Three players have suddenly become linked to Arsenal, two of them, Diego Capel a young Spanish winger who would fit in well and is tricky and Zapata who is a good solid center back and would be a great addition, also they are both the age that Wenger favours but for once it wouldn’t bother me, Senderos is not good enough and we don’t have a right winger.
Huntelaar ha been linked with us since he scored the first goal at the Grove at Dennis Bergkamp’s testimonial, I wouldn’t have him though, he is not quick like Theo and scoring in Holland is no guarantee of scoring in England. Talking of Dennis Bergkamp, he is taking his coaching badge at Arsenal and I think that could mean he’s being groomed, also his advice may not be a bad thing.
Cesc has said he needs to start winning trophies or…. so I see that as a good thing, a wake up call if you will.
I won’t talk about Sunday’s game yet as I’m still hurting from last night, I’ll leave that until tomorrow.
Record day’s commenting yesterday Grovers 428 and counting, which I think is cracking and some great stuff on there as well, which makes the fact that when we say something like ‘Arsene has got it wrong’ or ‘we’re really pissed off at winning no trophies’ why do we get so many nutters on saying we’re glory hunters, or we should support Chelsea.
Well when I say so many, I mean about 6 out of 428 so if I let them on that would have been 434. Pedro likes to give them a chance and we had a couple of odd ones on yesterday, heck we even had a boy named Sue!
If I see anyone that’s about to abuse any of you, they don’t even get a look in and their crap goes straight to trash, I don’t even see them anymore, so apologies for the few that actually got through, they won’t again.
And for those that do, don’t bother, they don’t even get read, so in effect they are talking to themselves, which in itself is no bad thing.
Can you imagine a real Arsenal fan being happy with this season and no silverware, I have a theory, I don’t think they are real fans, I think they’re spuds pretending to be gooners, or other blogs, I know two of them are, that’s a fact.
Having said that we also get a bunch of regulars that write other blogs and they are great guys and of course welcome.
So the next few months will be full of speculation about signings, I hope if he does, he does it before Euro 2008 otherwise we’ll never buy anyone. Tomorrow we talk ManU.
Have another fun day Grovers.
April 10, 2008 at 9:21 am
Yes Odub, I think we do. Ethan I think he should have!
April 10, 2008 at 9:28 am
I really love Le Grove. It has added much to my day, and a big thank you to all.
Having thought about yesterdays posts, most refer to offensive signings, whereas it seems obvious that the problem lies in the defence. We desperately need defensive co-ordination. As was said yesterday, since Sol left we have been leaking stupid goals, which ultimately has caused our downfall.
Bring in TA and Keown, or even better … and I really mean this…. the man himself… George Graham
April 10, 2008 at 9:29 am
the for le champ
April 10, 2008 at 9:30 am
i mean theo
April 10, 2008 at 9:31 am
Am I going mad or has Geoff replied to Odub before he has actually said anything.
Wasn’t a boy named Sue Jonny Cash Geoff?
April 10, 2008 at 9:32 am
Morning all,
Diego Capel looks a very good player, very quick, good feet & can score. If Vela gets his passport though I don’t see it happening as Sevilla don’t particularly like us & they are very hard to deal with (I heard those exact words from a director at Arsenal, not about Capel & Vela just about Sevilla).
The fact is Wenger should already be lining up transfers especially if we don’t beat Man utd as then our season is completely over. He should be getting deals done whilst some of our rivals are tied up with the CL & league campaigns. I know the players can’t actually arrive until the summer but the deals can be struck now. The players we would go for don’t play for the bigger clubs anyway so there shouldn’t be a problem. Even Ferguson signed Nani & Anderson a year early to stop others getting them this summer.
April 10, 2008 at 9:34 am
huh ?
anyhow thats a god amm scary picture of eboue ! thank god its only 1 inch by 1 inch on my screen .. or it might scare the children away
April 10, 2008 at 9:34 am
It was Steve and we did have a Sue on yesterday so I assumed it was a boy. I replied to Odub’s comment on yesterdays post, that he did this morning, Ethan’s too.
April 10, 2008 at 9:35 am
GMR, David Dein was attacked by fans and needed a police escort to get to the airport in Seville after he negotiated terms for Reyes.
Ironically he needed a police escort away from Highbury when we all realised we had signed the only pikey in europe that wasn’t up for a scrap.
April 10, 2008 at 9:36 am
Sorry Geoff, I thought the misery had gotten the better (or worse) of you.
April 10, 2008 at 9:36 am
Big Raddy
i think we need another for sure .. a big CD !
but can you see le boss not going with sagna -toure-gallas-clichy ??
not to use a famous arsene knows best phrase .. but they pick themselves .
April 10, 2008 at 9:39 am
morning,
now i think we can all agree eboue and gilberto and lehmann and senderos needs to go and perhaps bendtner arsenal have always needed a strong centre bck and i think zapata is the answer capel on the other hand would be a great addition his pace skills everythin about him to me makes me think he wood b a great for arsenal perhaps like an overmars or somin i must say somin else theres another player arsenal keep getting linked to its diego from werder bremen and i think if gilberto goes or flamini he would b a great addition
April 10, 2008 at 9:39 am
geoff i think sue is a girl ..
or at least a man.. girl ! she a yank i think ..
i remember her telling her little story which i largely forget .. Zzzzzzzzz..
she frequents ACLF.. and has an arsene knows best badge so does GFL.
April 10, 2008 at 9:41 am
Steve, I still think Reyes could have been a great player for us if it hadn’t been for Henry’s arrogance. Reyes was young when he arrived & it was clear that Henry didn’t like him from the moment he stepped onto the pitch against Man City for his debut. The after match interview with Henry said it all, I think it was because Reyes had come in & taken his friend Wiltord’s place at the club.
How annoying was it to see Man Utd outplay a decent Roma side last night with some of their best players not even on the pitch. Rooney, Ronaldo & Vidic all out the starting 11 & Man Utd were still a class or two above. It showed the difference between them & us!!
April 10, 2008 at 9:41 am
Chelsae signed Alex when they had Carvalho and Treyy ( for me the best in the EPL) and MU signed Vidic. L’pool signed Aggers, who is a tremendous player and some other chap I can’t spell.
But my point is not really about personnel, it is about decent coaching !
