They told the Frenchman his crazy antics after Saturday’s game at Birmingham were ‘not the behaviour of a captain’. Or so says the Mirror, but I hope they did say it, as it was needed.
Vela is the man Wenger sees as Eduardo’s replacement, which is fine if he plays out wide, but I think we need a striker, and we have all season, someone to finish off these teams we have been dominating.
In fact only four times all season have we been ‘proper’ beaten, that’s Middlesbrough, Seville, the Spuds and ManU, and each time we fielded a much weakened side, so I see no reason we can’t kick on and go and win what’s left.
Stop the arguing, pass to the player in the position to score and finish teams off early doors.
We have a good team coming to the Grove this weekend, but one we should in all honesty see off with ease, get back to pinging the ball around and stop banging hopeless balls up to the big guys.
Keep the ball on the floor and we’ll get back on track.
On a lighter and more positive note we had a Mr Angry on yesterday offering to either sell or rent out his club level season tickets, 3 together at the back, they are great seats and in site of me and Pedro so for all of you who can’t get to the Grove on a regular basis, there’s an opportunity to get, at cost, your chance.
Being in Club level you get to throw prawn sandwiches, drink Dom Perignon all day, not turn up for the second half and stay in the bar after the match, so fill your boots, there’s a long waiting list.
Email Pedro, he has that covered.
Kaka is doing his usual ‘I’m injured’ so expect to see him playing at the San Siro.
We may have Rosicky back for the villa game and Diaby and Song won’t be far behind, Robin only started training this week and Wenger wants him to play a few games for the stiffs, so he won’t be back for a couple of weeks.
I really hope the Flamster signs a new contract, but in football, who knows?
I’m sure we can still sign loaners mid season, so is there anyone out there you would like? Adriano maybe, he’s available? Just a talking point and not a recommendation, but any thoughts?
Have a great day fellow Grovers.
February 27, 2008 at 9:26 am
I know there not the most reliable source but The Star and the Independent reckon that Wenger fears the Flamsters already agreed a deal to join Juventus…if he fucks off we need a decent midfielder…..Van Der Vaarts looking quality for Hamburg and £10 million aint a bad price and hes only 24….Vela scored twice at the weekend though and i think he set one up so he would be a good shout for a winger
February 27, 2008 at 9:27 am
trying to catch some hits with the unfounded “Adriano comin?”-rumour, eh?
February 27, 2008 at 9:31 am
Vela is Dudu’s replacement in Wenger’s eyes?
How does that work out when he’s at Osasuna til the end of the season!
February 27, 2008 at 9:34 am
Is the angry bloke going to sit with us mere mortals now then or has he become too angry to attend THOF?
Fuck Adriano, too fat.
Gallas deserved a bollocking for being a petulant child.
Flamster knows he is in a fantastic bargaining position as he can pocket a hefty transfer fee if he moves. The club should offer him ‘normal’ wages and a big fat signing on fee as they did with Sol Campbell. Trust me, it’d cost more to replace the little terrier.
If Rosicky is back i’d like to see Theo start up front with Adebayor-or-or. You know my views on Ade and Bendtner being too similar to play together.
It’s the last Saturday 3p.m game at the Grove forever this week, so i’m starting early and getting semi-cunted.
Have I covered everything?
Good post by the way.
February 27, 2008 at 9:37 am
Last time I checked, Dudu was out for longer than the end of the season! I think the blogger means next year!
Van Der Vaart isn’t the same type of Midfielder, we need a robust running man if the Flamster leaves. I think he will as well, its not looking good if you haven’t signed a contract by March.
That will really set us back, I can’t think of anyone good enough to replace him anywhere? Anderson is the only player I can think of who is similar at the moment?
I think the Gallas story is fabricated as well, but he looks like he needs a reality check sometimes.
There was a link on another site for Agbonlahor? He is a good player, and a proper winger!
February 27, 2008 at 9:38 am
Simon, read the post, it says Adriano? it’s a question, if I was after hits, it worked as you posted a comment, so thanks.
Steve any thoughts on a loaner?
February 27, 2008 at 9:45 am
Lads im hoping for a RVP on the bench for the Milan game, not sure on what reserves/practice games are set up before then, but i see this article….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/02/27/sfnmil127.xml
February 27, 2008 at 9:47 am
I have never been a fan of loan signings Geoff. You never feel they are a part of the club and if any club willing to loan a player now, it generally means they aren’t good enough to get into their own team. I never took to Baptista last year for that reason. It’s a viable option for teams in the shit, but we’re not going to bring anyone in now better than we already have. What about you? You think it’s feasible?
We have Walnutt, Robin and Bentdner to play there and also have the option of Hleb or Rosicky behind Ade. Wnger won’t want to upset the balance at this stage of the season by bringing someone in that’s likely to take 6 months to adapt.
February 27, 2008 at 9:48 am
I hope you’re right Evo, boy we need him!
February 27, 2008 at 9:50 am
Diarra would have been available to loan before Christmas, I’m wondering if there is a player Wenger has in mind for next term and if a the team that owns that player knows they can make money out of that player, maybe they could loan him to us.
It’s a bit of a fantasy Steve but we are a bit thin on the ground.
February 27, 2008 at 9:52 am
Always optimistic, i just remember RVP’s cameo in his return earlier in the season, he was on fire!
Still think we are good enough to win next Wednesday morning (my time)!
The 58″ Samsung High Def Plasma TV arrived on Tuesday morning, so im pumped for the run home to the double!
February 27, 2008 at 10:01 am
Easier said than done for RVP to play ‘a few games’ for the stiffs as you say as there are only three reserve games in the next month on March 10, 19 and 25. We want him playing before that don’t we?
