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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://le-grove.co.uk/2008/03/23/give-flamini-a-signing-on-fee-and-keep-it-quiet/comment-page-1/#comment-10523</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay todays post is up, don&#039;t bother blogging is you&#039;re an Arsene know person, you won&#039;t be welcome.</description>
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		<title>By: Bud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C*nt fuck bollocks c*nting fucking ball-hang fuck c*nt fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck....................... that feels a little better........ anyway, going to play squash now and going to imagine that little ball to be Terry&#039;s head and pulverise that little fucking c*nt of a ball into the wall, time and time again, as hard as I can till that little ball splits open and then I am going to put it under the wheels of my heavy 4x4 and run the c*nt over whilst imagining it to be Cunthead Cole&#039;s head - should help continue my rehabilitation process !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C*nt fuck bollocks c*nting fucking ball-hang fuck c*nt fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. that feels a little better&#8230;&#8230;.. anyway, going to play squash now and going to imagine that little ball to be Terry&#8217;s head and pulverise that little fucking c*nt of a ball into the wall, time and time again, as hard as I can till that little ball splits open and then I am going to put it under the wheels of my heavy 4&#215;4 and run the c*nt over whilst imagining it to be Cunthead Cole&#8217;s head &#8211; should help continue my rehabilitation process !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: nucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>nucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid the pundits have been proved right about the lack of depth in our squad. We have burnt out and have run out of ideas because of it too. I wouldn&#039;t normally criticise individuals for underperforming in the odd game but once again I think too much patience is shown to the wrong player&#039;s. Just as cygan, the beast, etc., 

ADEYBEYOR. I didn&#039;t want to be proved right because I know he has so much potential. 
He breaks up our quick, direct passing far too often. He fails to spot the runs of our midfielders. This happens all the time. Fabregas will split the defence to Ade, someone will be busting a gut, half a yard in front of the last defender and Ade will not see that run. Instead he will turn his back on goal and slip a &#039;david batty&#039; like pass sideways or backwards. It&#039;s so difficult to watch a player like Fabregas make a pass that only a  handfull of players in the world can see, only for it to be wasted. Imagine Henry on some of his passes this season. He needs to be told or sold!
EBOUE. Please help me god to find the strength to say something positive about a player who keeps theo from finding his feet. I&#039;m afraid the negatives are too many to bother listing. It just makes me angry thinking about him as a player.
CENTRAL DEFENCE. How can we have two of the best left back and right backs in the entire world and look so vulnerable? Simple, Toure and Gallas! Kolo has lost form since Gallas arrived. Our best partnership for whatever reason in spells this year was Senderos Gallas. Poor Phil started to finally convince me this season when Kolo was away. However, I think we need 2 experienced new centre backs.

I have criticism of our formation aswell. Although we have Clichy and Sagna, they will never be able to impact a game for sustained periods in attacking play.  I believe this is the fundamental difference between us and utd. Compare the two teams wide midfielders for a moment.  Hleb, Rosicky, or Eboue.  Ronaldo, Nani ? Does anybody else spot it? We have in Rosicky and Hleb, two world class cental midfielders. Why play them as wingers? How can we be coming to the end of a season and still not have seen the pace of Walcott stretching defences? When Fergie has a surplus of similar midfield players he sells them.  Tells them no, your not good enough to play at this club. Players don&#039;t leave utd. to play for bigger clubs because to be honest where would they go?  Fergie sells players as soon as they are not needed. They don&#039;t leave him in the lurch. You don&#039;t read about his players having ice cream with representatives of other clubs.  We need stronger leadership from the top. I&#039;m not talking about a change of manager because there is no one else I want taking this club forward.  I&#039;m talking about a change in Management style. It&#039;s time to get tougher on these players. We are simply not good enough and it&#039;s time to change!!

