender and a winger and we are good to go. :D

  23. GMR

    Tony Adams is out of contract at Portsmouth come the summer so Arsenal should be in there now getting him back before he agrees a new deal with Redknapp. Of course it won’t happen because Adams actually has an opinion & isn’t scared to voice it so Wenger wouldn’t ever entertain that idea.

    I can already hear Wenger talking before we next play Tottenham it will go something along the lines of “We nearly signed Modric, but we couldn’t match the 16 million Spurs offered” .

  24. jimmyfingers

    I think we should rebuild the invincibles: get Terry, Bobby, Freddie, Lauren, Sol, heck, lets even resign Kanu

    Ashley can fuck off though, unless we re-sign him just so we can beat the shit out of him

  25. Stupid

    this is the same old boring th14 argument, ffs!!

    living legend etc etc

    but he is NOT the player for us, anybody who even thinks there is a 1% chance of him being re-signed is deluded.

    btw – there is an extensive interview with the great man today on football focus (1215pm bbc1) seen some clips of it, he speaks VERY highly of Arsenal.

  26. Finestcuts

    We all know next season is massive, it’s make or break for us. If we go another season without a trophy, Wenger will need to go back to the drawing board as most of our big names would leave. We’d get a lot of money for them and it would help pay for the stadium but next season is trophy season, progress is imperative at this stage of our development.

    We’ve been hearing about the young guns for the last two seasons, Wenger can’t used that old hackneyed line anymore, they have experience beyond their years,
    we made a decent challenge for the title, we have to finish it off properly next season.

  27. Big Raddy

    I am with Stupid. Signing TH14 would be a mistake. We just don’t play that way anymore, and I fear he would tarnish his legendary status at THOF. Look at Fowler at L’pool.

  28. Pedro

    Patthegooner, I don’t think I am that bothered about Modric. Some players will only look good in great teams… I don’t think Modric looks like a world beater. I am sure Modric said he wasn’t interested in Spurs because they were a small club earlier in the year?

    The fact is, if he was that good, the big guns would have been knocking on his door… Newcastle and Spurs are not big guns.

    I am more annoyed that Spurs can afford to spend shed loads every year without going deep into debt… yet Arsenal seem to have issues every year?

    I agree, Adams would be perfect. Not because he has said he’d like to come back, but because we have a leaky defence and one of the greatest defenders this club has seen asking to help out.

    Don’t sniff at experience Arsene. Tony Adams has done a good job at Pompey and he is Gooner through and through. Keown was responsible for sorting it out a few years back on the Champions league run to the final. BRING HIM BACK!

    Still, Arsene has a list… lets hope it has some great players on it!

  29. Alan

    What doom and gloom. Flamster – don’t want him to leave but the big bonus ovr the past few weeks has been Alex Song. He can do that job and Denilson ain’t bad either.

    Hleb – I suspect he’s fed up with being kicked, just as Reyes was. You may remember AW saying that the pundits ought to see Hleb’s legs at the end of every game. I think that he has done superbly to keep coming back for more.

    I hope that Adams does come back as a defensive coach [good grief, it sounds like the NFL] but the club has Bould and Rice who are as experienced as any could be., Keown also did a bit of work early in the season, I wondwer why he did not stay longer?.

    AW’sbig decisions involve Rosicky, Gilberto and Eboue, all three of whom are liabilities in their way. Will they be better next season?.

  30. jimmyfingers

    Hush now Stupid, don’t spoil the dream. It’s Saturday, I’m hungover and have to work later. I need something to cling onto

    Where is this stuf about Big Tone BTW? I’m-a looking but-a can’t find it

  31. GMR

    Finestcuts, you say wenger can’t use that excuse anymore but he only recently said that in 3-4 years time they will be better, so based on that he’ll be using that excuse for at least the next 3 years & he expects the fans to think thats ok.

  32. Stupid

    Agreed Alan, i really think Song can step up and battle Diaby for the CM berth alongside Cesc.

    Both a re big tall imposing figures that won’t get bullied easily off the ball, for all his drive and energy.. flamini was still outbossed in games against more powerful midfielders.

    There is no surprise to learn we have not lifted a trophy since Paddy was running our midfield.