As for Flamini then - yes he’s done very well this year but when all said and done he is still just a hustler and does not create things - there are plenty who can fill his boots. £50k a week is excessive for him - thats 20 of those club level season tickets for just one weeks wages and 1040 club tickets for one years wages.
God, when I think about it I hope I am not in one of the seats being used to pay Gilberto’s wages!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 10:09 am
It appears that there is general agreement that Gallas was out of line and behaved “uncaptainly”.
I therefore post the question of what the expectations are towards a good captain. Leading the team by example? Being motivated and invested in the outcome of games? Doing what he can to improve his teammates while creating e feeling of unity?
Probably all of the above.
But there is also the element of humanity. Gallas is emotional and more invested in the team than most players.
While we cannot fault Flamini’s efforts or Hleb’s talent, it appears to me that the one that takes the losses the hardest is Gallas. Flamini mind you is yet to come out and commit to anything. It appears to me as if he is using this campaign to raise his stock. Should he stay with Arsenal, I will continue to support the lad as he has a great attitude on the pitch, but please why can we not expect some commitment from these players. This is Pires, Wiltord, Henry all over. Each season the same will he, won’t he? I am sick of it.
But the point is, all things considered, I am baffled as to exactly how Gallas reacted in an uncaptainly way. He was shattered (as I think we all were) at events that were at best enfuriating. Following the week that he had supporting Sagna, I cannot believe that we latch out at him for showing a perfectly understandable human reaction.
Are we really that into the mindnumbing stupidity of automatons like Ashley Cole and other pro footballers whose behaviour and comments make Anna Nicloe Smith sound like Salman Rushdie? Really, what are our values and priorities here. I have to tell you but my lie completely with mr. Gallas and not McLeish, Taylor or even Flamini.
Football is not played by robots even though some of them appear that way. And, I have to tell you all but it is this human side of integrity and belief in right and wrong that has me shouting Arsenal each week. The way I see it, Arsenal is the only team I can think of that does not buy into the ends justifies the means mentality. Just like like, often the outcome is irrelevant, because it was your choices along the way that defined your character and your soul.
Sorry for losing track of the original post, which was, as always, well written and argumented for. Even though I disagree with its main sentiment.
To all at Le Grove, a happy wednesday and let’s get back to business on saturday. 2-1 me thinks. As far as a loaner, I fear it is speculation which will never materialse as Wenger would rather shift around the team rather than take anyone from the outside for a short period. Mostly he may revert back to the 4-5-1 or try to get Walcott and Bendtner more involved.
February 27, 2008 at 10:11 am
Morning all,
we’ve started early I see, and not a cunt in sight!!
we need RVP back asap, and I’m hoping AW has told him he’s needed now, so get your finger out son!
Vela looked the bollox over the weekend, didnt realise how big he is as well!! He scored a very good goal against Athletico Madrid, and i get the feeling he’ll be straight in next season.
Hope the Flamster does sign on, but I am getting sick and tired of these players that have 1 or 2 good seasons and suddenly get linked with some European super club. Watch Adebayor is the next one!
February 27, 2008 at 10:19 am
Any chance we could get Titi on loan???
I wouldn’t grumble having the great man back for the remainder of the season, give him a proper send off.
Back in reality, adriano is just Baptista mark II….won’t do it for the Arse. We need a loaner from a prem team otherwise the foreign player will take time to settle. I think we should DEMAND Cameron Jerome or Olivier Kapo from Birmingham until the end of the season. We have lent/sold so many players to that dirty little club….Larson, Muamba, Bendtner, Pennant, Upson….sure there are more. Now they should have to give us a striker thanks to their idiot defender.
I don’t think Gallas has anything to be sorry for. I am fully behind him, he is a human being and he was so strong with the other players when the Eduardo incident happened, he remained calm and talked to his team mates, when Ade and Bendtner had their much publicised set to, it was WG10 who stepped between them and pulled it apart and admonished them both. When Bac’s brother tragically died, Gallas sat with his friend, consoled him and acted like a surrogate brother to our young right back. He is a phenomenal captain and that he exploded with passion having seen a frustrating and distressing week and game end with a poor decision by both Clichy and the referee after working so hard to earn three points is something that we as arsenal fans should applaud not scorn. I can’t imagine Gilberto doing it, but I could imagine TH14 doing it….If that was Henry would everyone have hammered him like that. In fact i am fairly sure Henry has done very similar before.
Finally I hope Flamini stays and continues his development. Has he learnt nothing from the experience of others leaving the Arsenal? The grass is never greener. I heard we have a buy-back clause in the Diarra contract? Just a thought if Flam does wander off the Italy. I think Diarra is Makelele waiting to happen and could do a huge job at the club.
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February 27, 2008 at 10:22 am
The Mirror story on Gallas is bollox.It has taken them 4 days to make it up.Where are the direct quotes from other players.Dont print a story to hurt Arsenal unless it is the truth and names the players involved.Why is the story not in any other paper?
February 27, 2008 at 10:23 am
Agree with Gus and Odub there, but to Gus first, I think the problem we have with Gallas is he almost left the pitch and he should have been there to urge his keeper on, not stomping off up the other end, a bit petulant as opposed to Adams like, that’s all.
Odub you’re right, why do we get the ‘I haven’t signed yet’ shit every year, don’t they get enough?
February 27, 2008 at 10:24 am
Gus J, that was a great argument and I suppose it is refreshing for us to see a player show that type of passion, genuine passion for his club.
I still can’t help but think he vented his frustrations in the incorrect way. By airing his views on the pitch, he invited the criticism he received. Was it to show the fans he was upset? Or was it to make a sulky point?
We will probably never know. People who criticise his captaincy this year are wrong in my eyes, because he has led admirably compared to Saint Thierry. So its probably time to lay off him.
