We take the pain, they make the gain. So, Benzema, Huntelaar or Villa?

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First of all I would like to focus on two players, Flamini who can leave on a free in June and Hleb, who can buy himself out of his contract in the summer.

I remember last season, both were figures of ridicule by many Arsenal fans, and many wanted them gone.

At this point the management should have either sold them and got a return, or made them sign new contracts so in the event they decided to leave, at least have made something on them.

What we could now see is the ridiculous situation of two of Europe’s finest, walking out the door for nothing or little. Poor planning from the money men in my book, but having said that, it will show how loyal those two are to the fans, we suffered them both for 3 years, losing possession, getting carded, failure to shoot, the list goes on and we all groaned, but we never jeered, we always supported them.

Now they’ve come good, they should repay our lack of booing with a little contract signing, they should also remember the Arsenal curse, I personally would like to see them stay and think they will, but if not, who cares? Arsenal will still be there long after them and we must move on.

We are still being linked in various sections of the press with the big three, Huntelaar, Benzema and Villa, I have mixed feelings on them all, but would like one of them, if you understand that! I think Wenger should study their medical records before making a decision.

Who would I go for? Tough! Is Huntelaar proven? would Benzema be another Aliadiere – but cost more? is Villa too small? I think given the Cesc situation, another Spaniard, in the toughest of the three leagues may tip it for me, but I wouldn’t kick any of them out of bed, if you get my drift.

That’s the forward line sorted, I’ll talk defence tomorrow.

Have a speculative day Grovers and don’t mention the ‘chav’ word.

254 Responses to “We take the pain, they make the gain. So, Benzema, Huntelaar or Villa?”

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  1. charybdis1966

    Pedro, yup, I am a mult-proxy poster.

    No problem though, I get through eventually.

    I don’t believe we’re skint either – if we’re not gonna spend big then a rebate on season tickets -or reduced prices would be nice.

    But Lumpus Maximus will have to refuse pies by the dozen before that happens.

  2. Odub

    I’m really trying to be positive going in to the end of the season especially after how everything kind of blew up in our face ion the last few weeks.

    But the whole 75 mill is now 25 mill and all these cnuting players fucking off, as well as the very uninspring noises coming from Le Boss are dragging me back down into the black hole of misery!

  3. GMR

    If Hleb has any morals at all then he would not leave unless Arsenal get a decent offer. If he comes out & says ” I want to go” then fair play he’s getting on & it seems certain Wenger’s looking for more kids & reserve players from the back of beyond so you can understand it.

    Hleb does have the option though of telling any club that wants him to pay Arsenal a fee or tell them he won’t join. If he does it the cowards route by handing in his notice at the end of the season then we’ll all know what a total w****r the guy was & we’ll also know he didn’t give a toss about the fans.

  4. Pedro

    Playing devils advocate here…

    But why would you sign on at Arsenal again if you were 28? You can pretty much guarantee that you will be out on your ass after you hit 30.

    Sign for Inter and you can still land yourself a sexy little 4 year deal at 31!

  5. alex

    where did you guys find out we only have 25 million?

    and if its true screw getting a striker lads we need a HUGE CB that will win it for us.

    ade will become more consistant, rvp will be fit, and walcott wil be able to play striker now that vela is back to play wing.

    i bet 3 lads from the reserves are going to pop up for first team backup.

    as for goalies , sadly almunia will probley stay number 1.

    anyone have a video on vito manonne?
    he started on the bench for us so he has to be able to be third.

    thats if all this 25 mil. kitty business is true.??

  6. Stupid

    guys this blog is great, but why do you always stoop so low and bash other arsenal related blgs/sites?

    no need.

  7. charybdis1966

    Something that ocurred to me about Gilberto – if Makele can play in midfield at 34 and be a valuable squad member, why the hell can’t Gilberto at 31?

  8. Odub

    Wouldnt appeal to me Pedro, which means most established world beaters with 5 years+ experience would look at us and think… thanks but no thanks!!

  9. Paulinho

    Hleb’s silence in this whole issue is speaking volumes. He usually comes out pretty quick with the denials and he hasn’t said nowt on his website for ages.

  10. TH14's Sense of Arrogance

    Yeah but I don’t even think that would work Pedro, how can you get cheaper transfer deals by saying ‘oh we don’t have any money!’ it’s ridiculous. Players cost what they cost, and they don’t go cheaper than their value many times. They go for more a lot though. Chelsea set a precedent in the summer when they walked away from the Alves deal due to the extortionate price they got from Sevilla for him. Teams will realise they cannot do that now. The release clause in contracts are also completely ridiculous. Isn’t Henry’s like £100m??? Joke.

    The fact is we have money, we don’t like spending it, but we are not the tightest club in the world (we spent £450m on a stadium??) but we have a very tight manager. Why? I don’t know. I think he is growing stubborn in his old age. Lest we forget he spent around or over £10m on Reyes, Wiltord and Jeffers, yet spent much much less on PV4, Cesc and Sagna! I think he likes to stick to his policy of buying players with potential for between 4-8mil and bringing them on, he is not good at buying the ‘real thing’ as he has been burnt in that department before.

  11. Stupid

    odub – ANR seems to be at the forefront for much abuse, on a regular basis.