April 10, 2008 at 9:42 am
oops.. Terry (what an unpleasant human being, and captain of England - Bobby Moore must be turning in his grave)
April 10, 2008 at 9:48 am
GMR…. SFA has said this is his best ever squad and who could disagree. I have said before that MU are a fantastic side but the other bloggers gave me some abuse.
I think MU will take the title they deserve because they are the best team in the EPL. It doesn’t make me less of a gooner. I want us to be as good - no, better - than them. And we are not far off.
April 10, 2008 at 9:49 am
I really don’t believe anything at the moment, what we want is signings for a centreback, midfield(unless we want Cesc to be palying every game next season-no rest) and strikers - and not be too harsh but we need a clearout of our current squad - a few only please. Bring back out Mexicans and let see how good they are.
April 10, 2008 at 9:50 am
Morning(again) all!!!
Big Raddy, 2nd your first comment, best blog around, and makes my otherwise dreary work day goquicker!
Cheers all.
Agree with the post, we need a personnel change across the team, and diego capel (although a diving twat) would be a good addition, and Zapata is a big lump.
Does anyone know if Keown stil does our defensive trainning btw?
April 10, 2008 at 9:51 am
diego capel is a left winger not right as your article states. jesus navas is right.
April 10, 2008 at 9:51 am
Must agree with Big Raddy. Wenger has never been any good at buying central defenders, the only decent ones he’s ever signed were Campbell & Gallas both of whom he didn’t pay for. The others are either youngsters he finds or players he converts. It seems Wenger pays so little attention to that department which is usually our downfall. Its no coincidence our CL final run happened with Keown coaching at the club, but I don’t think Wenger would have actually liked Keown’s safety first approach. He wants the players to play the ball even in the tightest of spaces whereas Keown would tell them to hoof it out & re-organise.
April 10, 2008 at 9:51 am
We need Benzema, Wenger please spend the money and buy Benzema. I doubt Capel after what happen with Reyes
April 10, 2008 at 9:52 am
yes it is shit not wining anything im from ireland and have season ticket so it costs a small fortune to watch the team but the decisions in recent weeks are hard to take maybe the odd one but i count birmingham 2(the free kick was dodgy too) boro 2 chelski 1 liverpool 3 in 3 games that is eight in 6 weeks if utd get 2 a season the ref is banned from doing there games its hard to take imagine england getting them decisions v holland (say) in world cup quarter finals envolving kuyt and babel i think the reporting would be a bit diffrent and the ref(s) would be in hidding from the tabliods
April 10, 2008 at 9:55 am
big raddy
fair comment .. and i actually agree !
envy is what i call it !
I envy them having a big enough squad littered with quality . AND EXPERIENCE !
They did bail out of the C.C quickly .. obviously a trophy red nose has no time for !
It even shows that the best clubs dont favor winning everything !
I s’pose my point is if they even do it what REALISTIC chance do we have ?
(of competing on all fronts currently and not letting the title race suffer ?!)
April 10, 2008 at 9:56 am
Big Raddy, I’m in complete agreement with you!! Man Utd are playing some great stuff but are also playing winning football. They have a tremendous squad of players, I don’t think Ferguson will be making many signings this summer, he will probably just replace anyone that leaves as thats all he has to do. His best players are all young like ours & his defenders are all in their peak. I absolutely detest saying it because I hate man utd & ferguson but I actually enjoy watching their games & they do deserve the title.
April 10, 2008 at 9:59 am
So if we all agree who the hell was giving you a hard time for suggesting it?!!
They managed to beat the 2nd best team in serie a without their star player and top defender. Give credit where it’s due red nose has put together a top squad.
They’re still a bunch of cnuts though!
April 10, 2008 at 10:00 am
Unfortunately I just dont see it happening….Maybe we need to sign a petition or something. Over the years wenger has had the same signing philosophy, he wont bring anyone in who will immediately go into the line up (his whole 6 month settling in period)…or hamper the development of his 2nd team, so even if he sells Senderos, he will have faith in the crocked Djerou (unless he gets sold too), so the next CB will be young and talented (maybe even a giant) but he will be behind Djerou. We have Vela coming back who can play on both wings, so he might end up selling eboue ( we can only pray), but then he will believe Vela and Walcott can play on the wings (behind Hleb and Rosicky). Unless a doctor says Rosicky and RvP and Eduardo can never play again, he is unlikely to even strengthen there positions. He would rather wait for them to be fit, but we have seen from this season how bad a decision that was. And unless he sells one of his front 4, he aint going to be buying a striker….
A feel depressed reading the above, because I think it will be true
April 10, 2008 at 10:01 am
Morning all!
Nice post this morning! That is true what you say, only a spurs fan would be content with a trophyless season!
Who is going to win on Sunday? Has anyone heard anything regarding the Flamster injury?
Did anyone see Brady walk out of the interview yesterday?
April 10, 2008 at 10:01 am
proper cunts odub,
morning all good post this morning, papers are alive with arsenal talk, a lot of dead wood is to be cleared, we shall see.
if man u win the CL does that mean he will retire and fuck off for good, that has to be a silver lining to that possibility
April 10, 2008 at 10:02 am
any thought on Lilian Thuram joining Galas in defence……………maybe just for a year??
April 10, 2008 at 10:02 am
what’s the point in having a blog but not allow people on who disagree with you??
for the record, just becasue i defend arsene wenger does mean i am happy with the season. yes there have been some highs (milan away) but the fact we started so stunningly well makes it all the more upsetting to leave the serason empty handed. so just because i don’t blame wenger doesn’t mean i’m not absolutely gutted cos i am.
all i was saying yesterday was that we shouyld get behind the boys for the remaindfer of the season and see what arsene does in the summer. this all reminds me of what happened at utd in 2005 when they’d gone a couple years without winning the title. peoiple blamed fergie but now look at them. I just have a feeling we are on to somethign really special down at the emirates, and with the addition of 3 world class players we’ll start winning trophies again. rememeber we are really blesses to support such a wonderful team and have enjoyed far more highs than most fans out there. yes it has been 3 seasons now but it had to happen at some point, lets hope this is the end now and next season will be MASSIVE for us!!
April 10, 2008 at 10:02 am
yeah pedro, it is suppose to be on news now from yesterday i didnt see it but it was all over the radio sports shows yeterday (all one of them)
April 10, 2008 at 10:03 am
I’ll leave MU for totmorrow.