I also agree with you about Flamini. He owes us that contract. How many substandard performances have we had to put up with to get him to this stage? Lots.
Odub, couldn’t agree more. Adebayor is going to be big time amounts of trouble every summer for the next few years. He was trying to stir up rumours last year about ManU, even after having a shite season!
Arsene needs to put a stop to things like this happening, you never get it at Liverpool, Chelsea or Manu do you?
We have to make sure we don’t become the most elite feeder club in Europe.
February 27, 2008 at 10:24 am
Morning Odub!
I really like Flamini, but for some reason i dont have that anxiety in my stomach about a player resigning coming to the off season, like i did with Vieira and Henry for all those years!
I would not want to have the hindsight of telling myself i told myself so, if he went and signed with someone else and became huge! So for that i say, lets get his signature again! I know Wenger is trying, but most of the time the distractions of the title run get in the way!
February 27, 2008 at 10:30 am
Couldnt agree more with the Gallas situation Geoff. I wouldnt go as far as those 2 cunts Richard Keys and David Platt and call his reaction daft though!
Gallas could have reacted after the game ended!! You dont go all the way down the other end in a strop!! Suppossing every Arsenal player did the same?! Who the fuck would have got to the rebound had Almuunia saved the pen? I don’t buy all this ‘he was upset ‘and showing passion crap, any player, captain or not should have at least tried to motivate the keeper to make a save and then see what happens!
I’d like to see how many of you kick the fucking wall in your office when a project doesnt go to plan, and go back to still have a job in the morning!
February 27, 2008 at 10:32 am
maybe if we won the CL, or started paying £100,000 a week they’d shut up and just stay where they are the greedy cunts!
Or are we asking for too much to think a foreign player would stay loyal to our club?
February 27, 2008 at 10:34 am
I’m back and for one reason………… some sensible and reasoned arguments for the Pro-Gallas team !
As I got fucked off trying to say earlier in the week, emotive times, passion and he takes anything against Arsenal personally, and he snapped……… Great to see he is that passionate about us, he is truly a Gooner and he showed it, he has the passion of a fan, rightly or wrongly, but he showed how much he cared…… and that for me is worth bundles !!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 10:41 am
I personally expect the captain to lead by example. If all the other players had followed his example Birmingham would have been awarded 3 points because we didn’t have 8 players on the pitch. Put it down to emotion if you like, i put it down to petulance and childishness. How would Clichy have felt after making a mistake, let alone watching his captain behave like that?
I have a great deal or respect for Gallas. Sometimes he needs to check his attitude though. It’s the same as when he was slagging players off in the media. Have a word in their ear behing closed doors. Do it in front of the other players and the manager if you really have a problem with them. Don’t wash your dirty linen in public as it makes your competitors aware of your skidmarks.
Put it this way, would you look upon in as signs of the pressure telling if John Terry (cunt) or Gary Neville (ugly cunt) done that?
February 27, 2008 at 10:42 am
I think i’m about to get roasted by Bud.
February 27, 2008 at 10:44 am
Bud/Dave, no one here is slating Gallas, just saying his reaciton could have been kept in check a bit. Other parts of the media on the other hand are suggesting he be stripped of his captaincy, which I’m sure no one on here as suggested!!
February 27, 2008 at 10:45 am
Don’t worry, like I said before, its Walcott time! He will be our striker at the end of the season!. I hope he will show what he can do and try to force his way into the first team.
February 27, 2008 at 10:48 am
don’t say that Steve, that’s what Micah Richards did!
February 27, 2008 at 10:55 am
I did not have sexual relations with Micah Richards !!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 10:59 am
can anyone post any Vela links for his recent goals?
February 27, 2008 at 11:00 am
lol, the screws of the world has photographic evidence Bud. You’re just about to give him a pearl necklace by the looks of it.
February 27, 2008 at 11:05 am
I’m leaving Le-Grove again, I cannot continue on such a Vulgar Website !!!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:09 am
Odub what the fuck? Didn’t Ashley, Pennant and Bentley show similar amount of commitment? Actually far less. Why would you mention them as foreigners as though that’s even relevant….?
Personally I don’t understand what’s so difficult about signing a contract. It always takes player like 6 months of fussing about before they sign on the dotted line. I know they all want as good a deal as possible but seriously if he wants to stay at Arsenal and Arsenal want to keep him can he not just sign today? He might not get an extra 5k like if he waited but is it so important when players get payed way more than they deserve anyway?
I’m completely behind Gallas. When you’re that bothered by the result it’s easier said than done to just keep calm and quiet. I bet half the people there (or perhaps if Eduardo hadn’t had his leg broken) would have been no better on the pitch. This instance was a one off for Christ’s sake. Also what are the chances that he could have helped anyway? Him encouraging the keeper won’t help. Almunia’s a great penalty stopper but if he chooses to go the wrong way it doesn’t matter how much encouragement you get. The actual chances of Almunia saving it AND the ball being pushed back into the danger area AND it being closest to wherever Gallas is probably close to 50/1. Yes he should still have been there but in a single incident as frustrating as this it’s not like he ever had a real chance of changing the game from there.
Hleb and Clichy, as much as I love the guys, are the two guiltiest culprits of always trying to do something clever regardless of the situation. 99% of the time it works, but when it doesn’t it can easily be a goal for the opposition. I’m not saying they should never try looking up for a great ball or taking people on around the area, but with 20 seconds left a defender MUST just hoof the ball as far away as possible if you currently have a good scoreline. Mistakes have been made by our players a few times this season that way which have led to goals (if not in the last seconds) and still players haven’t stopped trying it. If Gallas’ reaction of such anger will finally make Clichy realise he doesn’t have to do something good in that situation and next time he doesn’t dare trying it then GOOD. We haven’t learnt that well from our mistakes in the past and sometimes it takes such a big example of anger at the situation for it to finally click that enough is enough.