    Read comment earlier on from today.

  12. Arsenaldo

    well some players Do sign for us in their later career. Gallas , Almunia, Lehmann(although goallies), Bergkamp , Gilberto but in general you r right Pedro. The positive is most of the youngsters want to come here which is not too bad.

  13. gazzap

    agree with Pedro. what 28 year old looks at Arsenal as a viable option to join OR stay. hleb is only 26 so I dont see that he is quite at that stage yet.
    I just dont understand the policy. If you have a shot 29 year old then you dont give him a 3 or 4 year contract. if you have the worlds best 30 year old then you should have no worries about giving him a 3 or 4 year contract. surely it all depends on the player.
    I dont think man u could be up for the double without Scholes and Giggs. we send Pires off to fucking Spain when he still had 4 years left in him!! he was only asking for a 2 year contract.

    our wage structure and the over 30′s policies need reviewing pronto.

  14. charybdis1966

    Arsenaldo, am I being cynical in thinking youngsters want to come to Arsenal to develop into great/good players so they can then f*** off when they get a good offer from elsewhere when they are approaching their peak ?

  15. Odub

    with you on that Stupid, no need to slag others off, we do well here without getting involved with interblog warfare like we did a couple of weeks back!!

  16. Frichie

    I think the U17 policy needs reviewing too. Just read some of what AW was saying. And the depth of his insanity is clear

    Wenger added: “I believe at some stage you need to strengthen the team, but changing the team means kick some players out and replacing them. That is not the feeling I have. I feel this team has been absolutely tremendous.”

    Im sorry the team has done well, but how can you not want to replace Eboue, 0 goals, 0 assists and he has started practically every fuckin game!!!, Senderos, had some good games while we were cruising after Christmas, but put him up against a Drogba or Torres and bang there goes your title/CL/final dreams.

    I feel like screaming at my desk!

    AND THEN!!!!

    “My first target of the summer is to make sure what we have here stays here, and after, if there is still money available, to buy players.
    “It is not as simple as it looks when you read there is so much money available to buy players – that transfer budget also includes the improvement of the wages.”

    Now is it more or is he saying to Hleb, Flamini, that if you dont accept what we paying you, we not going to have money to buy new players???

  17. GMR

    Why is it that the new Webster rule is only affecting Arsenal?? I haven’t heard even the slightest whisper that a player is leaving any other club via this route, it appears only our players are happy to do it!!

    It’s pathetic, if Man Utd, Chelski, Liverpool or any of the top european clubs aren’t having this problem, why are we?

    After all under this rule we could go for Robinho, Kaka, Buffon & Eto. Is Wenger really so bad that he can’t even use the rule to his advantage. I’m not saying all or even any of those players would join us but I’m sure there are others that would.

  18. Geoff

    Stupid, once again you need to read what I said, let me try again…

    It’s Le Grove policy never to comment on other sites, some we like and some we wouldn’t give the time of day to, but we never bash them, ever.

    My comments were relating to something Gazzap said so I asked him where he got his facts from, he said ANR.

    I said why on earth do you think they know more? I quite like ANR so I wasn’t site bashing, I’m a shareholder of Arsenal, so they would only know what I do, if Edelman says Wenger has £70 mil for players, that’s what he means, otherwise the accounts would say £70 mil, less salaries, less payments for this, that and the other, but they don’t.

    I hope that clears up your blog bashing comment.

  19. Pedro

    Stupid, if the topic of conversation is an ANR article, then what is the problem in offering an opinion?

    People are saying Arsenal are skint… we have the annual reports that say we are not…So Geoff questioned the integrity of the information, big deal?

    We don’t bash other sites either, that is a load of bollocks.

    I think you are a little sensitive towards Myles Palmer sometimes…

  20. Ethan_gunner

    MR TH arrogance !

    one minute your saying

    ‘No way do I want foreign ownership….I want the club to stay in the hands of the current board….why? Well for my part, I am proud to be an Arsenal fan, I am proud of the way our club conducts itself ‘

    THEN YOU SAY

    I’m with Geoff, to say Arsenal are broke or unable to afford transfers is preposterous. As mentioned on multiple occasions we make shed loads from the prices we charge for tickets, one of the highest gate receipts in Europe. I also read somewhere that we make tonnes more than any other club on matchday sales – food/drink/programmes etc.

    If we genuinely have no money, I want to know who the fuck is lining their pockets at our expense?

    YOUR ANSWER

    THE BOARD !!!
    who else !? is responsible for money decisions ! THE BUCK STOPS THERE !!!!
    get the fuckers out the old stiff gits and bring in someone who will globally brand us
    and make us the CLUB that pedro claims we are ..
    Can you compare us to AC milan ? Barca ? man U even liverpoo .. ???
    NO , we havent got the fan base ! Never will have whilst we are 4 seasons behind every other fucker !

    We need a HUGE cash injection .. we run the club like the salvation army , and price our tickets like harrods ! gimme a fuckin break ! these clowns are as greedy as the flamster !!!

    as you say lining there pockets .. for the future whilst our clubs silverware cabinet suffers !!!

  21. SFO Gooner

    Does anybody think Hleb intentionally slapped Murty so he could get an early vacation and have some ice cream?. It seems weird that he gladly accepted the violent conduct charge, got the 3 match ban. There is also no defence of his conduct from wenger either.