We&#039;re on our way, we&#039;re on our way, we&#039;re going to Moscow......................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid the pundits have been proved right about the lack of depth in our squad. We have burnt out and have run out of ideas because of it too. I wouldn&#8217;t normally criticise individuals for underperforming in the odd game but once again I think too much patience is shown to the wrong player&#8217;s. Just as cygan, the beast, etc., </p>
<p>ADEYBEYOR. I didn&#8217;t want to be proved right because I know he has so much potential.<br />
He breaks up our quick, direct passing far too often. He fails to spot the runs of our midfielders. This happens all the time. Fabregas will split the defence to Ade, someone will be busting a gut, half a yard in front of the last defender and Ade will not see that run. Instead he will turn his back on goal and slip a &#8216;david batty&#8217; like pass sideways or backwards. It&#8217;s so difficult to watch a player like Fabregas make a pass that only a  handfull of players in the world can see, only for it to be wasted. Imagine Henry on some of his passes this season. He needs to be told or sold!<br />
EBOUE. Please help me god to find the strength to say something positive about a player who keeps theo from finding his feet. I&#8217;m afraid the negatives are too many to bother listing. It just makes me angry thinking about him as a player.<br />
CENTRAL DEFENCE. How can we have two of the best left back and right backs in the entire world and look so vulnerable? Simple, Toure and Gallas! Kolo has lost form since Gallas arrived. Our best partnership for whatever reason in spells this year was Senderos Gallas. Poor Phil started to finally convince me this season when Kolo was away. However, I think we need 2 experienced new centre backs.</p>
<p>I have criticism of our formation aswell. Although we have Clichy and Sagna, they will never be able to impact a game for sustained periods in attacking play.  I believe this is the fundamental difference between us and utd. Compare the two teams wide midfielders for a moment.  Hleb, Rosicky, or Eboue.  Ronaldo, Nani ? Does anybody else spot it? We have in Rosicky and Hleb, two world class cental midfielders. Why play them as wingers? How can we be coming to the end of a season and still not have seen the pace of Walcott stretching defences? When Fergie has a surplus of similar midfield players he sells them.  Tells them no, your not good enough to play at this club. Players don&#8217;t leave utd. to play for bigger clubs because to be honest where would they go?  Fergie sells players as soon as they are not needed. They don&#8217;t leave him in the lurch. You don&#8217;t read about his players having ice cream with representatives of other clubs.  We need stronger leadership from the top. I&#8217;m not talking about a change of manager because there is no one else I want taking this club forward.  I&#8217;m talking about a change in Management style. It&#8217;s time to get tougher on these players. We are simply not good enough and it&#8217;s time to change!!</p>
<p>We&#8217;re on our way, we&#8217;re on our way, we&#8217;re going to Moscow&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will post in a hour, I still feel numb.</description>
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		<title>By: mustafa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>morning all still fucked off , just watched the goals again , can&#039;t belive that lucky cunt ugly drogba ball just fell to him , i would like to shake his hand at the end of dover cliffs then ! push the cunt off - that way he will never score against us again , second goal was cheap cheap cheap! how many years have we been crying out for a CB - dont worry stepanos is comming back for £1 at the end of the season , senderos deserves to start and may be theo , but hey! chins up we have bolton next! - we must give our all for the chapions leauge now and tell that tight french git SPEND SOME MONEY -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morning all still fucked off , just watched the goals again , can&#8217;t belive that lucky cunt ugly drogba ball just fell to him , i would like to shake his hand at the end of dover cliffs then ! push the cunt off &#8211; that way he will never score against us again , second goal was cheap cheap cheap! how many years have we been crying out for a CB &#8211; dont worry stepanos is comming back for £1 at the end of the season , senderos deserves to start and may be theo , but hey! chins up we have bolton next! &#8211; we must give our all for the chapions leauge now and tell that tight french git SPEND SOME MONEY -</p>
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		<title>By: Just Stick It In !</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Stick It In !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn that didn&#039;t go off as we planned did it?

an offside goal &amp; toure sticking out his pansy leg for the second.