Of course the story about the players telling him off is shit. Wenger is probably quite glad to see such commitment from Gallas. Not only that he hasn’t, as far as I’m aware, told off Lehmann for being completely unprofessional off the field (and on the field countless times too). This was one occasion where Gallas wasn’t even anything to do with the ‘crime’, he just reacted strongly to it on this ONE occasion.
As for a loan signing. Isn’t that not possible outside of the transfer windows? Even if it was it seems unlikely to me because of the time required for some to settle in. Also your title of Adriano in? might be a question but to someone who just sees the title they are mislead to believe that there is some basis at all for why you would say that when in actual fact it’s entirely speculation which is a bit disappointing of you. That’s the exact sort of title which Tribal Football uses just to get hits and even if you didn’t mean it that way, it certainly comes across that way.
February 27, 2008 at 11:09 am
I just assumed he likes jewlerry.
February 27, 2008 at 11:10 am
Sorry Evo, I can’t find the video!
Good post today Geoff, we seem to have got off al subjects negative!
No chance of a loan this late on in the year, especially not manic depressive Adriano. He is too fat and causes too many problems!
I am with the majority on this blog, not slagging Gallas off in general, just for kicking off in public and making Arsenal look like we are about to collapse under the weight of expectation. Clichy knew what he had done was wrong, he didn’t need it rubbed in his face.
I am worried about the Flamster leaving, but if he does, we’ll get over it and he’ll probably pop a cruciate in the first month wherever he goes. He has been brilliant this season, but if he want to be known as a great player, he has to do it consistently over a few years. If he went to Juve he might make the starting 11… but they arn’t what they used to be and if he likes playing football in front of 6000 fans in the 3rd best league, its up to him?!
He wouldn’t make Madrids midfield or Barca’s…
Surely friendships and camaraderie figure somewhere in his decision?
Ryan, this site does not benefit from hits in any way. We don’t have paid for advertising. You can loan players outside the transfer window, it was a suggestion as Adriano is available.
February 27, 2008 at 11:11 am
I’m binging to worry about you Bud!! first the unbridalled rage, then the crime family meetings on the pavement on blackstock road, now the dirty secrets about giving one to Micah Richards!! Bloody hell mate!!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:12 am
**begining!!!!! Dont know where fucking binging came to it, already thinking about the Friday piss up!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:13 am
Ryan, I didn’t read all of that as I have a low attention span, but you may sign loan players outside of the window as long as they don’t contravene a current loan agreement.
February 27, 2008 at 11:13 am
Pedro - im with you on the Flamini thing, just sign it, but im not worried if he goes. He will be another player we made, but in a another team, different story…ala Edu, Wiltord, etc
February 27, 2008 at 11:14 am
If Wenger wants to avoid Real and Barca coming knocking every Summer he has to tell them seriously he won’t sell them any of his best players for anything less than 2x their actual value or that if Barca insist on getting their whole team to talkj to the papers about them they’ll simply refuse to sell them anyone out of principle.
February 27, 2008 at 11:14 am
Everyone worried about the Flamster………. good old Matty……….. well I wonder what you would all be like if Gallas was stalling on a contract, you’d all be telling us he can fuck off bla bla bla………..
Flamini is having his first good season and on the back of it, putting a gun to Arsenals head, I say……….. well I won’t go there, it seems I still have the anger !!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:15 am
What does contraviene mean?
February 27, 2008 at 11:15 am
Ryan the little symbol at the end of my sentence denotes the fact that it was a fucking question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:18 am
Evo, just for you mate!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=carlos+vela&search_type=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI7fmOQiL-M
February 27, 2008 at 11:23 am
Contraviene is the Spanish version of the word (It really is!).
Steve is bi-lingual Ryan.
February 27, 2008 at 11:23 am
Why would you say that?
You asked the question about foreign players, not players in general as though they are the ones really in question.
We’ve had a lot of loyalty from some of our best players over the last few years (if not for ever) for example besides Viera who always seemed destined to go almost all our unbeaten squad were with us for ages and were not interested in playing elsewhere until Wenger decided to sell as they were getting worse.
And Bergkamp was probably the best example of all in the last few years. In the last 5 or so years we’ve had far more commitment from our foreigners I’d say. So I don’t see why you would ask the question as though their lack of a British nationality has had any real baring on that.
February 27, 2008 at 11:23 am
Odub, remember the blood pressure mate
Bud, I still love Gallas. Just thought his reaction on Saturday was poor.
I’m not happy when my kids throw tantrums, doesn’t mean I don’t love them anymore.
Chill big man, you’re getting paranoid.
February 27, 2008 at 11:24 am
I’m not bad at German and studied Spanish for a year, but it was making me do worse in German with cross-over words like ‘es’.
February 27, 2008 at 11:25 am
I don’t think i’ve ever used the word in anger before Pedro. Fucking good guess if you ask me, at least if Cesc comes on he will understand me.
February 27, 2008 at 11:27 am
And i’m not happy about being insulted Pedro. Calling me a cunning linguist is unnacceptable.
February 27, 2008 at 11:27 am
Who said that !!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:28 am
Steve, don’t be modest!
Throwing in a Spanish word into the blog was just plain showing off!
February 27, 2008 at 11:30 am
Bollocks, educated he may well be, but that was a mistake…… after all, everone makes mistakes from time to time, even Galls & Steve !!!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:32 am
Steve i have trouble understanding English, why complicate matters even more?!!
Ryan I said maybe if we won the CL, started paying 100k a wekk they’d stay where they were..That was a general statement not aimed at English, French, japanses or Martian players.Just a statement!