  22. Pedro

    Not a charm offensive Stupid, just a bit of integrity defending.

    If you like ANR, great, but don’t say we blog bash him or anyone else because we don’t.

  23. Finestcuts

    @ Frichie, you’re bang on the money, that exactly what he’s saying.

    He’s saying to Hleb and Flamini, we are not going to buy to replace you, we want you to stay, here’s how much we’re prepared to pay, please take it.

    I believe what Wenger says, that after all costs and wages, we currently have 25m to spend, and anything more will be added from sales.

    Hleb won’t get us much money either, he’ll buy out his contract, a few million for Arsenal, same with Eboue and anyone else who has a year left.

    I also believe that Arsenal will continue to produce the kind of football we saw in the first season, I don’t believe we’ll fall out of the champions league places, and we really have to give Arsenal a chance for next season.

    Wenger has talked of us winning silverware, that if thats what players are looking for, they should stay at Arsenal. Next season we’ll at least get second and get to the Champions League final, I like Arsene have faith in this team and have a feeling we’ll be winners next season.
    We’ve got Theo, Fabregas, Van Persie etc. all locked into solid contracts, we need to sort this out. If Adebayor goes we’ll get at least 20 mill for him.

    If you count a mill a goal he’s currently worth 27 mill.

  24. Tony

    Everyone seems so negative and thinks spending money is the answer to all of our so called problems. If it was Liverpool would have won the premiership by now. Let look at this foreign ownership thing.

    Chelski have a bottomless pitt and can afford to lose in excess of 70 Million every year. We cannot and never will and quite frankly I would not want to. I think what they are doing is almost cheating.

    Liverpool have spent absolute fortunes and we are better than them and their board are an embarrassment to a club with a proud history and great traditions. I would not want that either!! Man Utd have the Glazers with a huge amount of debt. Yes they have won the league and also benefit from playing football almost as attractive as ours, however, they own their stadium, and have the biggest merchandising in football which is why they can manage their debt and still buy big. They have had years of bringing in massive money so it is a well oiled machine but I still wouldnt want to be in their shoes with a single billionaire owner who has transfered his massive debt in buying the club to the clubs bottom line. what if he were to pull out or become ill (he is not a young man) etc they could be in big trouble.

    There are also many other clubs with big spending benefactors but we are better than all of them so I call on us all to show a little patience. We have had only 2 years with an income even close to that of Merchandise United and in that time we are also balancing the books with huge property developments. In the next year or so the properties that have been sold will be finished and once buyrs complete we will get massive incoming funds, the debts will be much much smaller and then we will be better off financially than almost any club in the world.

    what is more we are watching some fantastic football and came so close this year. Yes we definately need som additions to the squad as well as replacing anyone that leaves but we were not that far away from greatness this year. Decent CB cover and a decent finisher and we would all be singing a different tune!!!

  25. Odub

    Sorry didnt bother going thru other comment, so the blog bashing never happened and all’s well and it’s a happy ending for all no?

  26. Finestcuts

    @SFO Yes gooner, I’m cynical, i think he was told by his agents to do that to make sure that A) He is in a fit and complete state for his new club next season….it’s a done deal, he’s not going to play for Arsenal next season, why risk the injury
    B)To stop the fans saying “don’t go”, it makes a players transition easier if there are no ties to the old club.

    Very italian, very organized, slap him so the referee can’t see but so the camers can.
    Hleb is a pro, he lknows every action of his is filmed and that everyone is always looking for some sensation. He intentionally slapped Murty, conscoiusly, he knew what he was doing, he knew it would be caught on cam and replayed….

  27. Finestcuts

    There is a striker in the Premier League that I think is very good, better than The or Bendtner, and thats Roque Santa Cruz. If we bought him we’d make him even better, but I know Wenger won’t go for him.

  28. SFO Gooner

    FinestCuts.
    That seems to be the only logical explanation for Hleb’s bizarre behavior. Did anybody at the stadium see any previous tiff with Murty before the ‘Slap’?

  29. choy

    at least he should have gone out with a bang… a proper punch… lol..

    what the fuck is happening to our team!!!!

    all the uncertainty that surrounds us…..

    roque cruz was injured all the time just like rvp.. gives me hope…

  30. YYZ Gooner

    Guys, the ANR article was simply an analysis of 6-months financial results and from there arose speculation.inference of the 25M available based on available cash. However, if I recall correctly, Edelman said that there is an available borrowing facility of approx. 50M that is available and could be tapped into if Arsene requested. And as we know, Arsene has never requested that the facility be used. That siad, since the facility has never been used, it never appears on financial statemtns,(it might be in the notes?). So based on how I interpret it, yes there is approximately 70M available if Arsene wanted to spend. But Arsene doesn’t borrow to spend, so we are back to the 20-25M net avaialblity. But as we know, Arsene typically genrates about 10-15 in selling surplus parts which can be added to the availble 20-25M. Not great but not too bad.

  31. Pedro

    No Odub, there was no blog bashing!

    This is a blog of peace and love!

    I’m off to watch the Mancs Vs Barca!

    COME ON THIERRY!