  33. Angry Loner

    Rosicky’s injuries are the liability with him, so IF he could stay fit, then he is a quality player, which we’ve missed big styleee.

    As for Eboue? He can fook rite orff!

  34. BB

    on ANR, Myles Palmer is saying that Hleb hs signed for İnter and that a statement will come out shortly..!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is breaking news

  35. Finestcuts

    Henry would only be a stop gap option, but yes that would be going against the grain of Wenger’s macro philiosophy on building a team, it’s a possibility that Wenger won’t rule out so neither shall I, but Wenger isn’t thinking about it at the moment, if it happened it would be near the close of the window rather than near the beginning,.

    I’m sure Wenger has a hit list already and Henry won’t be near the top. We actually have more money to spend than we did at Highbury after all bills paid, and I don’t think the board would put a limit on players Wenger wants to sign. He can ask for as much as he likes, he haven’t spent any money for the past few seasons and in that same space of time other clubs have spent tens of millions.

  36. Gelbs

    Wenger’s shopping list probably includes :

    16 year old Cameroon striker
    15 year old Dutch Defender
    14 year old Vietnamese winger
    19 year old goalkeeper

  37. jimmyfingers

    Finestcuts, there is also a principle which I believe is held by the board more than Wenger that Arsenal don’t re-sign players. Supposedly that is the reason we didn’t move for Anelka in the summer. Wenger wanted to, Anelka wanted to come and expected us to move for him, but the board vetoed it. That said I doubt they would veto Henry because he didn’t leave in the manner of a cunt like Anelka did and he’s a legend. We’ll see, I have my fingers crossed

  38. Gelbs

    Bit of luck Tony Adams will come in as manager. Be like Wenger, but ultimately, even better!

    I suppose if Hleb and Flamini stayed, Wenger would class them as new signings and reckon he won’t need anyone. When the joke is, they have never won anything at Arsenal. Both of them all. Says it all. Way it is going, we will finish outside the top 4. I dread to think who Liverpool, Chelsea and United etc are gonna buy.

  39. jimmyfingers

    Hang on Stupid, last summer we got Eduardo and Sagna. yes one got nobbled but the other must be a contender for player of the season. We sign two players as good as them this season and I’d be happy

  40. Pedro

    I would be surprised if Inter have tied up a deal that quickly… especially without Wenger being aware!

    I think it would be a good thing anyway… when you have midfielder who doesn’t score goals, doesn’t really assist that much… but looks great… maybe it ain’t such a bad thing?

    I’d like to see some goal scoring ability brought the midfield.

    I am getting pretty distressed at all things arsenal at the moment!

    This made me laugh though… (Not football related)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOohBytKTU

    If Hleb goes, will we bring in a proper wide player? Or will we go and find a cetre midfielder to play there again? Or put Kolo out there… or Bertie!

    We don’t need to sign anyone!

  41. jimmyfingers

    ‘I tried to install in the team a kind of ‘over our dead bodies’ kind of attitude’

    Gotta love the Big Man. Get that attitude into our back four and we’ll win everything going. Bring Mr Arsenal back!

  42. Pedro

    What are people thinking regarding the captaincy.

    Now the season is over, I think it is time to reconsider?

    Was Willy G a good captain? Or did Wenger make a mistake?

  43. Stupid

    jimmy – my point was more related to the inevitable summer charade surrounding our great club. We had it with PV4 for about 5 season, then with TH14, now with flam anf hleb.

    No doubt if RVP plays 40 games next season and scores 30 goals, we will have to battle off real madridor barca.

    thats what i meant about the same every summer.

  44. Stupid

    interesting quotes from Kolo, regarding the captaincy.

    Toure said: “Gallas was really good for us at the start of the season. But then after this Birmingham game he made a mistake, he knows that and we all tried to bring him back to the team and he came back well.

    “But when you make a mistake it is difficult after that – it was a really important part of our season.”

    Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has said he will review the situation in the summer and the likes of Cesc Fabregas and Toure have been linked with the role.

    “I would be really, really proud to be captain,” said the Ivorian centre-half.

  45. Pedro

    Wenger doesn’t seem to have control over his players and their agents?

    It doesn’t really happen to any of the other top 4?

    Why do we never tap up other clubs players? I understand the moralistic stand point… but doesn’t there come a point where you say… fuck, we get fucked over by big clubs every year…?