I then asked on a seperate line if it was asking too much of a foreign player to stay loyal to our club! I am quite aware of the loyalty exhibited by the likes of Bergkamp and Vieira over the years, which is why it was a question which you have now so eloquently answered, so thank you me old china, and let’s move on!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:33 am
Ryan, you are bang on the money there mate, but I know where Odub is coming from.
Generally our best players are foreign… they come for a couple of years… put us through hell… have a great year… then talk about leaving for 4 years after that!
Don’t worry though, I haven’t forgotten about Cashley Cuntface!
We’ve had some disloyal players over the years, but some loyal ones the same. I think we just get sick of hearing about our players doing one ever summer and the Mancs don’t seem to get the same treatment? Nor do the Chavs or Liverpool.
Steve, the Flamster speaks Spanish as well, whats Spanish for ’sign the fucking deal Senor!’
February 27, 2008 at 11:34 am
I dont make mistakes….. I’m perfect me. I even started losing my hair on purpose, and stopped growing at 5ft 10 so i wouldnt stand out! No offence Bud!
February 27, 2008 at 11:36 am
Vamos a ganar a la liga…..Someone translate that to English!!
February 27, 2008 at 11:41 am
Well paying them ridiculous amount could solve it. My approach would just be to deny a player from thinking they cn leave unless we want to sell. That way if we say we aren’t selling Fabregas and Barca try and unsettle him into wanting to leave, even if he does want to leave we refuse to sell anyway. After a while they’d stop even bothering, It’s what Chelsea do.
Bitte, Flamini. Kannst du schnell der Vertag unterzeichnen?! Du bist unheimlich wichtig für uns.
That’s showing off
February 27, 2008 at 11:42 am
I’m late for lunch chaps. Adios amigos.
February 27, 2008 at 11:43 am
It would be great if a player who’s contract ran out joined the Bristol Downs league. Where you have to pay the club for the privelage of putting on their glorious shirt.
Luckily I avoid that problem because I retired when I was 13 or so. I didn’t want to get past my prime before giving it up. (I’m an old man of 18 now).
February 27, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Yeah you’re well old mate!!!!!
Just pisses me off that our players get linked with moves year in year out! Manure, the chavs nor the scousers have to go through this! And now apparently Inter want Diaby!!! When will it end?!!
February 27, 2008 at 12:18 pm
So what are you saying the Ryan, I should think twice about posting tomorrow?
Messi, Kaka, Ronaldo to sign on June 1, guaranteed. I heard it from Fizman.
That’s my headline.
February 27, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Thanks Odub, been a while since i looked him up!
The best thing with Vela is he’s a lefty, plays out on the wing succesfully and is fast! Bring it!
February 27, 2008 at 12:23 pm
The other headline I was thinking of Ryan was this.
Wenger says nothing about anything, Gallas says nothing and Flamini hasn’t signed yet.
I thought that would draw the crowds in, what do you think?
February 27, 2008 at 12:29 pm
He looks a quick strong player Evo! Isnt it past your bedtime by the way?!!
If you want crowds, drop a spud remark in the title!! We havent had you guys on cunt alert for a while have we?!
February 27, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Yeah 11.30pm and work tomorrow as per usual….bloody bastard! Wish i could just be in the pub all day!
Catch you later lads!
February 27, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Have a good’un Evo
February 27, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Ahh the irony of moaning at someone for a misleading headline, then posting a full page article on your thoughts!
You could be Le Grove… the place where you get fact and nothing else.
It would be a mega fucking boring blog if you did that.
No one can moan about the misleading headlines anyway, we all click them. I only get pissed off if there is no substance to the article, on here there always is which is proven by the amount of people who debate.
Anyway Geoff go easy, the guy has some good points bar that little bit at the end!
Haven’t checked the links yet? Gonna have a browse now!
February 27, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Gunnersaurus, I did go easy on him!
February 27, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Vela scored only one goal at the weekend and made an assist for another.The other player (forgot his name) who scored 2 goals for Osasuna was impressive too.
February 27, 2008 at 12:45 pm
the next season:
a) vela replaces dudu (til he comes back).
b) song replaces flamster (if he goes).
no worries!
but we do look short this season’s run in thou if ade strugles (and rvp continues to be out)…
February 27, 2008 at 12:51 pm
You see vina that’s my worry, we don’t need replacements, we need better quality additions, that’s where we’ll struggle, this year and next.
February 27, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Vina,
Those terms should never be incorporated in the same comment!
Scary thought!
February 27, 2008 at 1:06 pm
How about Djourou for Flamster? He did start in that position didnt he?
February 27, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I don’t know… he doesn’t have the pace to drive the team forward?
I don’t even want to contemplate him leaving! Its to scary a thought…!
February 27, 2008 at 1:24 pm
O’dub, 5ft 10 my arse………. maybe on Steves shoulders on top of Steve’s wheelchair !!!
February 27, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Djourou for flamster! last year i couldn’t imagine a statement like that, i still cant,
i cant believe the spuds turned down an open top bus/parade, for what is essentially the equivilant of the amsterdam/emirates cup, i had a good laugh at that last night, its ironic buy wining the LC they become even bigger losers,
February 27, 2008 at 1:31 pm
You want a piece of me Bud?!
Actually scrub that !! I’ve heard about your little soiree with Micah Richards so I’ll keep my distance thanks!!
February 27, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Would any of you have thought Flamini for Gilberto or Ade for Henry 2 years ago? Or even Senderos for Sol or Almunia for Lehmann?!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I’m back, without the attitude ego !!!!
Have had clear the air talks with Pedro off line and now feel I can return as myself !!!