senderos &amp; theo starting would&#039;ve been appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn that didn&#8217;t go off as we planned did it?</p>
<p>an offside goal &amp; toure sticking out his pansy leg for the second.</p>
<p>senderos &amp; theo starting would&#8217;ve been appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://le-grove.co.uk/2008/03/23/give-flamini-a-signing-on-fee-and-keep-it-quiet/comment-page-1/#comment-10513</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im so fed up of losing this fucking big games because they bring on world class superstars and we bring on Diaby and Nikki, i cant stand fucking Wenger anymore saying that were going to &#039;&#039;build on the future and not going to spend any money to ensure this talent is amazing in 10 years......am i the only Arsenal fan that is fed up with fuckin Eboue running into players and not having a left foot?? hes fucking usless i&#039;d rather have old Pascal C on the wing...im so fed up of  these &#039;&#039;Grand Slam Sundays&#039;&#039; and losing or drawing, how comes we dont win 3-0 like Man Utd......why cant be fucking win a big game for once......how bad is it that Wenger had fucked the league because of his shitty ways of &#039;&#039;they&#039;ll be good next season&#039;&#039; .......i dont sit in the pub (or go to it when i get the chance) to watch us loose 2-1 to Middlesborough or draw 2-2 to Brimingham.....were to good for that shit, we should be beating the shitters....especially the chavs....Wenger needs to get out of his old fucking ways and sign a player over the age of 19 and someone we&#039;ve heard of SHIT maybe i wanna buy a new home shirt next season with a player like Robihno on the back rather than some shitter like Cygan on the back......im sorry Grovers to have a pissed moan but im fed up with Wenger.!!!

See i know im going to get the &#039;&#039;Arsene Knows&#039;&#039; tossers but at the end of the day.....i want to win something, IM NOT A WEST HAM FAN THATS HAPPY WITH 10TH PLACE, IM A GOONER.......im just a simpleton but please wake up and smell the dead fried shit....were in trouble.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im so fed up of losing this fucking big games because they bring on world class superstars and we bring on Diaby and Nikki, i cant stand fucking Wenger anymore saying that were going to &#8221;build on the future and not going to spend any money to ensure this talent is amazing in 10 years&#8230;&#8230;am i the only Arsenal fan that is fed up with fuckin Eboue running into players and not having a left foot?? hes fucking usless i&#8217;d rather have old Pascal C on the wing&#8230;im so fed up of  these &#8221;Grand Slam Sundays&#8221; and losing or drawing, how comes we dont win 3-0 like Man Utd&#8230;&#8230;why cant be fucking win a big game for once&#8230;&#8230;how bad is it that Wenger had fucked the league because of his shitty ways of &#8221;they&#8217;ll be good next season&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;.i dont sit in the pub (or go to it when i get the chance) to watch us loose 2-1 to Middlesborough or draw 2-2 to Brimingham&#8230;..were to good for that shit, we should be beating the shitters&#8230;.especially the chavs&#8230;.Wenger needs to get out of his old fucking ways and sign a player over the age of 19 and someone we&#8217;ve heard of SHIT maybe i wanna buy a new home shirt next season with a player like Robihno on the back rather than some shitter like Cygan on the back&#8230;&#8230;im sorry Grovers to have a pissed moan but im fed up with Wenger.!!!</p>
<p>See i know im going to get the &#8221;Arsene Knows&#8221; tossers but at the end of the day&#8230;..i want to win something, IM NOT A WEST HAM FAN THATS HAPPY WITH 10TH PLACE, IM A GOONER&#8230;&#8230;.im just a simpleton but please wake up and smell the dead fried shit&#8230;.were in trouble&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mustafa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am fucked off , wacthing us get defeated to them cunts lucky pricks , but they can bring on class we can bring on cunts , asley cole i want to lock him in a room with 6 demented gay russians we played well but not good enough , them 4 draws have knocked the stuffing out of us , i blame wenger the buck stops with him for not beefing up our squad he took a big gamble we are shit up front ades got 2 left feet , and bentner is shit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am fucked off , wacthing us get defeated to them cunts lucky pricks , but they can bring on class we can bring on cunts , asley cole i want to lock him in a room with 6 demented gay russians we played well but not good enough , them 4 draws have knocked the stuffing out of us , i blame wenger the buck stops with him for not beefing up our squad he took a big gamble we are shit up front ades got 2 left feet , and bentner is shit</p>
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		<title>By: mustafa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tell that cunt endleman to stop talking about that £70 million pot of cash , we need to win a trophy quickly - it could be time for a change</description>
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		<title>By: Guv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dare I say it but surely questions have to be asked about Wenger? Four years since their last title in terms of physical stature and power Vieria and Campbell have not been replaced in their respective position. Wenger has decided to take another route, but the bottom line is the current set-up, whilst great to watch when they are allowed to play, still lack a real presence to land a premiership over 38 games. Playing great football alone will NEVER EVER will a Premier League, has Wenger suddenly forgotten this?
Power play and long balls that were not properly defended all day were the root cause of defeat today. Oh for a proper centre half who actually knows how to head a ball or actually make a worthwhile attempt to win the ball in the air?
Remember the Bridge last year? 1 up, Essien rifles in admittedly a great strike, and they Chelsea swarmed all over us, Lampard hit the post, and in the end we were fortunate to hold on for a point. Virtual replica today, absolutely no answer in attempting to ward off a physically superior side. In effect we&#039;ve learnt nothing in a year of how to deal with a one dimensional outfit who rely on long balls to Drogba and then fight like mad to win the second ball with runners from midfield joining up to assist. 
Its one thing not winning the league from being five points clear in Feb, quite another to not at least keep the battle running until the later stages of April.
Bolton next, no guesses for what Arsenal can expect there, but lessons are hardly being learnt are they, based on what occurred at the Bridge today…