There is no chance we will sign Benzema. Real Madrid is my bet. Though it would be great !!
Huntelaar… one has to ask why no big club has signed him up to now.
A left winger _ I know nothing about Diego - would be great. Though Ade/NB would have to learn to stay in the middle, and not drift out to the wings. However, I am sure AW will try Vela before signing a big name.
April 10, 2008 at 10:05 am
I guess you meant content Pedro?
Contempt is the emotion in which. we all hold Spurs fans.
April 10, 2008 at 10:07 am
Good spot steve!
Huntelaar is going on 25 now? That is quite old for a dutch player to still be playing for his club?
April 10, 2008 at 10:07 am
i fuckin knew it!!!
ferdinand will be playing on the weekend !
April 10, 2008 at 10:11 am
I thought exactly the same Pedro re Huntelaar. Despite being constantly linked to big clubs nobody has as yet taken a gamble on him. Man Yoo could have got hime when Van Horsefacedivingcunt left and chose not to. Bearing in mind when they want a player they get him.
April 10, 2008 at 10:11 am
don’t fret about it ethan, fucking hiopeless duck faced cunt.
April 10, 2008 at 10:13 am
this is good for a laugh !
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8008700/Adebayor-expects-changes-at-Arsenal
how about ade saying this ??? stay focused ? we need to STAY focused ?
fuck me when did he start ???
ade
” I am enjoying it here and a lot of players are happy here. But we have to stay focused and keep on going until the end of the season.”
April 10, 2008 at 10:17 am
ethan - I read those comments yesterday on Arsenal.com - the have faith in AW really stuck - and as for ade staying focused I wish he’d focus on another club and fuck off!!
April 10, 2008 at 10:18 am
jimbo
if you GET BEHIND the boys for the rest of the season ..
(sounds a bit queer if you ask me but..)
What message does that portray ? that we are happy with the end product this season ?
i say bring on the heckling ! make wenger aware that he needs to lift his game !
AND SEVERAL NOTCHES AT THAT !
If one of your children are naughty do you give them an ice cream ???
but it still means you love them
(havent you just heard that one before
?? )
April 10, 2008 at 10:19 am
Jimbo, we don’t care if you disagree with us, we don’t like it when you insult other bloggers, I’ve said this many times.
And we’re not too keen on the ‘Arsene knows’ brigade.
But it’s simple, if people don’t like what we Grovers do, they can go elsewhere.
We are like a big happy family.
April 10, 2008 at 10:19 am
saw this on Goodplaya:
10 bits of bad luck for Arsenal in last 11 games:
1) Adebayor tugged back as he goes to head in Walcott’s cross in dying seconds of Milan first leg. Could have been a penalty, not given.
Hleb denied clear penalty in first leg v Liverpool.
2) One, or possibly two penalties wrongly not given to Arsenal at Birmingham. Adebayor shirt pull and a foul on Hleb.
3) Penalty in same game against Clichy when he won the ball.
4) Hleb was denied a penalty at the San Siro. He received a yellow card for diving.
5) Goal wrongly ruled out against Adebayor versus Boro as pass was from Boateng
6) Aliadiere wrongly not flagged offside in build-up to Boro goal in same game.
7) For the first Chelsea goal. Replays clearly showed Didier Drogba in an offside position. Not given.
9) Cesc denied a penalty in league game v Liverpool.
10) Referee awards penalty and books Kolo for a tug on Babel’s shirt when the only possible tug was by Cesc, outside the box. No matter how many angles you look at it from, Toure did not have his hand on Babel.
In Arsenal’s favour: one dodgy corner v Boro, which once given was a corner like any of the hundreds of other ones Boro would have faced in a season. And two minutes against 10 man Boro after Mido was perhaps harshly sent-off for a high boot. Luck does not even itself out.
The other 3 teams can congratulate themselves and bathe in Arsenal’s demise, but the truth of the matter is, Arsenal have suffered horrendous bad luck in the run-in. Had Arsenal had even amount of good and bad luck, they would still be top of the premier league and in the Champions League semi final now.
April 10, 2008 at 10:19 am
well done guys on a record day -its amazing
Nearly threw up my porridge this morning when sky news Rob Curlin on sky news said Mourinho is now being considere to re[place Wenger .And the smug look on that Jabba the Hut manc supporter holmes nearly had the bowl thrown at him .Luckily Mrs mike was there otherwise !!!!!
April 10, 2008 at 10:19 am
Smiley!! I am not smiling. I meant 8 ) !!
April 10, 2008 at 10:20 am
i think the ade bashers on here are being a tad harsh. remember he wasn’t even a guaranteed first teamer last year, and if RVP had stayed fit he may not have started the majority this season. but his goals record this season is pretty impressive don’t you think? and if we hadn’t given away that ridiculous penalty on tuesday he’d be the hero again for scoring the equaliser. so i think we should lay off him
April 10, 2008 at 10:20 am
If we lose at O.T he should start Theo up front for a couple of games. We ‘aint going to win anything anyway so give the lad a chance.
April 10, 2008 at 10:20 am
Scuba and Ethan, good comment and great analogy.
April 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
geoff-fair enough but yesterday was the first day i ever posted here and don’t think i insulted anyone??
April 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
Mike Wenger is going nowhere, he’s a great manager, he just needs to spend that’s all, bring in some quality and some wingers that are wingers.
Fuck Moanrinio, he can stay in Portugal, If Arsenal ever did that, my season ticket would not be renewed.
April 10, 2008 at 10:25 am
Karen Brady and David Sullivan both released on bail regarding charges of conspiracy to defraud and Birmingham shares suspended.
I always knew there was something iffy about that filthbag.
April 10, 2008 at 10:26 am
No Jimbo you didn’t and you’re welcome, the fact that so many of you now come on means most agree with the post, but more importantly, most bloggers are connecting with each other, and they meet up, it’s great, I wouldn’t want to change that for a few bad apples.
April 10, 2008 at 10:26 am
ethan-no it doesn’t mean we’re happy, it just gives them every chance to try and finish the season as strongly as possible. i am sure wenger is now finally aware that he needs to strengthen certain areas in the summer without us screaming for him to do so
April 10, 2008 at 10:26 am
Fully agree on both counts Geoff.