    If you can’t beat em, join em?

    We don’t act like a big club… we have the big stadium… the big ticket prices… the big manager… the biggest cash surplus

    The smallest transfer budget… the lowest wage ceiling… the youngest rawest players… the smallest pool of world class talent… the smallest squad…

    Lucky Arsenal have the worlds most patient fans…

  46. jimmyfingers

    True Stupid, but every club gets it: Gerrard, Fat Frank and Ronaldo all have rumours circulating them. Paddy was a cunt for continuously making us sweat, then got his just desserts when Madrid won’t pay him Galactico monay and then we sold him when he wanted to stay

    As for Gallas, he can fuck off as Captain. Toure said it right and staked his claim for the captaincy. Not sure I even want Gallas in the squad: if we buy, as hoped, a top centre back, then I’d prefer Toure to be his partner than Gallas.

  47. YangKamp10

    Great News about Mr Arsenal (remember that one?) Would love to see him back, and with Bergkamp taking his bages we could have a great pool of knowledge to draw from.

    Modric. Forget it, too lightweight for a team of, well lightweights! His best position is creative CM and for the flanks, we all know we need pace and goal threats, not another lad who can “pass it well” ffs.

    And what’s this shite about TH14 coming back? We are a foward looking club, someone mentioned the whole back spasm thing, Henry is good for about 10-20 games a season. For 80-120K a week, that is erm. Well Chavski economics.

    I’ve cooled on the David Villa thing too, he’s too similar to Eduardo for me, and wont offer the squad anything different IMO. If you believe what you read, bench warmer Robinho has been touted about by Madrid, and that is EXACTLY what we need, though how we are to get him with out Madrid asking for Cesc, etc and so on i dont know. I can almost hear that fuckwit of a president now. Glorious day fellas, check it out, and up the Arsenal Ladies (ahem) they just won the title again!

    Hey what are we thinking about the Krankjar thing? (apologies for spelling)

  48. enki

    erm the transfer window is not opened yet. also to remember that every season spurs outspend us but we still finish higher than them. But this year they have got a really good coach.

  49. jimmyfingers

    Robinho is lightweight for the Spanish league, which makes him a wisp of smoke for the English league. He’ll do a Reyes: get kicked a couple of times and run home crying for his Mum

    Kranjar sounds like a good bet tho

  50. goonerjay

    yangkamp… with you 100% mate… Robinho is the man we need… i think he is even worth the club taknig out a loan… it will get paid back with shirt sales anyway

  51. Stupid

    my biggest fear for this summer is Benzema signing for utd.

    he will be the best striker on earth within 3 years, and we need him.

  52. goonerjay

    Jimmy i take it you haven’t seen much of Robinho these days? He’s about as lightweight as that cunt Ronaldo… goes down when he can get a free kick but if he can beat his man he will stay on his feet and he isn’t that small so would just need a bit of toughening up

  53. goonerjay

    my biggest fear for this summer Stupid is that this becomes the year that we really are left behind and over taken

  54. Secret Squirrel

    Not that I’m bothered that the spuds have signed Modric but I just hope that we don’t wait all summer to see if Flaminin & Hleb stay, only for them to go elsewhere leaving us just a few days to sign replacements.

    This summer should be about making a statement of intent, to show Chelsea & Man U that we will be back stronger with a deeper squad, full of players that will last the whole season. We do need to add to the squad, we need experienced players who can compliment the kids currently occupying positions.

    We already have players like Modric in Rosicky and to be fair I can understand why we didn’t go for him. What we need are wingers like Pires & Overmars who can run with the ball, at pace with plenty of tricks and can score goals.

  55. edlass

    I am also absolutely flabbergasted about where spuds got the money from.
    Joe Lewis, the man behind Tottenham Hotspur owners Enic, is thought to have lost huge amount, asmuch as $900m in recent months, making him one of the biggest individual losers from the crisis surrounding US investment bank Bear Stearns.

    Anyway, would it be too much of a dream to have TH14 back here?
    He’d be perrrrfect..

  56. enki

    robinho benchwarmer. he been real best player for most of the season. unfortunately he has not been affected by injury recently so his form has dip.