RVP on the bench on Saturday http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=601417
February 27, 2008 at 1:41 pm
welcome back bud,
February 27, 2008 at 1:44 pm
All we need now is Mike making a return!
February 27, 2008 at 1:45 pm
so rumours of diaby going to inter,
February 27, 2008 at 1:45 pm
BOLLOX I SAY
February 27, 2008 at 1:46 pm
“You see vina that’s my worry, we don’t need replacements, we need better quality additions, that’s where we’ll struggle, this year and next.”
erm, we were suposed to strugle this year without big names and sc ‘better quality additions’ but still doing good, don’t we? - top of the league, out played milan - with a lots of injuries.
none of us predicted flamster to take last years best player, gilberto, out of the team, didn’t we?
the rest of the team will be stronger/older next year as well!
February 27, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Diaby signed a new 6 year contract 6 weeks ago, so cannott even buy out his contract, so Inter - Go fuck yourselves !!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 1:48 pm
exactly, there is going to be nothing but bull shit for the next 6 months, however it will keep us busy debating same,
February 27, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I think we should stop talking about Gallas, media, pundits and Edu’s injury now..Edu is coming back and that is a great news!
On media and pundits, they are a bunch of idiots and disgrace to the max!! They are the living ass proofs why England is so bad in international level..even out of EURO is a disgrace for over-rated England team.
On Gallas there are 2 views..he can be emotional and cares about Arsenal so much and another is childish and no like a true leader’s attitude..so everyone have their view but Gallas knows the best..so stop wasting time on arguing it and keep moving forward and think about winning the title which is the MOST IMPORTANT!!
So on moving forward…
I read in some blogs that says Van Persie will be on bench againts Aston Villa which is great news!. Hope Rosicky can make it too..but i guess wenger will just give them 15-20 minutes to play and play them more againts Milan. All I hope is that Wenger be more careful and not too rushing to play them because they can get injured again.
As for Flamini, he is waiting for a higher offer from Arsenal because he kniw it’s his call this time..Wenger trusted him and gave him to play ahead of Gilberto, which he did very well and became one of the most exciting and important player for Arsenal and in the league..I think Arsenal should pay him more because he have the quality and i don’t think there will be anyone better than him to fill the void when he leaves…Gattusso anyone?? ;>
So Wenger and Arsenal break your banks to keep him and get better covers for defense when the transfer window opens..hoyte n traore is not good enough for Arsenal.
And Djouruo is good but we need better ones.
Can’t wait for Vela to come back and play for Arsenal as well as he is doing now. In other areas I feel we have good quality and just need at least another striker and winger to be safe when injuries occurs, they don’t have to be world class, just 2-3 decent players to fill the void left by injuries and suspensions…plus play in Carling Cup too!!
A win againts Villa will calm things down and shut some asssshole’s mouths with their own shit.
Hope Wenger plays 4-4-2 instead of 4-5-1 which leaves Ade up alone, not effective enough and Arsenal should play more football on ground.
ARSENAL ROCKS!!!
February 27, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Contracts arent worth shit these days!!!
So far we’ve got
Cesc to Barca
Hleb to Barca
Eboue to Juve
Ade to Milan
Diaby to Inter
Anyone else?
February 27, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Thats why I am f***** off to Portugal for the summer to get away from the madness that is gonna be unbearable !!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 1:57 pm
flamini,
February 27, 2008 at 1:58 pm
yeah summers can be frustrating for gooners,
February 27, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Ah yes, Flamini!
February 27, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I dont remember it being like this before AW, not that I’m blaming him for any of this!!! But I dont remember the back 4, Paul Davis, Merse, Rocky, Wrighty or anyone else being linked to leaving every summer!
I’m not watching Sky Sports News or buying a news paper over summer, because I’ll just go fucking ballistic!!
February 27, 2008 at 2:08 pm
didn’t have t’inernet back then for rumours to be badied !!!
February 27, 2008 at 2:10 pm
head under a rock odub? you will be here where we all will compile the shite and your head will be wrecked,
maybe a bit simplistic but each departee was replaced or covered, to a degree,
February 27, 2008 at 2:10 pm
“Contracts arent worth shit these days!!!
So far we’ve got
Cesc to Barca
Hleb to Barca
Eboue to Juve
Ade to Milan
Diaby to Inter
Anyone else?”
YES!
wenger to barca
primorac to bayern
brady to ireland
the maid to buckingham palace.
February 27, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I’m fairly sure we had newspapers back then though! not the point, just rather we didnt have the fucking rumours and crap to deal with every summer. also blame fucking agents, they start of them anyway!
February 27, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Hello fellow gooners, just thot I’d join in now things have calmed down cos earlier, it really felt like Fight Club…but its all good.!
Odub made a valid point about back in the days of the Wrightys andDavis’ there were no such speculations…its all down to the media getting hungrier for bigger headlines to sell more paper and make us tune in or buy their papers…only to find out its just bull$h!t stories anyway! Classic example, after the Edurdo incident, the papers came up with such wonderful headlines like BAN HIM FOR LIFE!!..quoting wenger’s initial reaction, nothing highlighting that he immediately retracted his comments as a bit excessive.
I really do not like the media as they are full of manure and just a bunch of spineless twarts who have nothing better to do than to make up stories like Wenger putting a bid for Woodgate etc….
February 27, 2008 at 2:26 pm
t-buzz lets not forget the premium rate numbers with utter bull shit, kids ring them and are ripped off which isnt right,
February 27, 2008 at 2:27 pm
plus we have arsenal tv to keep us amused,
February 27, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Arsenal TV - Keeps you right up to date with Yesterdays news, then the day before yesterdays news, than the day before the day before……… still a pile of shit !!!!