April 10, 2008 at 10:26 am
Brady didn’t walk out of the interview but he did say in a really stern voice, ” I wouldn’t have come on the programme if I had known you would show that…and make Arsene Wenger look like like John Cleese”.
he was referring to a clip Irish TV showed of our manager that made him look silly. they had cut together a bunch of short clips that likened him to the ministry of silly walks (a john cleese character). that twat Eamonn dunphy kept shouting out, ‘Look John Cleese, HaHa, John Cleese!’.
It was disrespectful and Brady stuck up for him.
April 10, 2008 at 10:26 am
Ok Jimbo, you’re posting now… so don’t worry about it!
April 10, 2008 at 10:27 am
Jimbo - impressive goal record - no; I don’t think so. Given the chances we create that is a poor return…. he can’t pass, he can’t control the ball -
Hero on Tuesday - why? because he tapped in after Theo’s run - RvP was there, he could have done that, my Mum could’ve done that. That’s the problem he’s been made a hero for doing his job and scoring some goals ….
give him the ball bollocks!! give him 10 chances the cunt will need 10 more and still won’t fucking score!!!
Not that I have an opinion on this you understand!!
April 10, 2008 at 10:28 am
of course geoff and it’s great what this site has achieved (even if i don’t neccessarily always agree with you!). i just want everyone to get behind the lads for the rest of the season and leave the player bashing to shitty clubs like spurs!
April 10, 2008 at 10:28 am
Le Champ and Le Chump have been updated.
April 10, 2008 at 10:29 am
Agreed, Adebayour was never meant to become the leading goalscorer, hell Arsenal never play with a lone front man, until this season, when injuries forced Arsenes hand. But while he has got amongst the goals this season his stats are not very impressive.
2007/8
Goals 19
Goal assist 4
Shot on target 41
Total shot 88
As you can see it takes him 4 shots per goal, which is just not good enough in my book.
April 10, 2008 at 10:30 am
scuba-but can we criticise a player for scoring a tap in, especially after most gooners in recent years have been crying out for a player who simply is there to tap the ball in?! as i say he probably wouldn’t even be our first choice striker when everyone is fit so his record is pretty impressive in my opinion
April 10, 2008 at 10:30 am
Theo, Theo!
April 10, 2008 at 10:30 am
no his goal record for the last 11 games has been big fat 0 in the EPL !
if you call over a 1000 minutes on the pitch as a striker and scoring nothing good
then i pity you ..
But i can handle that ! what i cant handle is the CONSTANT loss of possession !the offsides ..
we play a passing game , a possession game ! with him throwing a constant spanner in the
works how on gods green earth do you EVER expect to get possession in the final 3rd???
April 10, 2008 at 10:32 am
Great Le chump/champ Pedro, in fact Theo’s coming close to winning it for the season, if AW starts playing him from the start that is!!!!
Agree with your comments re people getting on and meeting up Geoff, real community feel to this blog now, and some of us have benefited from other bloggers generousity in getting the odd tickets for games. Not free of course!
April 10, 2008 at 10:34 am
ethan-do you not think thst just maybe after playing the whole season as a lone striker he’s run out of steam (like a lot of the players). no one is criticising cesc for his recent lack of form are they? the fatc is up until we threw it away 8 weeks ago he was one of the main reasons why we were 5 points clear. i understand how he can be frustration at times but 19 premiership goals is a great effort for someone who supposedly cant finish!
April 10, 2008 at 10:34 am
What those bastards charged you for the tickets Odub! I wouldn’t have.
April 10, 2008 at 10:35 am
Frichie
sorry but TH14 has been doing it since DB10 left ! i think a 4-5-1 is negative but weve been playing like that since the year we almost won the C.L .. you have to pick your game however … But HELLO ? there a thing called a transfer window ??
ever heard of it ?
in december anelka was available .. but we said NO ade’s a legend ..
pretty much like your doing now !!!
you have to love people who flog dead dogs ..
bless there little cotton socks !
April 10, 2008 at 10:37 am
ethan- i think you have summed it up perfectly there, it was arsene’s decision not to strengthen, not ade’s. so to blame him is ridiculous. his workrate is phenomenal and again i repeat his goals tally isn’t bad either!
April 10, 2008 at 10:39 am
But when we blame Wenger Jimbo, the ‘Arsene knows’ brigade call us nasty names, now you seem to be agreeing that it’s his fault!
April 10, 2008 at 10:40 am
jimbo
cesc might not be firing on all cylinders but he doesnt loose much possession
infact he wins alot of possession from next to nothing , and doesnt disrupt our passing movement like ade ! ( also RVP wasnt injured all season ! i think he scored 6 or 7 ) and dudu partnered ade MANY times … but if your saying he has been a lone striker for 33 games .. thats 3300 minutes for 19 goals ! 3 of which were penalties ! 3 were a hat trick v’s derby or sunderland .. it leaves you with 13 goals in 3000 minutes !!
yes thats class !
April 10, 2008 at 10:41 am
wrong jimbo read above ..
several times if you have too
April 10, 2008 at 10:41 am
wait who said i was part of the “arsene knows” brigade? i admit the guy can mistakes such as not strengthening in January, but i wouldn’t lay the sole blame to him for our season goijng tits up. a combination of shocking injuries, poor refereeing decisions and general bad luck has been the main reason in my opinion
April 10, 2008 at 10:44 am
ethan-ok so not the WHOLE season but the majority. but you can’t really accuse me of using bad stats when you reel off those ones-in case you’ve forgotten ade has also missed a few games here and there. but i stand by the fact he appeared knackered in recent games and this contributed to his lack of goals. bear in mind he’s been rested in recent weeks and now found his form again and you should undersatdn what i mean
April 10, 2008 at 10:45 am
and when did he score a hat trick against sunderland??
April 10, 2008 at 10:47 am
ade’s stats for this season:
premiership - 28 starts 19 goals
Total - 36 starts 25 goals
is that really something to argue with??
April 10, 2008 at 10:50 am
Jimbo we havent really had shocking injuries! The injured players were mainly players we had back up for, it was just that the back up players have been shyte!
Rosicky - Eboue!!!! All been said b4 no more needs to be said
RVP - Eudardo(good enuff but then Martin Taylor happened-cunt) - bebndtner!
Sagna - Toure/Eboue/Hoyte, none are a patch on the blond dreadlocked one.