  57. Stupid

    edlass, 900m at the lows of the stock price, at present the loss is arounf 500m.

    besides, drop in the ocean for him.

  58. Cesc

    henry won;t come mate. villa won’t come mate. flam will stay love hleb will stay love we need a 30 mil great striker like torres love who can score goals love

  59. Pedro

    haha, thanks for the links Finestcuts! Ghost rider was hilarious!

    Enki… just becuase the window isn’t officially open, it doesn’t stop players and clubs agreeing deals.

    Jimmy, you are right about my cup… its the hangover!

    The worst thing that Arsenal could do this summer is wait until August 31st… I really hope we dont go bargains shopping again. Get all your players early doors like Fergie did last year…

    Secret Squirel, complimenting what we have is exactly right… but with world class… not average cheap players that will take two years to shine.

  60. Gelbs

    Shame can’t have a team combined of :

    Seaman
    Lauren Campbell Adams Cole

    Ljungberg Vieira Petit Pires

    Bergkamp Henry

    Dreaming lol. And 4 British steel players.

  61. YangKamp10

    GoonerJay, and Stupid. TBH i think if we were going to get left behind it was supposed to happen 07/08. Henry out, nobody in. RVP out all season? We were supposed to be fcuked this year!
    I think we have a fantastic base to build on;
    Defence; quick and reliable fullbacks but we need Height and composure in the middle and a real leader. I dont have confidence in either centre half mentally.

    Midfield: The most creative in the league, but needs more goals. And directness. Vela will help, walcott WILL be fantatic, i believe that now. One goalscoring signing should make the bundle complete, and i dont mind sacrificing Hleb’s passing or Rosickys injuries for it.

    Forwards: Ade is ace. End of. He missed a shed load and still might get more than Torres in the league. He needs a class partner. RVP may deliver next year. One signing needed. Dont forget we have Theo to explode into a striking role too.

    Squad: Just needs strength in depth.

  62. Ethan_gooner

    oh its, pat ‘flamini will sign’ gooner !
    good to see he still cant find a pen in north london ..

    I think flamini has gone .. Or he would of put the media to bed by now….
    its time for him to suck the bucks , im just peev’d that diarra left ..
    Even thou he was a bit of a cry baby he would have filled the gap with a certain amount of quality.. Now who’s arsene going to sign / take from the reverses…

    Geoff ..
    I think that arsene said he’s confident he will sign article is a photo copy of his last
    statement .. Looks like the same old news to me …
    A lot of talk that AC .. have signed him .. or so rumors have it in italy ..

    Either way it just creates even more holes to fill in a already holy lineup ..

  63. goonerjay

    This summer if we can keep Flamini and Hleb and then add to the team with:

    either of Robinho/Ben Arfa or Quaresma

    A defender of either Kimpany or Zapata

    And a goalkeeper of either Gomez or Boruc

    And i think we would be sorted for next season

  64. Stupid

    I detest this man more than any other Arsenal player, EVER, more than cuntley.

    ———————————————————————————-
    His furious response to the spot-kick award led some to question his suitability as skipper, and the St Andrews stalemate kicked off a run of five league games without a win which effectively any hopes of the title heading to Emirates Stadium.

    But Gallas has defended his actions, telling the Daily Mail: “They [the media] can say what they want – they will not bring me down, I’m stronger than that.

    “It makes me mad because I don’t think (what happened in Birmingham) was our problem.

    “How can you summarise our season with that thing at Birmingham? That is not why we stopped winning matches.”

  65. Ethan_gooner

    hlebs seasons officially over ..
    a 3 match ban , i wouldn’t be surprised if its all made official pretty soon .

  66. YangKamp10

    If the Flamster leaves, then we have to sign to replace him. Without someone with pace and the ability to break moves up in the middle of the park, Cesc becomes half the player. In fact he becomes a bit of a liability IMO.

    Yaya was aweome against Manure in the week. Gutted we again couldnt get him. Amd potential replacements you guys have seen?

    Song and Diaby but have great potential but it is a key position, would be a huge risk…

  67. GMR

    You might just as well look around some small & medium sized clubs reserves teams for new players because thats the only place Wenger will be looking.