  32. choy

    wish that russian mofo would give arsene 100 mill to spend.. show his love for the club or something like that.

  33. Finestcuts

    Yeah there’s a 50m overdraft, and extending the debt would probably make the club unmanagable. All the Glazier’s do is reservice the debt, if we want to be a club that keeps reservicing debt ad infinitum there will be a day where it COULD overwhelm us and we’d Usmanov to step in, and that would end the Arsenal dynasty, a club laden in debt like Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U. It’s an ugly scenario and those clubs might not always be top 4.

    So do we want to be a club run on tick?

  34. Finestcuts

    Chelsea are basically a bankrupt club, if Abramovitch left them with their debts and went off the club would collapse. Same with the Glaziers, they can keep taking out loans, but it’ll be for future owners to repay them and the clubs income might not meet the debt unless the owner ploughed his own cash into the club. I repeat, those clubs are all bankrupt….they will eternally be run for the profit of the banks whose loans are made on them, thats what a bank wants, a club to pay all it’s income in interest payments.
    Do we want the banks owning Arsenal? Arsenal are aiming to be a debt free club, projected income would be all the money we spend on debt + more because of ticket prices going up etc. We’d have transfer budgets of 200 m a year, Let me see Manyoo or Chelsea or any other club compete at that level.
    The way Arsenal will win in the long term is….those club will not be able to reservice their debts to the amount they want to spend, they can’t keep big players and they get sold to the no,.1 s and 2s, they can’t reservice any more debt and they decline.

    Arsenal as an eternally debt free club is the only way forward. spend what we have,repay the loans as quickly as possible.

  35. Pedro

    Guys, a £70 million cash surplus is simply that… a cash surplus.

    Edelman said Wenger could spend it in Jan… why have things changed because someone from the supporters trust has taken an educated/uneducated (Do we know his accounting background?) guess at what the figures mean?

    £25 million is set aside as security for the stadium… but we can borrow £40million out of an overdraft? Hmmmm…

    £30 million ‘may’ be deposits from the houses…. so that is a big if. I am pretty sure Arsenal holdings run the property side… so that seems a big if again, and if it is housing deposits, why would that make it untouchable?

    So everyone is getting there knickers in a twist over an article written by someone who is no better informed than you or I (Correct me if someone has seen this guys C.V)?

    It seems interesting that we have £70 million available when Arsenal know Wenger wont spend… now he needs to strengthen and certainly shell out some dollar… we are skint again?

    Very odd… but I am not implying it is Arsenals way to act skint. We never pick up bargain buys across Europe when pretending to be skint do we?

  36. Pedro

    If anyone does respond to me… I am out… not thinking about a really great reply!

    See you at 10 if anyone is about!

  37. choy

    spot on pedro… just that i guess the english fans would object.. but we have to look at the big picture…

    there will be billionaires buying small clubs and turning them into chelseas.. we don’t wanna see that happening…

  38. Finestcuts

    it’s not a problem, the boom and bust cycle in economics. The only way to survive boom and bust is to spend at your current income levels, something all debt ridden clubs…..and a football world where all the club money goes on repaying debts while more loans are taken out with the hope of earning more income next year is the current trend. Exactly what the banks want, while money is secured on the club, if repayments are not made, the club goes into administration.

    There will be some huge administration cases in the next 20 years, believe you me, Leeds was just the first, there will be greedy owners who want to remortgage the club….get some shitty team and it all ends p midtable or worse.

    Everyone has to look after themselves, so in the boom and bust world of football, you can’t be in debt, your club could go to the shithouse tomorrow like Valencia and then you’re screwed.

    Once you can’t pay off your ticks and you’re in need of a generous “Usmanov” you’re knee deep in shit, he refinances the debt putting the club into even deeper debt and you get a Fulham scenario, someone who wants to stay in the Premier League on the cheap.

    The good news is, Wenger has built a cast iron gurantee against relegation with his training system, for the next 5 years the club will most probably have Champions League football, and Wenger is someone who can provide us with Champions League stability and we know he’s a title and cup winner. Arsene’s silverware days are not over people, don’t ever believe anything different.

    We are not as big a clubas we’d like to be yet, and the only way to do that is to see a project through that will provide hundreds of millions for generations to come.

    History will have this transiitional phase down in one sentence and fans hundreds of years from now will be looking back at what Wenger did and they’ll say “it was worth it” and that Wenger did a good job. When Wenger will see it through to that day when we’re debt free and he will have NO restrictions.

  39. SFO Gooner

    Watching Barca’s Finishing in the final third makes gunners(especially Ade) finishing look very good!

  40. YYZ Gooner

    I am starting to get worried, here is the way I see it…The board and Arsene are trying to run the club like a proper business. Making sure revenues are greater than expenses and have a surplus every year blah blah blah. But football is not a proper business it’s a plaything for the rich or a de facto trust for the supporters with little but some concern for the bottom line. Really, if you want a proper business with proper returns…you don’t own a football club, you design some widgets and outsource the production to China. However, we are competing with Chelski… a plaything for some rich guy….ManUre where they buy the club with debt, load on more debt, build equity through building the brand and sell in the future, realize a gain on capital, with little investment. Then there is Pool, well I really don’t know what’s going on there but it’s likely a combination of Chelski and ManUre.