Compare that to say the mancs whose first choice full backs havent played all season and say Chelsea who’ve missed tosspot terry, fat frank, cech,dogba, and cashley at different stages and you begin to realise the forward planning for this season has been poor, as is reflected in 2 instances.
1. Flamini - decent player I want to keep, I’ll wait till his contract almost runs out b4 I start negotiations!
2. Diarra - good player, peanut headed cnut, but hey I’ll sell him 3 months after buying him!!!
April 10, 2008 at 10:52 am
Spot on Odub, but add to the Flamini story - …just like I did with Edu!
April 10, 2008 at 10:54 am
odub-that is the point, we’ve received shocing injuries to key players and not coped without them. you all go on about chelsea and utd, but fact is we’re 3 and 6 behind respectively. we’re hardly miles off the pace are we and lets be honest, we’re much closer than ANY of us thought we’d be at the start of the season.
April 10, 2008 at 10:54 am
Our injuries haven’t been that bad…
RvP… being injured is a permanent state for him, he is the biggest luxury in the premiership. 13-15 games a season max.
Rosicky is the same, although he at least managed 30 games this year.
We haven’t really lost Ade, Cesc or Hleb for any great amount of time… and Gallas has been pretty fit this year.
Its not an excuse is it? You know that you wont play with your first 11 all year… so you should plan ahead?
He didn’t so we must move on and think about the summer!
It would make my year if we beat the Mancs on Sunday! I’d like to see Ronaldo in tears again!
April 10, 2008 at 10:55 am
geoff-edu wanted to go end of story. although he hasn’t exactly done much since he elft has he (apart from being injured)!
April 10, 2008 at 10:55 am
Jimbo, its not like we’re 6 points a drift after chasing all year… we’ve capitulated in the last 13 games!
It would be a different story if we were where we are because we were not good enough, we’re 3rd because we are knackered and our squad is to thin to rotate.
April 10, 2008 at 10:57 am
right lads-it’s been a pleasure discussing these issues-while i may not always agree i do understand your arguments and that’s what makes football great-different opinions. but really must get on with some work now!
laters all
April 10, 2008 at 11:01 am
jimbo
with a squad this shallow we will ALWAYS be injury prone !!!
look at last season as proof .. this isn’t just being unlucky !!
thats bollocks …
cant you see a pattern ?
Arsene 90% of the time plays his best squad and credit too him
,but the fallout is we use our shallow 1st 11 A LOT ! and they will always be subject to injuries from december onward .. when teams like chev’s and man’ure get there steam on to finish off the business end of the season strongly we are always scraping to get a semi decent 1st 11 to start !
enough said i think
April 10, 2008 at 11:04 am
Geoff, Bud’s always business man first, mate 2nd! which is why he charged me that much and 4 peronis for the ticket!!
jimbo, I just dont like this idea of us being happy with being 6 or 3 points behind!! We were 5 points clear more than once ffs!! that is capitulation in a big way! almost as bad as the geordies from 10 years ago!!
What we should be looking at is, ok fine not a lot was expected of us this season, but we got to the summit and should have stayed there!!
Even during the dark days in the 80s/90s no gooner I know was happy we werent competing with the manc, ‘pool villa, forest whoever, so why should we be happy with 3rd/4th now?! because we get into the CL??!! And then do what when we get there?!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:06 am
I’ll re-iterate a point many of us have made several times. We knew that the team was good enough and we knew that the squad wasn’t big enough. A couple of really decent buys last summer and a couple of good squad players in January and we’d have won the league. We’d probably be in the semi-finals of the C.L too.
April 10, 2008 at 11:13 am
This is a really good blog today but I’m up to eyes so will catch up later - sat on my arse sulking yesterday!!!
Odub - have you tried the AISA for tickets? You can join their email listing and they always (mostly) have tickets for home/away games for cost price - sold by gooners for gooners!!
I usually have the odd ticket spare at some point so will keep you in mind for nextr season…
April 10, 2008 at 11:16 am
ill add to that steve , we also could have won the C.C if we used our 2nd tier for 1 EPL game and used our starters V’s spurs ! It would of set us up to defeat a chevski team who back then had alot of players missing ..
But all the arsene knew crew , said oh we dont want to win that !!!!
we just like to use this cup as a breeding ground ?
i cant remember to many people f###### ?
April 10, 2008 at 11:17 am
Jimbo - as I have said and ethan and others - it’s his all round game - no control, can’t pass, doesn’t link up - the point about the tap in (yes, we’ve longed for someone) is that he’s scores it and that adds to his tally but it still doesn’t make him good -
okay time to own up - I just don’t fucking like him, don’t rate him and never will! We will never agree on him!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:20 am
cheers scuba i’m a red member so dont get that many tickets, even tried getting some via the ticket exchange on arsenal.com, but no luck.
ethan most fans would have taken a trip to wembley in either cup instead of ending up potless AGAIN!! look how happy yht ex gooner pompey boys were?! Who wouldnt have wanted some of that?!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:20 am
interesting concept .. that holds some water
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=558600&in_page_id=1779&ito=newsnow
April 10, 2008 at 11:32 am
scuba
If he learned to hold the ball,pass the ball,shoot and had some footballing acumen , i could let it slip that he’s going thru a bad patch .. The truth be known he’s never looked like an arsenal finesse style player and his timing for the goal slump was a HUGE reason why we have gone off the boil ! and now are behind in points
goals win games ..
scoring more than the other team wins games ..
the defense are always going to let a few in ! thats football
the object is for our strikers to score more than the opposing team !!
i heard a rumor that senderos is going along with jens and gilberto + flamini ..
well thats a start ..
April 10, 2008 at 11:33 am
Ethan Gunner and co
Re more english players: Interesting, and could hold some merit, but who is there available?
April 10, 2008 at 11:36 am
Oh, by the way, harsh, but very true
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=558507&in_page_id=1779
Love the pic of walcotts run!
April 10, 2008 at 11:37 am
ethan-fair enough and as i said everyone has an opinion and their right to it. but just quickly, you mention it’s up to the strikers, but surely scoring two goals at anfield should have been enough on tuesday? it was the defence that let us down on that occassion, as they did at birmingham when the collapse began. the attackers did their job, unfortunately the defence did not
April 10, 2008 at 11:38 am
I think we need a quick right footed goalscroing left winger. A Marc Overmars type player would be perfect. I would love Robinho but I cannot see him leaving Madrid or his wages being within our structure.