February 27, 2008 at 2:36 pm
True Chris…I dont even bother with the arsenal tv bull, its just as bad as Setanta or santana or wthever they want to call themselves.If it was a channel that showed ALL our games live, hell yeah, i’ll be interested.but the chances of that happenening a much more slimmer than asking Osama to come out of Ur-anus and give himself up!!
February 27, 2008 at 2:41 pm
I think Arsenal TV will be good in the summer, you can watch all the pre-seasons and find out about new signings 3 weeks after the other media outlets!
Why was Wrighty never touted by Man U and other such clubs… he was as good as Andy Cole and company? He didn’t have any alcohol or gambling issues?
The same goes for Adams and the rest of the back four… all solid players, but never had any of the big boys in for them? (Big boys at the time I mean!)
February 27, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Pedro you get all that on Sopcast anyway!! The whole club TV channel thing is just another con to get fans to part with their money! All the news you need is available on the club website for a start, so you’re not getting anything extra for your money! Con!
February 27, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I’m a web nerd and I’d never heard of Sopcast till you mentioned it the other week!
I must investigate… it streams all sorts of stuff right?
February 27, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Yep! Do get some dodgy oriental porn on there as well so that’ll be Bud in his element!!!
Saw the Newcatle League game on there last month. Tops there’s a 3-5 minute delay depending on the buffering speed, but it’s not bad at all.
February 27, 2008 at 2:56 pm
FYI - Adams considered joining Man Utd after they approached him…… yee of short memories !!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Hey, Ive tried Sopcast and does air some saturday 3pm games, its just a case of locating which channel is showing what…as long as you log on say,20 minutes b4 the game.Its usually a chinese channel called Shangai Sports or another one called GD Sports ..you need to get used to the channels to know which one is showing what and theres no subscription fee, just download the software(free as well) and bobs your uncle! Does movies as well i think..
February 27, 2008 at 3:05 pm
lol. dont know about the dodgy orient porn Odub!!
February 27, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Get off my shoulders you cunt. My short arms are shakimg.
February 27, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Tony Adams’ old man used to come to watch us play and was adamant Tony should go to Man Yoo. (1988-89).
His name was Alex and he was a liitle mad.
He did tell anyone who would listen however that TA could earn 3 times his salary there.
February 27, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Pissed again I see Steve! And there’s me thinking you’ve been working!
t-buzz I’m being serious! i turned it over immediately……
February 27, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I think if we offer a player a new contract and he dont sign it,and his agent start spreding rumours about this club and that club wanting to buy him.He should be told to fuck off .man u did it to van nistleroy vernon stam and it stoped all the rumours!
February 27, 2008 at 3:13 pm
When you saw your Misses on there you couldn’t watch any more !!!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Sorry whos renting there seats out in club level,i’m a red member and its very hard to get tickets,so if anyone wants to rent their seat i’ll have it.contact mattisimo69@hotmail.com.Thanks
I dont think flamini is off,all rumours.If he is then big mistake selling diarra!Big game saturday,need that win.Also tha gallas issue,i like him,he has passion,but can be a bit pathetic at times.I think go for Eto in the summer.He would link up great with ade.We got the money!Couple signings is all we need.
February 27, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Mate my missus is not an oriental lady boy (at least she wasnt last time I checked!!)
….from what I’ve heard about you on the other hand………
February 27, 2008 at 3:19 pm
It always comes back to this…
Shame on you Grovers…
February 27, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Pedro, it’s slowed down a bit, just having a laugh
Anyway………..
He started it!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 3:21 pm
I sound about 6 years old!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 3:24 pm
haha, there is nothing wrong with talk of Lady Boys…
I did see that bud waded in with a school boy classic!
Good news about Eddy being out of hospital, what a boring few months he is going to have!
Poor fucker!
Now… i’m off to find these lady boys on sopcast…
February 27, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Odub - I’ve told Mrs Bud what you said and she said “tell Odub, go *~# ;*^* ~;:*”…… I thought it was a bit harsh personally !
February 27, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Be careful, Gary Glitter uses alias’.
February 27, 2008 at 3:26 pm
What there really is a Mrs Bud?! i thought that’s what you called your right hand mate!! Please extend my sincerest apologies to your good lady!
February 27, 2008 at 3:30 pm
There is indeed a Mrs Bud, Pedro & King Geoff even saw me marry her……. well actually, they were in the church but listening to the Arsenal on their headphones mouthing oooo & aarrrrrrr !!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 3:31 pm
There really needs to be a Grove Asbo.
February 27, 2008 at 3:39 pm
sop cast is a bit hit and miss you need a site to guide you which there is 2 of note, i wont mention them here in case le bosses get the’ump
February 27, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Get involved Chris! The amount of spamming we did to get this site up and running was criminal!
February 27, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Heard Flamster is being offered £50,000/week from his current £20,000/week. I wonder what will happen if Arsenal then offer him £45,000/week…probably crash his car while his angent relays the news to him…..
February 27, 2008 at 3:43 pm
yeah Chris dont hog!
February 27, 2008 at 3:46 pm
t-buzz he’ll probably write a book within a month saying how undervalued he felt after all he’d given to Arsenal FC!
February 27, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Titled…My Defence(in french) i suppose, Odub…?
February 27, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Yeah something like that!!
February 27, 2008 at 4:04 pm
t-buzz, I think Flamini already released a book?
http://www.flanimals.com/
Check it out, I hear the read is compelling!
February 27, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Ma défense.
February 27, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Stop showing off Steve!! First it was Spanish now French!! What next Swahili?!
February 27, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Betcha, Henry Is Grinning for a Return to Arsenal ! =D
I hope Arsene Spends His Money On A Talent Like Pato.
He’s such an awesome player! Or he could get Eto ?