    I’ve seen the names Robinho, Benzema, Ben Arfa, Amauri, Modric (before he joined spuds), Villa & Kranjcar all named but its pointless. They are players the fans would like to see but they aren’t the players Wenger will be looking to sign. He will only buy unknowns so he can claim he made them!! Its all about the ego!!

  68. Stupid

    don’t rate him at all, think with diaby, denilson, song and gilberto we are covered in the middle.

    defence and flanks are of MAJOR concern

  69. YangKamp10

    That works for me Gooner Jay. No striker? Or would you use Robinho in the Bergkamp role?

    If we loose Flam for free then we have to use 10m+ from the budget to replace him, absolute nightmare senario. Give him 60k. He IS worth that.

    Not too fussed about Hleb, Quality through balls et al, but you must score from the positions he gets into, and we NEED goals from midfield. His over passing slows our attacks and lets defenders get back into posiiton. 15m to Inter. Sounds like good business to moi.

  70. patthegooner

    Ethan

    I think the majority of Arsenal fans think he will stay including the author of this blog, and I still think he will re-sign.

    but surely if he was definately off to Juve or Milan, then he would have signed for them by now too. But something is keeping from that and I believe that you have to view that as a positive indication that he really wants to stay. If it is down to our wage structure then maybe that is another question that needs looking at, because if we really are still in that boat that we cant pay players market rate or even close to it then we will have a repeat of this every year.

    As I said back in November, if he stays then great and I hope he does but if he leaves it is not for football reasons. He is playing for a great club in the best league in the world. Serie A is still on decline and most games are played in front of half empty stadiums. If he leaves he will regret it for the rest of his life.

    As for Diarra, I am pleased he left, he had no bottle to fight for his place and regardless of whether or not he is a good player we dont need that, he should have knuckled down and as it turns out he would have got a run towards the end of the season.

  71. Stupid

    even rosicky could be played centrally.

    we need at least one winger

    one nutcase, no nonesene centre half ( keown styley )

    and a out and out goalscoring goal hanging selfish arrogant striker.

  72. goonerjay

    Stupid according to Wenger in his pre derby interview with Arsenal.com he wanted to sign Yaya Toure and everything had been agreed but he couldn’t get a passport so couldn’t qualify for a work permit. Wenger asked him to serve his 5 years in belgium to get his EU passport but apparently he was too impatient and wanted to move to a bigger club

  73. Dave

    I´ll believe that Flamini and Hleb will stay when I see it. We need them both, they are great for the team. Why didn´t we go for Modric?????
    Henry was great in his day, but now that he is older he has lost a lot of his incredible speed and he is injury-prone – go for Villa.
    We also need a world-class goalkeeper and cnetre-back.

  74. Pedro

    Cancel all the speculation, I’ve found our man!

    He wont cost much, marshalling is his forte, he is experienced and he a bit rough round the edges!

    New Signing!

    What do you think?

  75. GMR

    goonerjay, he did say that but did you also hear him say that Yaya was impatient because the wages are low at Beveren. If Arsenal were so serious about him they could’ve helped pay his wages until such time he could join us. They are paying Vela’s wages so that excuse by Arsene doesn’t really wash. He didn’t want him.

  76. Ethan_gooner

    stupid
    you cant really blame gallas that we didnt score enough goals ..
    we play attacking football without scoring .. thats why we lost the title race ..
    sure our defenders lost there spirits .. but i would too! seeing chance after chance go begging ..

    We are light on in the attacking department .. and squandered way too much possession
    away to the opposition .. you loose possession in our style of play , of course they will have more chances to score .. more chances to be tested ..

    alumina fell off the pace too ! not distributing the ball properly ..
    i agree gallas shouldn’t be captain .. but how could you not get emotional that day
    with what happened too dudu !

    it was almost like the Kennedy assassination .

    and clichy made a HUGE blunder .. just like toure in the C.L !
    but thats been our season .. hasnt it .

  77. jimmyfingers

    Until the Hleb situation is clarified then there’s no need to think too much on Modric. We have an abundance of central midfielders and until Hleb needs replacing it’s the wings and defence that need the most attention

  78. goonerjay

    I don’t think anyone apart from Wenger and the Arsenal board knew that until that interview was put out yesterday mate… i assumed the same as you that Wenger didn’t want him but again it’s this rubbish about work permits.