I don’t actually think we need another striker. Unless Bendtner moves on.
Adebayor
Van Persie
Eduardo
Walcott
Bendtner
Vela
are all fighting for only two places. I would perhaps bring in a youngish striker who can come in if need be but is also patient enough to wait for the future. A quick, play on the
shoulder type of forward.
We could do with another center half but who would make way?
April 10, 2008 at 11:38 am
ollie
odub can help you out there !
he can bang out a list without holding a sweat !
aston villas striker . for 1 !
sounds too much like my nemisis’s name for me to repeat !
i think he would get good service from our midfield ! ( and more importantly not waste it !)
April 10, 2008 at 11:38 am
Ollie i have my list handy
David Wheater
Ashley Young
nedum Onuoha
Adam Johnson
Gabriel Agbonlahor
micah Richards??
mark Noble
Any of those would do nicely thank you!!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:39 am
ethan .. you are quoting Ade from an interview .. apparently and according to the independent, he also said that “Sunday will be another big game for us” .. and then he goes on to say ” It determines whether we still have something to play for or whether we can go on holiday”.
Now, as far as I am concerned, that must be the most stupid quote coming from the most stupid forward who ever played for Arsenal.
He can go on fukking hols now if he wants to .. what a fukking disrespect for us the fans .. yet, we are not allowed to boo our players at the emirates .. even if they consider themselves on hols .. this guy is a braindead loser
April 10, 2008 at 11:39 am
ethan that’s just fucking scary!! just saw your post!!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:41 am
Ollie that pic of theo running past Hyppia and Macherano, looks like some fucking miniature superhero in action!!! Class!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:43 am
Hi honeys, i’m home !!!!!!!!!!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:44 am
alo Gallas was quoted this morning s saying that the team had overachieved!!
considering that the same Gallas said in january that he believed the squad did not need any further strengtening ..
is he a complete idiot as well??
are all our players some fukking mental retards??
April 10, 2008 at 11:45 am
Cheers odub! Ablonghor and Micah Richards Please! What? you have to pay more than $5 mil for them? fine, ill send a scout to Finland instead!
Seriously though, they would all be good buys. Also, we need a safety net, incase Vela misfires. I doubt it will, but he might take some time re adjusting.
Oh, and if that rumour about senderos is true, we definitely need to buy some defenders. Senderos was guilty midweek, but he can and will perform, hopefully sooner rather than later.
April 10, 2008 at 11:45 am
Look what the cat dragged in…. part time bud…
April 10, 2008 at 11:46 am
Jimbo - just read your post reply to ethan re attack/defence - I was at the brum game and we should have scored 4 or 5 goals - if brum get a late pen it should make no difference - that game should have finished 4 - 2 to us at the very least.
Again it was the forwards mainly ade not taking the chances created!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:47 am
BB -
gallas, eboue and ade are - but then they are top of my get the fuck out of Arsenal list!!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:48 am
Couldn’t bring myself to even read the blog yesterday, let alone comment. Spent the day doing that wierd thing called work…….. strangely satisfying as it goes !!!!!
Anyway, everything is Wengers fault. Arsenal, the economy, the fact my chicken caserole last night was horrible……… everything…….. I am honestly starting to get the early signs of detestation (is that a word? if its not, it should be I like it…….. much like ‘boobtastic’, that too is a good word to describe nice jubblies….. but I digress !!!!!)
ANyway, I don’t hate him, but he has the summer to buy back my affections or that bitch is dumped !!!!!!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:48 am
scuba .. Ade not passing the ball blatantly to Bendtner who was free as Ade was on his ego trip trying to beat Wrighty’s record in scoring in god knows how many games in succession
the replays showed very clearly Ade raising his head and looking across the box where he must have seen the Dane
he therefater denied that he knew where Nik was .. a fukking selfish liar
April 10, 2008 at 11:49 am
I was saying to Pedro yesterday about a couple of English players and was wondering how many games Parlour played in the invincibles team
As for the Arsene knows.. I pay 60 quid for the privilage of buying the most expensive tickets in the UK.. for that I expect a squad that should win trophies. not every year but be there and there abouts. Another year without anything and you will start to see spaces in the stadium.
April 10, 2008 at 11:49 am
Well look who decided to make an appearance, Mr ‘I’m too big to blog himself!!’
how/where you been big man?!!
BB, most of them tend to talk out of their backsides most of the time. Listen to some of them like Cesc,Theo and maybe Kolo and you get sense, the rest, whether lost in translation or not, come up with some bizzare tripe especially Gallas!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:49 am
scuba-they scored two goals, and were playing against a relegation threatened team who had 10 men. you telling me the defence isn’t capable of not leeting in two goals against that?? people on here keep reffering to utd and chelsea on here but look at what they’re good at-NOT CONCEDING. we all know we can score, that is not the problem, the problem has been toure underperforming since acn, senderos not being good enough, and sagna getting injured.
April 10, 2008 at 11:50 am
BB - no more need to be said!!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:51 am
AN steve-no club has a divine right to win trophies-just look at our scummy neighbours down the road!
April 10, 2008 at 11:52 am
Damn straight Steve!
I’d like to see Agbonlahor in an arsenal shirt… maybe even Ashley ‘Gooner’ Young!
A bit of british never hurt did it?
An Steve, was it you who said about Lescott?
He’d have to be a good shout!
April 10, 2008 at 11:52 am
jimbo
think about all the other games that ade hasnt scored in recently..
there are more of them than the 2 you listed !
plus one of the 2 you listed was a C.L game not EPL …
I never hold any great faith that we will win the C.L !
lets face it .. every round you get thru in that competition is a bonus !
too much talent for even barca to say they have it in the bag !
April 10, 2008 at 11:52 am
I have missed you Odub, it weren’t easy at first, but then I put my cock in a vice and the pain took away any thoughts of anything else….. total memory loss……. the crushed penis pain though was considerably easier to take than what Arsenal had given me !!!!!!!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:52 am
We have no divine right to win trophies Jimbo… but we have a divine right to have a squad big enough to compete, right?
April 10, 2008 at 11:53 am
please dont get me started on the Ade should have passed to Bendtner debate!!
Square the ball Ade, we go 3-1 up, season could have turned out different!
Let’s not do this to ourselves again guys!