    So Arsene comes up with this brilliant plan, buy cheap unproven talent, wait for them to mature and voila, he can compete with the big boys without spending the cash and stick to our principles of not spending what we don’t have.

    Only one problem, our competitors keep raising the bar, when our team matures, if they don’t leave first, our competitors will raise the bar even higher. Don’t want to be a doom-monger, and I love Arsene, but the future does not look good without a radical change in philosophy or ownership. And like some mentioned above, it’s simply a matter of time before ther are more barbarians at the gate in the form of Abramovich or Glazer and we are back to being a midtable club.

  41. YYZ Gooner

    Finestcuts, good piece, but if I interpret what you are saying correctly, we have to readjust our expectations of winning trophies. We have the choice between being a debt-free club without a megalomaniac as an owner or being a principled well-run club that wins the occassional medal. I can live with the latter but I think it would fair for the board and Arsene to come out and say that instead of building up our expectations.

  42. Finestcuts

    Yeah but I don’t think the buffer will kick in, I believe we’ll be challenging for trophies every season for as long as he’s manager, it’s unrealistic to win the title every year on the spin, no one has won it three times in a row so the Mancs look statistically out next season.

    We have to remember we’re competing against Man United……and the crazy thing is, Arsene can make us better than Manyoo, we’ll win trophies they’re competing for. In 10 years time we could be bigger than Manyoo, and we’ll win trophies along the way too. We should let Arsene get on with things, speculate, crticise what we don’t like applaud what we do…but along this journey I believe we will be winning trophies.

    I’ll see you all at a match when we win a trophy, it’ll be soon!

  43. Stupid

    ROFL , my charm offensive comment earlier was very much tongue in cheek btw ;)

    Quite disappointed, but certainly not surprised at the level of Geoff’s response.

    I did once catch him out, not sure he has ever really forgiven me for that.

  44. Finestcuts

    Chelsea v Manyoo looks to be the final unless Barca can pull off a fast one at Old Trafford and Liverpool figure out how to score a goal at Stamford Bridge.

    I’d much preder a Liverpool v Barca final…but thats what it looks like.

    My personal faves to win are:

    1)Barca
    2)Liverpool
    3) Chelsea/Manyoo

    Real favourites:

    1)Manyoo
    2)Chelsea
    3)Barca
    4) Liverpool

    Once again, Liverpool stand the lowest chance of getting therough. Can they beat the odds at Stamford bridge? A huge ask, I think their luck has run out if they couldn’t sort it out at Anfield. They should have gone there with a win and look for a draw.

    Ronaldo didn’t get his goal, but Manyoo are definitely favourites at Old Trafford, but there is always a chance of an upset, this one could go into extra time.

    I think Chelsea will beat Liverpool, going for a Stamford Bridge win is mission impossible, when were they last beaten there?

  45. Finestcuts

    Arsene needs to take both the Carling and FA cups seriously. We can win those trophies, and trophy winners won’t want to leave.

  46. Finestcuts

    Yeah but allow the youth to start it off, and when it gets hot in the semi-final allow the best team available to play, then we’d win it, and we need to let our best players win trophies, and kudos to the youth who got us there.

    Those two trophies are winnable, these are both cups we should aim to win this year.

  47. terry

    watched the game tonight man u were not up to much if barca get a goal at o t they should go through i hope th14 to score

  48. terry

    point taken on the cups sounds like a good plan give us somthing to cheer but I also think that the first team is not far off a couple of good singings and we could win the pl

  49. Stupid

    A quote from le boss

    There is money there [for transfers], but not as much as I read in the newspapers because that is not true,” Wenger said. “However, with my financial package the first thing I have to make sure is we keep the players we have at the moment. That is what people forget.

    —————

    so lets start afresh and scrap all this mundane 70M transfer kitty crap.

  50. DeeOzGooner

    finestcuts

    great piece…and totally agree…everyone is bangin on how we aint won anything, but imagine the agnst if we were mid table, our in the bottom 10 like sp*rs

    we are a club wit principles and morals and shudn vary from that path

    arse started strong this season and lead the way, despite everyone writing us off this season. if we started poorly and ended up where we are now then everyone would be saying its a great effort and to watch out nx season….guess we all got ahead of our selves earlier on in the season and our hopes were built up, but im happy with the way things are progressing, WE ARE ONLY GETTING STRONGER!

    my only regret for this season is letting diarra go…and im sure wenger rues that decision…tho i have much faith in song, and our forwards! i too am an ade doubter…but he can only get better…if he turns out to be the nx drogba we’d all be cheering and be singing THAT song even louder!!

    the future is bright…its red & white…cmon u gunners!

  51. DeeOzGooner

    oh and not sure if anyones noticed but if the following takes place…and it very realistcally can…then the season may end up being interesting!

    chelski v manure draw
    manu lose to westham (they have done this quite alot recently)
    chelski lose to newcastle (keegans got them charging)
    arsenal win all remaining games

    WE WIN THE PREM!!!

  52. Finestcuts

    We’ll see this weekend Dee, but that would be freakish if it happened. I don’t expect lightning…it happens….

  53. DeeOzGooner

    yeh bout time he earnt a bit of that huge pay-packet! LOL still cant beleive they paid him that, and expected him to stay fit!

    but wud be nice of freddie to do us a favour!