 I think there is a tendency to believe Wenger is untouchable, why should he not be immune to criticism?
His squad as ever lacks depth, and bear in mind the last two games have been played (outside of Rosicky for Eboue) with a first choice eleven. There was a time when you looked at our bench and changes could be made that would influence the outcome of the game, this in comparison to United and Chelsea is not the case now, and I&#039;m sorry finances can no longer be used as an excuse. Wenger&#039;s choice so any criticism that comes his way is deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dare I say it but surely questions have to be asked about Wenger? Four years since their last title in terms of physical stature and power Vieria and Campbell have not been replaced in their respective position. Wenger has decided to take another route, but the bottom line is the current set-up, whilst great to watch when they are allowed to play, still lack a real presence to land a premiership over 38 games. Playing great football alone will NEVER EVER will a Premier League, has Wenger suddenly forgotten this?<br />
Power play and long balls that were not properly defended all day were the root cause of defeat today. Oh for a proper centre half who actually knows how to head a ball or actually make a worthwhile attempt to win the ball in the air?<br />
Remember the Bridge last year? 1 up, Essien rifles in admittedly a great strike, and they Chelsea swarmed all over us, Lampard hit the post, and in the end we were fortunate to hold on for a point. Virtual replica today, absolutely no answer in attempting to ward off a physically superior side. In effect we&#8217;ve learnt nothing in a year of how to deal with a one dimensional outfit who rely on long balls to Drogba and then fight like mad to win the second ball with runners from midfield joining up to assist.<br />
Its one thing not winning the league from being five points clear in Feb, quite another to not at least keep the battle running until the later stages of April.<br />
Bolton next, no guesses for what Arsenal can expect there, but lessons are hardly being learnt are they, based on what occurred at the Bridge today…</p>
<p> I think there is a tendency to believe Wenger is untouchable, why should he not be immune to criticism?<br />
His squad as ever lacks depth, and bear in mind the last two games have been played (outside of Rosicky for Eboue) with a first choice eleven. There was a time when you looked at our bench and changes could be made that would influence the outcome of the game, this in comparison to United and Chelsea is not the case now, and I&#8217;m sorry finances can no longer be used as an excuse. Wenger&#8217;s choice so any criticism that comes his way is deserved.</p>
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