April 10, 2008 at 11:53 am
Jimbo, what makes you think Wenger has learnt his lesson & will strengthen in the summer?? It’s the sort of comment all Arsene’s fans make without anything to back it up!!
We haven’t won a decent trophy for 4 years now & he hasn’t strengthened in that time (I’m talking quality players of which he has signed probably 2) & as you’ve already pointed out this season with the rubbish squad we have could actually be classed as a success (not to us fans but to anyone who bought into Wenger’s vision of going 6-10 years without winning anything just so one year he can win a trophy with kids before selling them off for huge amounts & starting again). So assuming he like his followers sees it as a success then why would he buy players?? Infact his comments already have led most of us to know that he won’t be buying much this summer, he’s more interested in keeping the Lehmann’s & Eboue’s of our squad happy!!
April 10, 2008 at 11:54 am
ethan-we clearly will not agree on ade so i think we should agree to disagree!
April 10, 2008 at 11:56 am
GMR- nothign to back it up? are you kidding me? have you not seen his record whilke being arsenal manager? i get the impression from wenger that he just felt after the likes of diaby,theo,hoyte,traore etc performed so maginificently in the CC last year he felt like he owed it to them to give them the chance they probably deserved this season. unfortunately it has not worked out and this is why i believe wenger will go and strengthen in the summer. can you really deny that these players at leats deserved an opportunity to prove themsleves in the EPL? if not then what is the pooint of having a reserve team?
April 10, 2008 at 11:57 am
jimbo - first brum was a good free-kick - not sure it should’ve been given but it was and they scored. 2nd goal was a pen - again should it have been given; doesn’t matter it was.
I take and agree with the point about our defence overall but we’re (well I was) talking about ade not being good enough - if we had taken our chances against brum (and others) the fact that they scored twice doesn’t matter.
I know this argument works both ways but when we’re playing total football shouldn’t we be scoring 3, 4, 5 or even 6 goals against relegation teams??
April 10, 2008 at 11:57 am
Bud…., I dont like you mentioning me and your cock in the same post!!! i dont want to be that close with anyone!!!
Lescott is a good shout pedro, we never used to buy english because they’re too expensive, but surely none of those listed would cost more than 10-15mill?!!
Ive got a feeling our transfer record will need to be broken this summer.
April 10, 2008 at 11:58 am
You do appear to have strange passtimes Bud.
April 10, 2008 at 11:59 am
scuba-i do understand your point but looking at the table we have the 2nd best scoring record, yet the 4th best defensive record, joint with everton!i think that shows where we need strengthening!
April 10, 2008 at 11:59 am
can some ppl pls say our starting line up with subs next year with vela and some other guys you think tht will comemine would be
A GOOD GK
clichy gallas toure sagna
vela flamini fab walcott
VILLA VP
April 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm
It was not a passtime Stevo, its just the pain, I love it, I must do, I support the Arsenal !!!!!!!
April 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I might be wrong but I dont think Vela will get straight in next season, he’s done ok for Osasuna, but he gets subbed most games, and is still only 19.
let’s not build our hopes up re this kid is what I’m trying to say!
April 10, 2008 at 12:02 pm
jimbo
i think you can say man U are pretty good at scoring also !
theres a player called ronaldo …
heard of him ?
they are the bench mark .. they can defend and can score !
they can grind a result thru experience ..
we are not stating them ‘in admiration’ !!!..
Envy is more the word of choice !
call a spade a spade !
And in order to win things .. (which i thought football was all about ?!)
we need to pass them ! for quality .. depth .. and consistency !
until then we will hear excuse after excuse after excuse !
April 10, 2008 at 12:03 pm
agreed odub. i would imagine the starting 11 will be the same as this season. i mean lets face it, when they were all fit we were firing and awesome. it’s the reserves that need strengthening with a centre half, a left winger and possibly anoither striker
April 10, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Jimbo, did you misread my comment because I asked what proof you have to back-up your comment that Wenger has learnt his lesson & will strengthen this summer?? As I pointed out we haven’t won a decent trophy for 4 years now & in that time he hasn’t felt the need to strengthen so what proof do you have that this summer will be any different, especially considering the comments he has already made over the past 2-3 weeks??
April 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
This is just PATHETIC
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/04/10/Champs-Lg-Ref-on-Babel-pen/
At a time when players are being forced to show respect to the Ref by not questioning their decisions, this untC comes out and says the Arsenal players didnt complain cos they knew it was a penalty…
April 10, 2008 at 12:05 pm
jimbo - you might have picked up on the fact that I don’t have much time for gallas either - and don’t start me on his cryfuckingbaby antics at brum -
yes, we need to sort the defence out for sure - it all boils down to what everyone has been saying for the last season or so - our squad is not good enough, not strong enough, not deep enough - and who’s responsibility is that? AW, pure and simple.
We’re all agreed - even the FAKB have admitted (through gritted teeth) that we need to sign quality experienced players….
April 10, 2008 at 12:05 pm
GMR-must have misread-i thought you meant what proof do i have that wenger will get it right.
anyway, i don’t have any proof of course i don’t. but as i said until the summer comes we will not know so to start having a go now is a bit premature. fair enough criticise for the lack of transfers last summer but to criticise for this summer before it’s begun? ridiuclous
April 10, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Jimbo I have never said a divine right but an expectation that is backed up by a squad
As a fan which I have been since 1969!!!! my expectations have been raised by Wenger who has been fantastic. However the money you have to pay no and the amount the players are paid I do now expect, more than the 80’s and this season Wenger has got it wrong he need edto strengthen and did not. any way thats going over old ground.
April 10, 2008 at 12:07 pm
scuba i agree it is arsene’s responsibility to ensure we have a deep and strong squad. but as i just mentioned, i beleieve he felt he owed it to the “CC 11″ to give them a go. it didn;’t work so hopefully he’ll buy big this summer
April 10, 2008 at 12:07 pm
never liked the look of that ref from kick off!!
April 10, 2008 at 12:08 pm
AN steve-that’s fair enough mate and we do all expect. but at least we have had a lot of success in recent years. can you imagine being a spud fan?!
April 10, 2008 at 12:10 pm
obud
i agree there RE: vela .. 19 and will need time to settle !
he’s 2 or 3 years off being a regular in my opinion 22 -23
he’s a theo of last season ! if you want me to use an example.
jimbo..
not a problem ! agree to disagree .. but i think one day youll come around…
April 10, 2008 at 12:13 pm
ethan
there’s me Odub and there’s Bud, not Obud, easy mistake to make, but if you ever saw either one of us you’d know there’s a teeny weeny difference!!