  54. SIMON MCAHON

    all ths talk about the so called transfer kitty has got me worried , especially when wenger comes out and makes a point of telling everyone that the sums being thrown around are inacurrate, I HOPE THIS IS A SMOKESCREEN FROM WENGER, But i’m concerned already that this is an excuse in waiting for the summer when i fear we will carry on the pattern of the last few years and spend little ammonts of money.
    MEMEO TO BOARD AND WENGER THE MONEY BELONGS TO US THE SUPPORTERS, TRY SOMETHING NEW AND TREAT US WITH RESPECT.
    WE DESERVE A BUZZ SIGNING,READY MADE INTERNATIONAL,
    oH AND AT LEAST ON THIS SITE UNLIKE SOME OF THE OTHER SO CALLED SITES THAT ARE FOR ARSENAL FANS , OPINION AND CONSRUCTIVE POINTS OF VIEW FROM ARSENAL FANS OF MANY YEARS ARE WELCOMED, NOT PUT DOWN BY PLASTIC NOVEU PART TIME GLORY HUNTERS, WHO BELIEVE EVERTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THE BOARDROOM .
    SO ARSENE SPEND OUR FU….G MONEY IN THE SUMMER ON QUALITY ESTABLISHED TALENT AND SHOW PEOPLE YOU CAN HANDLE BIG PLAYERS.
    AND BY THE WAY, HLEB AND FLAMINI IF YOU WANT TO GO F… OFF , AND REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE STRUGGLING WITH FORM MOST OF US WERE BEHIND YOU TRYING TO ENCOURAGE YOU,
    THANKS FOR THE SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR US..
    JUDAS’S

  55. DeeOzGooner

    simon

    i for one dont beleive it has to be a ‘big name’ player…wenger brought in Bak & dudu and everyone was like who the fuk??…and look how great they were!

    granted we cant keep promoting and expecting wonders from the youngsters, but i think some mild additions would be enuf

    dont wana see hleb go as he’s quality…and luv watching him on the ball…but his loss if he goes! he wont find our brand of football anywhere else! with him going, walcott will get more of a run…and vela’s coming, so i think one more addition to mf wud b ideal

  56. A

    I don’t understand how people(including the media) are unable to understand the publically available figures. There is £70 million pounds cash available, but £25 million of that is security money for the stadium. This means that there is a transfer budget (including wages), of around £45 million pounds for the summer, which is more than enough. Two additions to the squad are necessary, a goalscoring attacking midfielder/winger of the ben arfa/modric/diego mould, and a world-class commanding centre back such as lucio. Any other signings will only happen if current players leave. I find it ludicrous that rumours about villa, huntelaar etc remain when wenger has stated repeatedly he will not buy a forward, as he believes it will restrict the development of future world class forwards in Bendtner, Theo, and Vela.

    Simon Mcahon how on earth does the club’s money belong to you?! That’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard, although there seem to be many ridiculous arsenal related rants at the moment everywhere one looks.

  57. DeeOzGooner

    i think an experienced defender & a mf is enuf…tho another goalkeeper is probly needed too…

    we shud go for jaaskelinen…he’s quality and i think he’s out contract this season…and if theres a god then bolton will go down this season, and he’d be easy to pik up!!

  58. DeeOzGooner

    anyone realised that if the flamsta goes to juventus then his first game for them(if he dares) will be at the emirates!…in the emirates cup!!

  59. Finestcuts

    Harvard Nordveit is ready to step in, we’ve trained him all season and he has improved in all areas…when he joined Wenger said he was already technically ready but not physically. Now the lad is physically ready…
    CB sorted.

  60. Paulinho

    Hleb is a large part of the reason we play the football we do. If he goes a large dollop of wengerball goes with him.

  61. Finestcuts

    Hleb’s too much of a pussy, we need a proper attacking midfielder, 10+ assists and 7+ goals a season, proper class, Hleb is not a champion, he’s above average.

  62. DeeOzGooner

    agreed! if hleb cant bang in the goals with the opportunities the arse create then he wont do it anywhere else!…he’s mad to leave, wont get into the first XI anywhere, well not for atleast a season and a half!

    and why would anyone want to give up the chance of playing alongside the worlds best prospect…cesc???!

    its like anelka regretted leaving whilst having a chance at forming a formidable partnership with henry…

  63. Ethan_gunner

    pedro
    Pedro Says:
    April 23, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Guys, a £70 million cash surplus is simply that… a cash surplus.

    Edelman said Wenger could spend it in Jan… why have things changed

    Why because it was a lie to begin with !
    it was a fabrication for arsene to state , his way is BEST ,look at you fools 4 spending big money when i have clearly found another way that is successful .. Also to help appease the fans who feel like us ..

    I told you it was a conspiracy theory of mine .. last month ..
    they never had the money .powder puff bag war chest ?!. that was pretty obvious the last few years
    as he sold off all his main assets as players and replaced them with younger ones .
    LESS WAGES – MORE TRANSFER FEES FOR OUR X- HERO’S
    and every year he has sold players!! he has NEVER gone over what he made off them .
    Like a self maintained transfer kitty .. like last season 19 mil in from th14 and Freddie
    3-4 mil for Jeremie gave him about 23 mil to spend .. it was about 15 on dudu and sagna 2 mil for the young goalie and 1 mil for the young defender . the club pocketed about 1-2million in surplus because we bought diarra at the death knock for 2 mil ..
    sold him for 4 mil … giving arsene about 3 mil surplus on transfers this season !