February 27, 2008 at 4:18 pm
http://www.myp2p.eu
this is where you get the software about 10 types of sopcast type software, all matches in fact all sports, read how to improve quality of streaming also, xp upgrade
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/ this is the most common site a lot easier to use but the above gives all versions,there will be some learning invloved but do it before a match starts
February 27, 2008 at 4:19 pm
all versions as in multiple languges but fox sport or star is most consistant, generally martin taylor or some arsenal star yapping on
February 27, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Cheers mate.
If don’t get ticket for Saturday will give it a go. Think there’s a game on tonight, might try that on it.
February 27, 2008 at 4:25 pm
How about go to the game or if you can’t, go down your local boozer that shows Aljazera TV and always has the Arsenal game live on 4 differnt screens, or am I just blessed to have such a fine hostelry near by !!!!!!!
February 27, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Sorry Odub, Lyle just got back to me, he is taken 2 of his mates on my spares downstairs, so a no go from me this wekk hombre !
February 27, 2008 at 4:29 pm
HENRY BACK HENRY BACK HENRY BACK………
and repeat
Why oh why are we in this stituation with Flamini. Well, we know why: last season he was dispensible, this season he isn’t. Methinks Wenger was willing to let him go, and wind down Gilberto’s career and replace him with Diarra. Flamini certainly fucked all that up didn’t he.
If its money he’s motivated by then as someone suggested pay him a signing on fee. We got the cash as Wenger looks less than likely of ever spending more than 50p and a Mars bar on a player
February 27, 2008 at 4:30 pm
no probs Bud, will use Chris’s links or go down the Fox and Hound in Croydon, they’ve got dodgy Saudi staalite TV, just don’t like the look of the dodgy sorts that hang about outside the place. Will have to brave it I guess!!
February 27, 2008 at 4:34 pm
In fairness mate, they cant’ be any worse than the blokes Bud was mates with at THOF.
February 27, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Good point Steve, and we lived to tell the tale!
February 27, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Thanks chris for the alternative sites…will have a look or end up meeting Del Boy at Nags Head!!
Good one Pedro, flanimal.com
February 27, 2008 at 4:42 pm
If we started paying over the odds wages, we’ll have every prick asking for a raise or threatening to leave! Last thing we need is Song’s agent asking for 75k a week!!!
If their not happy with 50p, and a chance of immotrtality playing for by far the greatest team the world has ever seen, they can fuck right off is what i say!!!
February 27, 2008 at 4:43 pm
my locals are havens for man u fans and da pool fans, so that dictates what match is on da telly, so the interweb is where i have to go,
February 27, 2008 at 4:43 pm
I’m off, got to look sober to evaluate new houses.
Can’t see it working.
Goodnight Gooners.
February 27, 2008 at 4:45 pm
later Steve.
Chris we’ve got Palace fans to contend with! plus the odd recently converted chav twats of course!
February 27, 2008 at 4:47 pm
id take them over man u fans anyday, total cunts
February 27, 2008 at 4:49 pm
i see ac milan are on tonight might be worth a look, i take it that is the match you were speaking of, odub
February 27, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Barca V Valencia. Who’ve Milan got and where’s it on?
February 27, 2008 at 4:53 pm
I would have walked off too !!!
Losing Eduardo and losing two points to that shite team Birmingham…no wonder he walked off.
February 27, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Good night people!!
February 27, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Its been a real pleasure joining this site/blog!
February 27, 2008 at 4:55 pm
on my dodgy sites mate, catina away,
actually there is shit loads on tonight,
February 27, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Later t-buzz, welcome to Le Grove by the way!! Not that it’s my job to welcome people but there you go!
February 27, 2008 at 4:56 pm
later T(op) BUZZ,
its a laugh this site for sure, just dont fuck with the bear or so i am told
February 27, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Cool!
Will give it a whirl tonight Chris cheers.
February 27, 2008 at 4:57 pm
you never fucking welcomed me!!
February 27, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Thinking of changing my online name, t-buzz sounded far cooler than Odub and I’m a bit jealous!
February 27, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Laters t-buzz… welcome to the wonderfully fucked up world of Le Grove! haha!
February 27, 2008 at 4:59 pm
i did wonder what odub meant i must admit
February 27, 2008 at 5:00 pm
O-buzz perhaps?
Gunnersaurus was G-rex for a bit yesterday… Bud went all creative with Dave… tis the season for name changing!
February 27, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Chris get over it! No one welcomed me either!!
February 27, 2008 at 5:01 pm
except i know pedros real name,
odub sounds like some massive attack reference, bristol massive!!!
February 27, 2008 at 5:01 pm
O dub, First initial O, last name first initial O, hence O double or O dub. Now you know my name is Oswald Oliver Oakfield!!!!!! Not!
February 27, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Welcome to the wonderfully fucked up world of Le Grove… Chris and Odub…
Why is it fucked up?
In part down to you two but I wouldn’t have it any other way!
Its been a pretty busy day on the blogging front! 3 more days to go to match day…
Cesc is fired up and extremely chatty of late!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3204729,00.html
February 27, 2008 at 5:03 pm
like eminiem, nice
February 27, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Chris… my real name is Pedro… shhhhh!
February 27, 2008 at 5:05 pm
yeah something like that! Just not as deranged as he is! Know Pedro’s real name too, and couldnt figure out the nick name, nor Bud’s!
Anyway gents if you’re still online when I get home will catch up, if not until tomorrow. I am now on my way to face the joys of the Jubilee Line! Oh fucking joy!
night all.
February 27, 2008 at 5:09 pm
if you were from spain it might be!
quite a lot of comments today which is great so far away from a match, ill chat to ye later of tommorrow,
stay away from the oriental porn guys, the groans are over dubbed!!