    Why is it our country lets in more illegal immigrants than any other country and gives them houses and lets them live off the government but when a football club wants to bring in a fottballer who will pay thousands a month in tax they refuse to allow them into the country… instead we have to send them off to any other EU country to get an EU passport to qualify for a work permit… it’s rediculous… if it wasn’t for this rule we could have had Vela training with the Arsenal team 2 years ago to start adapting to the english game but as it stands he will get his first taste of the EPL this season

  79. Stupid

    gallas is not to blame for the whole mess, but he leadership leaves a lot to be desired.

    i will never forgive him for that brum incident, the way he erupted at a young clichy, yet he himself gave away a soft pen at old traff.

    lead by example, he leads by bullying.

    that bullshit team rallying charade at stamford bridge, where the rest of players were looking at him thinking “shut the fuck up you nob” , was the last straw for me.

    cunt. end of.

  80. GMR

    So what happens next week if Flamini doesn’t sign?? Is Wenger going to pack his locker up & kick him out the club??

  81. Ethan_gooner

    yes yaya couldnt get a WP ..

    Shame .. it would have been one of arsene’s better signings ..
    but hey we probably would of sold him already anyhow ..

    Pat
    And if back in november when we had this discussion he gave flamini a signing ultimatum
    or played diarra we wouldnt be worrying so much now about our midfield ..
    Diarra is a great player , regardless of his attitude , he was obviously promised some regular matches , thats why he got spiteful .he was let down by arsene !.. and left .. like i said he would ..
    now flamini is being linked in Italy with AC … its already in the papers there ..
    but for some reason we still have faith !

    arsene has brainwashed you with the faith talisman again mate ..

  82. Pedro

    Quite a similar style to Henry then Stupid?

    Making people feel like shite…

    Who is the answer? I really don’t believe cesc is! He is way to young… Kolo or the Flamster (If he signs) would be the best options for me.

    GMR… he will be marched off site and flashed with the memory wiper from MIB… then he will go on to flop at his new club…

  83. Stupid

    Think Kolo is great, but is a little to erratic at times, maybe the captaincy will calm him down a bit… but for my dosh, it has to be our little spanish maestro.

    He feels for the club like we do, you can see that in him, and he would defo lead by example. He has already shown more than enough maturity for his tender footballing years.

    But it aint gonna happen, wenger would never have the balls to take it off gallas, not a cats chance… etc

  84. Pedro

    but he said he would reassess.

    If the team are unhappy with him… he can’t go against that can he?

    He had the balls to take it off Berto.

  85. GMR

    Pedro, thats what I thought would happen.

    In reality though its just an empty threat & Flamini knows it. He can sign a new deal at Arsenal anytime he wants or leave when he wants. If he comes to Wenger on 1st August & says “I want to sign that contract now” Wenger will allow him to!! What should happen though is that the contract offer is withdrawn as of May 1st & we sign a replacement & Flamini has to find a new club, but we all know it won’t.

  86. Ethan_gooner

    geoff

    I dont want a draw !
    i want a ( my skins crawling to say it but ) Man URE win !
    we cant catch them .. but we can pass the chev’s
    we have superior (by 1 ) goal difference , but we are playing derby and i think 3 or 4 nil isnt out of the question .. providing wenger plays his strongest team available ..
    Not having to qualify for C.L .. and 2nd spot .. is something i think we can achieve
    and im sure its arsenes goal to try too achieve also .. so im sure if you asked arsene
    he will be backing red nose today …

    having said that the chev’s havent been beaten in over 80 games at home !
    quite a scary record .. but im willing to back red nose .. He must think this game will
    ensure the title race, if he wins today..

  87. Stupid

    yup he took it off berto, but he is a pretty relaxed mild mannered charachter… can you imagine billy’s response to having the captaincy taken off him?

  88. Pedro

    Its funny… we need 2-3 world class players now…

    If the Flam and Hleb leave, we need 5 new players… can you see that happening?