    Sorry but i cant see things getting any better whilst we have an over 30 policy .
    whilst we have a wage policy .. WE HAVE NEVER SIGNED a class player .
    think of every player at this club .. He became famous HERE !
    we can banter about who he will pick , but my guess is NO ONE we know !! or would have thought to buy .. Rosicky has been about the most famous player prior to joining us i can think of .. or maybe sagna last season .. but we dont buy robinho’s or benzemas , villa’s .. Because arsene knows the financial burden OBVIOUSLY , cash burden grove ALRIGHT ! !

    This stadium has killed off our football silverware chances !!!
    just to line the pockets of the rich and stupid ..

  64. DeeOzGooner

    ethan

    you talkin kax mate…tell me how we wud stay competitive with manure, chelski & pool…theyre all cashed up!…

    wud u prefer we were owned by a dirty kazak/yank and then be hounded the way chelski fans are hounded abt abrom’bitch??…or wud u prefer our club riddled with debt where if we dont win something then we risk going under…or wud u prefer to have owners that cant stand to be in the same room as each other and where the local police advise u not to go to a match as the fans my revolt, like what happend at pool yesterday???

    i know what id prefer…a club with a shiny/classy new stadium, where our financial future is secure and allows us to progress with morals and standards that no other club can boast abt!!!

    trophies will come…its frustrating i know…but theyll come

  65. El Tel

    Totally confused, wtf is happening to us ARSENAL fans. We are being told lies again. AW is right to say we must keep this team together but if he really thought none of them want to go then why say this. Mass unrest behind the scenes with players as confused as us. Listen to this fact. In Theos first season we had a striker crisis, there was really only one striker fit and that was Theo. Guess who played up front Freddie. Yes he got the odd goal but it wasn’t as many as most believed. So a midfielder gets in before our new striker. The situation is almost the same now. Until recently Theo has been way down the list, yes he hasn’t yet lived up to the hype. However in the very few games he has played CF he has looked class. What bollocks it is to play him on the wing. Ade and Theo down the middle maybe could have won us the Prem. Instead we got Ade alone and getting wrongly slaughtered by some so called Gooners and Alex John Jensen Hleb playing in the hole. The worst thing is that AW plays a keeper who really is worth 10 points per season to our opponents. He plays almost the whole team out of position and Cesc will be physically fucked by the time Barca or Madrid sign him, just like TH14 and Paddy V were. How about the AFC curse for players who leave isn’t a curse at all but the fact that AWflogged them to death. Getting back to tactics, who do we confuse ourselves or the opposition ? In my opinion apart from the invincibles under AW reign we have done marvellous. Why, because I think we have always played with at least one useless twat in our team. For all the TH14s we had there was always a Jeffers. For all the Paddy V’s there was always a Grimandi. For all the DB10′s there was a Aladiere. For all the TA’s there was a Stepanovs. Thats why AW says this is the best squad he has ever had because even fucking Eboue is technically better than Luzhny. To top it all for all the Fabregas’s we have an Almunia. Lets score 2 to win a game. Oops our opponents scored first, lets throw on all our forwards together to recover the match. AW preaches mental toughness all the time. We are mental for taking it in. Good night all Up the Gunners.

  66. El Tel

    Supported ARSENAL for Forty plus years and we have always always been tight and sold the jewels. 71 we win the double and by 73 the team was split up. We lost great players over the years like. George, McLintock, Kennedy, Brady, Stapleton,Andy Cole,Anelka, Overmars, Petit, and plenty more (getting tired) Henry, DB10 and Paddy V owed us nothing as they gave many years service. What annoys me is we win cups in most decades which is fantastic for our children and our childrens children but we never go on to totally dominate like Liverpool 18 fucking years and the Mancscum (Prem years). We have always been bigger than them going back to the 30′s and coming from this countrys capital. That is why we are hated so much. They are all jealous of our status. WE ARE THE ARSENAL AND WE ARE THE BEST.

  67. DeeOzGooner

    man we paid 11.2 for hleb and he’s given us one decent season…and now he’s gona be off…this is why wenger does not splurge on players!!!

    cant blame him for being so tight really!

  68. Ethan_gunner

    DeeOzGooner

    i think you talking bollocks
    your way doesnt work !!
    plain and simple ..
    no trophies .. no player loyalty as players use our club as a stepping stone ..
    and if someone rich owned us .. He- they .. will have the money to push us forward
    no stagnate like we are doing now…
    there is a reason the other 3 top clubs have foreign owners ..
    because its the way forward .. !!!!

    and once your precious board has completed there plans to reap the money from the highbury project they will be off mate !!! and we will win FA for another 2 years waiting for it to happen !

    Arsenal will be taken over take my word for it .. its only time !!
    everyone has there price and you are just spurting out rubbish that every AKB fan has
    been saying for the past year .. what good is a shiney new stadium when we play a U21 reserve team who cant compete!