April 10, 2008 at 12:13 pm
i got a statement that will make you laugh !
(2 or 3 years ago )
A.Wenger
we are NOT in a transitional period !!!
that still cracks me up !
April 10, 2008 at 12:13 pm
etahn-lets just hope for arsenal’s sake you’re the one who comes around!!!
April 10, 2008 at 12:14 pm
AN Steve - spot on mate; AW raised the bar and then failed to clear it - he will sort it in the summer or else he’ll have to go!
jimbo - we’re singing from the same hymn sheet in different ways - maybe different songs - we agree on the “he has to buy”
be a spud fan? I’d rather put my cock in a vice!!
April 10, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Jimbo, its not ridiculous because its the same as last year, the year before & so on. If he had come out & said I will strengthen the squad this summer then fair play you can give him that chance, but when he comes out & says “My priority is to keep this squad together & the solution is not always to buy”, then thats just not good enough (they weren’t the exact words he used but very close to it).
Don’t forget he doesn’t have a DOF, he’ll go on a short holiday then he’ll be commentating for French tv on the euro’s (he won’t sign anyone playing there because he doesn’t buy based on performances in international tournaments, or so he says), then after that pre season training will start (again he won’t sign players then because he likes to concentrate on the fitness of his squad, his words again), so when exactly will he have the time to sign the amount of players we need??
April 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm
GMR-can you not see the logic in saying”My priority is to keep the squad together”?? at the time he said that we were still challenging in CL and prem so if he came out and said “i need to strengthen” it would hardly have installed much belief in the current squad would it?? once january passed he had to make sure the current players felt they were equipped to do the job (even if they weren’t) so as not to completely wreck confidence levels.
as for previous seasons, yes last year he didn;t buy, but in recent years he has spent big on helb, rosicky, ade, reyes, sagna, eduardo so there is a chance he’ll buy again
April 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Scubagooner cock in a vice now thats sound like somthing bud would like!!!
April 10, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I know things haven’t been great of late, but can we all stop talking about putting our cocks in vices.
That’s you Bud. See what happens when you return?
The MPC have just cut rates by another 1/4 so that should cheer those of you with trackers up.
April 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm
The tone drops by 25% the second he logs back on!! shocking!!
Steve any truth in the rumour that they might drop rates by 1% before the end of the year?
April 10, 2008 at 12:24 pm
ha ha ha big difference between bud and odub and i never meet either of them!
there is zero chance of vela hitting teh ground runnin when he comes its not AW way i hope he does,
April 10, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Jimbo, are you Arsene Wenger? you defend everything he does, let’s talk forwards and why we need one.
Robin, will be injured most of the season, cruciate ligaments in Europe probably, Bendtner 3 years off being ready, Theo ready now, Vela unproven and too young, Ade not great but okay, and Eduardo not back until Christmas and then could still take a year, if ever.
Lescott we could have got from Wolves for £5mil, we thought he was too expensive, Young we could have got from Watford but now they would cost a fortune, same with the City kids, they don’t need the money anymore.
Finally Jimbo, Edu was shunned by Wenger because he came back late from Brazil, but still had a year on his contract, Wenger barely played him, he was one of the best miidfield players in Europe but Wenger didn’t talk to him, the only time he tried to get him to stay was around the FA Cup final, by then it was too late.
Like Flamini we kept a key player without making him sign in his final year, that is bad business, we could have sold him and got something, but he went on a free.
It’s irrelevant what’s happened since, we didn’t know he’d get injured.
April 10, 2008 at 12:27 pm
so being new to the site who on here is a season ticket holder? and where do you all sit? i’m east lower turnstile H block 14 lower tier. lovely seat but i think they all are??
April 10, 2008 at 12:31 pm
geoff-have you not read my posts today? i have openly criticsed wenger and have said numerous times he should’ve bought. so not sure why you’ve randomly just decided to have a go at me, especially as i’ve not been rude to anyone on here and said i accept there opinions.
as for flamini, you telling me he was a key player when he entered his last year of his contract last June?? no course he wasn’t. it’s only been this year (after wenger convinced him to stay may i add), that he’s started to show his true quality. and wenger and the board have been trying to tie him down ever since.
April 10, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Jimbo, i have the best seat of them all. Its called loungeroom, 65000 miles from nowhere in pitch black darkness when they can be bothered televising decent football. in other words im an aussie..
April 10, 2008 at 12:33 pm
geoff-finally are you really criticising wengers business sense? have you seen the amounts we’ve sold players for after buying them for nowt?? and how about selling the now injury prone henry and vieira for 13 and 16 mil respectively-wasn;t the worst bit of busines in the world! so he got it wrong with edu and should have sold him earlier but we cant use that to criticise his business dealings
April 10, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Odub, we are at 5% after today and have pretty much 1/2 priced in by year end. Can’t see them going much under 4.5%. B.O.E’s remit is inflation and too many cuts could see that going well over target. The problem is now that even when the MPC cut rates it doesn’t filter through to the mortgage lenders because they’re still paying well over libor because of the credit crunch.
April 10, 2008 at 12:37 pm
jimbo, you’re right near me. Block J 17 row 11 in east lower. You’re just right of the halfway line I guess?
April 10, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Jimbo, you’re sounding like a typical ‘Arsene Knows’ fan. He doesn’t say my priority is to keep the squad together as a moral booster for the players, he says it because he means it. He has said the same thing for at least the previous two summers & he keeps to his word unless he gets a decent offer for a player he’s willing to sell. Infact with how comfortable some of our starting 11 are with their places in the team, saying something like new players are needed for competition in several positions might actually have given them the kick up the arse they needed.
If its ridiculous to pre judge what Wenger might do in the summer then what you’re actually saying is that he can never be sacked, because it’s impossible to say what he’ll achieve the following year, you have to pre judge based on his words now & his actions for the past few years.
Lets face it if I didn’t pre judge & Wenger didn’t sign anyone decent, then next season if I had come out & criticised it would be someone like yourself who’d come along & say “Its easy to complain now with hindsight”, so what you’re actually trying to say is that nobody should ever have an opinion & that Wenger should have free reign to do whatever he likes for an indefinate period of time??