    Never…

  89. BB

    goonerjay..dont know about the taxes mate.. me thinks these boys get a nice low tax deal sorted out for them .. by their clubs
    would agre though that their VAT bills must be quite astronomical
    big holes then it is..no Flam..no Hleb .. but maybe the big man will turn up
    as for Wenger not resigning ex players, he will make an exception in Titi’s case
    he also said that he decided not to resign Anelka, it wasnt the board vetoing him

  90. Finestcuts

    Myanmar might be a good place to hunt for skillful up and coming squad players
    (well not really because of work permit issues, but an impressive vid nevertheless):

    http://www.footymedia.com/videos/Soccer_Freestyle/Extreme_Freestyle_Soccer

    Here’s an interesting article about the match fixing scandal allegations, don’t tell me Capello didn’t know at the time:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/makings-of-a-scandal-juventus-matchfixing-system-copied-by-their-rivals-407996.html

    Is it possible to root corruption in a single season?

  91. Ethan_gooner

    stupid

    totally agree with you on the captaincy .. I didnt like the way arsene did it either
    gilberto was at the copa and has the rug pulled out from him .. then the greedy flamster
    steals his spot .. You have to admire bert for still being loyal as hell to the club its a shame others dont have that affinity ! cough (HLEB!)

    Arsene gave the captaincy to gallas just to shut the fucker up ..
    to stop him bagging his teammates .. the inexperienced youth , and other outbursts to many to quote . ..he was vocal enough at chevski ..
    I think it was also to stop him from leaving last seaon when TH 14 did!!! I think if he gets the captaincy taken from him , it wont be the last we hear from the man !!
    He will go down screaming ..

    it will be a field day for the tabloids .

  92. Stupid

    i think in years to come, wenger will look back upon this period of his management and admit to grave errors.

  93. patthegooner

    Ethan

    Arsene has not brainwashed me at all, I am not a believer in the Arsene knows theory at all. My faith is based on the belief that I have that Flamini wants to stay at Arsenal. My concern is that we are a big club with a small clubs wage structure

    The Italian Press is just as ridiculous as the English and I would never believe a word of it.

    We have differing opinions in that you say if he is to stay he would have signed by now and i say if he was to go then he would have signed for someone else by now.

    I guess we will see next Friday

  94. patthegooner

    One thing I do agree with you on Ethan is that yes a Man Ure win today is what I want

    My heart says a draw and both clubs come down with a 3 week food bug from the after match meal, they both lose their remaining games, we win ours and win the league, but alas it would never happen

  95. Ethan_gooner

    stupid

    yes gallas is NOT captain material .. toure would be better .. but i still think he isnt the answer either !!!

    Yes geoff we can make 2nd .. i hope for arsenes sake he does it !
    Le boss is coping too much shite even for my liking .. it would be a minor victory
    if he overtakes the chev’s

    Pat , got to start believing some rumors or theres no point blogging !

  96. Pedro

    Lets hope Arsenal fancy brokering a deal… Barca will probably be keen to get him off the wage bill!

    I don’t like going back to old players for help, but he really would have won us some extra points this year.

    Ade would be happy to… he is such a Thierry FanBoy…

    New widgets in the sidebar.

  97. GMR

    Pedro or Geoff,

    Whichever one is doing the ‘Silly Season’ on the right hand side, don’t forget to include the following players that have been linked so far:-

    Amauri – Palermo
    Zapata- Udinese
    Dimitrov- Levski Sofia
    Albiol- Valencia
    Perrin- Saint Etienne

  98. choy

    what a shitty match.. some 300 million worth of players on the field and this nonsense that we have to go through … give me arsenal any day!

  99. GMR

    Chelski winning, a bad weekend just got worse. Man Utd will still win the league regardless of what happens in this game but a win for chelski means no chance of 2nd place for us.

  100. chris

    dont discount the euro hangover GMR, there is more points to be lost in the league by these two teams, not saying we will win but you know what i mean

  101. Ethan_gooner

    stupid

    I have mixed emotions about cesc as captain, it seems every captain we chose recently its becomes the armband of doom for … henry – bert – gallas .. all got the arse end of arsene :)

    well there goes our shot for 2nd spot ..
    ballacks header .. plus stupid red nose has got ronaldo on the bench ..
    typical Man U defend and counter .. boring game to watch it must be said ..

  102. Pedro

    Well… if we win all our games, then we could finish 4 points shy of first?

    Not terrible? A marked improvement on last year!

    Not that it matters… 2 key players leaving would fuck all our progress up!

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