  69. DeeOzGooner

    if you think of our club as a stepping stone then your the fool!…name one player that has used it as a stepping stone a prosperred?…

    its you thinkin that our club is at a lower level than the rest that has created your misery abt the arsenal

    dont think your a gooner anyway…just on here to mix it up…go back to the blogs of the team u support, or arent your fellow supporters smart enuf to make a website?

  70. Ollie

    Mate, doyou really want a foreign owner? Look at the other clubs
    Man U – In piles of debt, will take ages to pay off meaning a few seasons down the track they will have a major dip, and the longer they put it off, the more stufed they become.
    Chelsea – Buys players for fun, then fires the manager, and replaces him with a guy with next to no qualifications! Add to that they are facing a major player revolt along with the clearout, they are going to be stuffed.
    Liverpool – Had a shocking start to the season, and the period now is a calm before a major storm. If you think one owher is bad, Imagine being owned by 2 people who hate each others guts?
    So, to be honest, we havnt got any other option, as much as we hate it. look how close we came to winning this season. As hard as it is right now we need to believe that we can pull out of it, no matter how long. Theo, vela, ect arent that far off from being top flight players on a regular basis, and dont forget that jack wilshere kid. all we need to do is reinforce each position, and we will be fine, and i think we arent too ar off. Lets wait untill next season – see what he (Wenger) pulls out of the bag. Im not saying that Arsene Knows or anything, but without a belief in the squad to win then we might a well give in and support the Chavs and Spurs. We might as well become mindless gits like them.
    Do you get my point?

  71. Ethan_gunner

    DeeOzGooner

    Just fuck off yourself you faggot ! Your a fuckin stupid aussie nazi cunt !
    what the fuck do you know about football ?

    As for stepping stones .. TH14 ANELKA HLEB FLAMINI your a fucking brainless cunt
    ! all left to get more money or more fame .. I dont give a fuck whether they got it or not !
    they left because arsenal wasnt BIG enough for them !!

    And why the fuck do you give a shit who owns it you stupid aussie cunt ??
    You go support the spuds or someone who WILL NEVER be taken over !
    Because you need to change with the TIMES ! I support dein ! YES !

    Shame you dont have the fucking brains to see it ! you cock munching nancy boy faggot !

    Ollie ..

    It dont matter son , if you think that it wont happen , then keep dreaming ..
    DD didnt sell his shares to the russian to create RED and FUCKING WHITE for nothing ! Or krankie to buy close to 24 % for fun ..
    You dont have to be in piles of debt .. And do you think that these assholes
    we have currently have done anything other than hike up ticket prices and gave you 2nd rate personnel to watch ???
    Arsenal will be sold .. you all need to go back to the dinosaur days if you think times aint changing ! if it dont happen this season . it will definitely happen the season after,
    and its screamingly apparent DD was right all along !

    and deeoz gooner your a fucking fake ass arsene knows best loving cunt !

  72. Pedro

    Calm down guys!

    This is a blog of harmony… if you are itching for a new blog, it will be here soon…

    No slagging each other!

  73. Ethan_gunner

    ollie

    do you think chelsea will be fucked ?
    drogba and lamps might leave , even ballack
    but then they will buy villa – ronaldinho and will have the other chumps we’ve been dreaming of the past couple of weeks .. Because they dont have any stupid salary caps and over 30 age rules.. Current management hasnt got a fucking clue … they are raping the fans of money and not putting anything back into the team ,they would rather fill it with POTENTIAL , that sooner or later will leave , because we keep underachieving ..
    Or over achieving if your a nazi AKB lover !!!

    Man U and chevski will never go bust because they have a global branding system designed to get them out of debt .. ‘They win things’ fans flock to them like blind DeeOzGooner’s … If your winners , your grinners !

    Our club is being mis managed and sooner or later people will realize it !!!
    Im sure 3 seasons of nothing is enough for most of you to realize that we are slipping away !! like dein said .. failure to compete !!

  74. Ethan_gunner

    well pedro

    if you have dogs barking at your heels , your gonna get served !
    as for DeeOzGooner telling me to support another club it sounds very AKB for me !
    people like him cant handle it .. and i sure as hell wont put up with him telling me to support the chev’s ! he can royally go fuck himself blue !

  75. Odub

    What the fuck’s going on?!! it’s not even 9 yet and you lot are having a barny already!! Calm down chaps!!!

  76. Ethan_gunner

    odub

    Im open to the idea of a take over yes .. Im with dein on that one ..
    what i do object to is being told to go support chelsea by a fucking australian wanker ! ..

    Go support your AFL crap .. you like to put OZ gooner in your name ..
    just shows me you aint a true EPL fan .. Do you see me put ETHAN OZ gooner in my name ?
    i lived in that hot hole for 20 years .. or maybe i should call myself ETHANTHAI gooner ..
    go support the west coat beagles , or the sydney ducks ..
    IM BRITISH AND PROUD OF IT !!
    if you can tell me to support chelsea i sure as hell will tell you to support your AFL bollocks that doesn’t even have coverage on any REAL cable company !!

    boy im pissed !

  77. Geoff

    Ethan, calm down son! I told him we don’t allow it, he’ll go and think about it now, I’m sure he’s sorry.

    New post go and enjoy.

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